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hesusingthespiritbomb, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

If all the apps are in React Native I feel like they are gonna have a bad time. If you’re not careful React Native apps have bad performance, and Fire TVs don’t have a lot of performance to spare.

qyron, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

What are the chances this will not produce wrong doing?

tiita,

This is the question. Nevertheless, can it be worst than Google?

qyron,

Has the potential to be as bad as…

Kushia, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android
@Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

The only thing I care about in this is if they will contribute anything back to the open source ecosystem, be it code or anything else.

wfh,

No chance. Amazon has a long history of using a ton of FOSS code on AWS and contributing fuck-all.

JokeDeity, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

LMFAO, can’t wait to see Adbuntu.

DarkDarkHouse,
@DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

But thats just a derivative of Debiad.

mateomaui, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

Absolutely hell no.

TrivialBetaState, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

The author is exited but I’m not. I am not a big fan of corporations taking the free work of FOSS developers and turning it into a proprietary dystopia.

SmoothLiquidation,

I think that having a strong public domain is good for everyone. For instance properties like Sherlock Holmes really took off once it was in the public domain and people could write spin-offs and whatnot without worry that a copyright lawyer would come along and sue them.

Linux is the same thing, Amazon using the kernel and stuff to build an OS on doesn’t take anything away from anyone else who uses Linux as a desktop or server environment, and in fact can lead to some good pass back, even if it is just that the devices are easier to root. Take a look at the Open-wrt project, where Linksys built their router on top of a Linux kernel and it led to a whole ecosystem of open routers. People went out of their way to buy a WRT-42G just with the intent of rooting it, and Linksys got their money either way.

Serinus,

If it were anyone other than Amazon or Apple.

Speaking of which, isn’t MacOS Linux based these days? How much have they contributed back? (Genuine question)

n0m4n,

A quick search confirms that MacOS is based from proprietary BSD UNIX code. It is not compatible with Linux

deur, (edited )

It’s pretty annoying you replied to someone’s nice, well thought out comment with your own bullshit. Then speculated about something you could have googled in 7 seconds max.

CeeBee,

Amazon using Linux isn’t the concern. What OP was referring to are things like their use of Elasticsearch. It’s basically Amazon’s version of embrace, extend, extinguish. It got so bad, that the devs of Elasticsearch changed their licensing as a way to fight against Amazon’s tactics.

www.elastic.co/blog/why-license-change-aws

Open source is great. But when other companies take the open source code as their own to the detriment to the original open source devs, that’s not sustainable. That behaviour will kill open source.

sevenapples,

GPLv3 fixes that

crazy4ski,

This is the correct response.

cupcakezealot, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

if it’s anything like amazon linux on ec2 i’ll pass

spark947,

What are your issues with it? Just curious - I’ve always found it to be an agreeable RHEL variant.

piracy_is_good_xdd,

note: you accidentally said the same thing twice

spark947,

Did it post twice? I think there is a bug somewhere between lemmy clients. I see it happen from time to time.

piracy_is_good_xdd,

probably, just wanted to inform you :)

spark947,

What are your issues with it? Just curious - I’ve always found it to be an agreeable RHEL variant.

Smokeydope, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android
@Smokeydope@lemmy.world avatar

Amazon can’t make TVs or ereades without filling them to the brim with ads and spyware like the greedy shits they are, I dont want to think about how screwed up their OS would be. As much as I sneer at Microsoft and windows BS as a snobby Linux user I get the impression amazon would be way worse and make Ol Gatey boy say ‘have a little class, would you?’

nik282000,
@nik282000@lemmy.ca avatar

If it runs Amazon-Linux it won’t take long for someone to build a Wamazon Linux distro with all the features and none of the crap.

AceFuzzLord,

If anything, it’ll be a thing where amazon ends up close sourcing the code/parts that they create after forking whatever OS they decide. That, or they’ll just close source the entire codebase 100% before release without any regard or repercussions.

FutileRecipe, (edited )

it won’t take long for someone to build a Wamazon Linux distro with all the features and none of the crap.

I don’t know what “features” Amazon would include that aren’t somehow directly tied into their store and ease of shopping…aka “crap.” It’s not like they would build a better video/audio driver or something. It would all just be more…advertising and analytics, probably on a cheap platform as hardware has never been their largest source of income, to include Kindles (AWS is, last I checked). Strip those two out of their build and we have essentially an untouched kernel lol, at least that’s how I see it happening.

onlinepersona, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

Curious if it’ll be opensource and mobile linux distro. If Amazon gets into the mobile linux game, the mobile phone market might change radically.

PostaL, (edited )

You seem confused. Amazon is in the business of stealing open source project in order to sell them as AWS services, not making them.

onlinepersona,

Then complaining that the license changes and gaslighting the group they steal from.

You’re right.

brax, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

Lmao, they can have fun with that. I can’t imagine it being anything decent. A mobile phone equivalent of a DVD Player OS lol

HexesofVexes,

“Equivalent of a DVD player OS” is now my go-to insult for a bad OS.

brax,

I’m honoured lol

notannpc, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

Amazon out here thinking “could you imagine how much cheap garbage we could try to sell people if we can harvest literally all of the data directly?”

xohshoo, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

The mixed blessing of GPLv2

optimal,
@optimal@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

blursing.

fury, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

Good luck getting all the developers to rewrite their apps. The only reason you had any apps was because it was based on Android so it was little to no effort to port. Going plain ol’ embedded Linux is basically the death knell of your developer story. Source: been there, had no third party apps, switched to Android

warmaster,

I’m sure they have thought of this, I wonder if they plan to use web apps, or Waydroid, or something else.

Also, there’s a chance mobile Linux could benefit from sponsorships, contributions, etc

GhostMatter, (edited )

It’s in the article. Web based stuff with REACT.

Edit: It’s REACT Native. Just read the fucking article, people.

andruid,

Oh man PWA as a replace to traditional apps have been promised for a while. On one hand the promise of write once run anywhere on the other less ability to lock down your app from your users (good for us, but not popular in the mobile space at the moment)

Phrodo_00,

Firefox did it like 10 years ago. I think it’s still going around under a different name in very low tier smart phones.

toastal,

You’re likely thinking KaiOS. They are still contributing what is required under MPL-2.0 but the rest is proprietary. KaiOS 3.x finally got off of a browser from 2016 as the base, but very few have upgraded their apps to be compatible (the tweaks were minor) & others have used it as a reminder that they were still ‘supporting’ a platform like whoever is maintaining or using that WhatsApp thing for chat.

There’s also Capyloon built from B2G, but it’s still early on & is targeting touch phones, instead of feature phones.

It would be nice to see it around IMO since it’d just be another enhancement to progressive web applications & JavaScript is a better target than Java or Swift.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

promise of write once run anywhere

PWAs are great if they’re written well, especially if they allow offline access.

There’s platforms like React Native where the apps are native on each platform (they use native UI widgets). You can’t just run the same code, but you can reuse probably 90-95% of code across platforms.

andruid,

I will have to check that out!

Auli,

Waydroid makes no sense since they are complaining people just sideload gapps.

Rustmilian,
@Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar
GustavoM, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

So basically

“Windows for freeloaders: “You are the product™” edition.”

spyjoshx,

So… Windows?

Sentau, to linux in Fedora 39 Released with GNOME 45, Linux 6.5 + More

Wasn’t fedora 38 already on linux 6.5. Why is that touted as feature of fedora 39¿?

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