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monotremata, in BotDefense is wrapping up operations : r/BotDefense

This makes me wonder how robust kbin and lemmy's tools for this sort of thing are. Anyone know?

Annoyed_Crabby,

Haven’t seen anything of this sort yet on Lemmy as well. We didn’t even have a moderator tools as of now. We might see it develop if there’s bot problem.

phoenixdigita1,

if there’s bot problem

When there is a bot problem

Madison_rogue,
@Madison_rogue@kbin.social avatar

It might be something to bring up on kbinMeta. I haven't seen anything yet regarding bot tools for either instance.

Gargleblaster, in BotDefense is wrapping up operations : r/BotDefense
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Well, Reddit doesn't need that.

I'm sure things will go swimmingly without them.

MeccAnon, in Hello

oh hello there.

BadAtNames, in There needs to be a step by step migration guide

I feel like people are overcomplicating this (& it doesn’t help that most early adopters are techies, who enjoy talking about things like federation protocols)

One doesn’t need to understand the Fediverse in order to use it. That’s like trying to understand the mechanisms of internal combustion engine because I want to drive a car. I mean, that is fun and there are not-too-esoteric scenarios where the knowledge might even be helpful, but it sure as hell isn’t necessary!

Migration was a breeze once I stopped worrying about the internal combustion engine.

FiendishFork, in Reddit demands moderators remove NSFW labels, or else

The Verges coverage of this has actually been really good. Most other media outlets that have covered it at all have had 1 or 2 that demonstrated a superficial understanding of the conflict.

The verge has been regularly keeping up with what’s going on and seem to have a pretty good grasp on the issues.

Kwik,

They're DMing mods. No one else is doing the investigative journalism on this.

I think someone at The Verge is really committed to this, and with good reason. Reddit is showing what can happen when you invest your energy into a corporate platform.

GeekSquad1992, in reddit official app
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A big thing to bear in mind is that Reddit has been around since 2005, but has only had an official app since 2016. For context, the first Facebook app came out in 2008, and while Reddit certainly wasn’t that big at the time, it’s still weird that it took so long to actually get an official app out there. More over, Reddit didn’t start from scratch. They bought up the Alien Blue 3rd party app, which was the top dog on iOS at the time, and reworked it into the official Reddit app.

The point here being that, for a very long time, 3rd party apps were the only reasonable way to browse Reddit on mobile. Even after the official app came out, Reddit themselves stated there was no intent for 3rd party apps to go away. For a lot of us, those 3rd party apps simply were Reddit on mobile.

To more directly answer you question though, I used BaconReader for 11 years on Android. BaconReader still to this day has a slew of customization and tweaking options that the official app just doesn’t have. Even simple features, like color coding the left edge of comment blocks, thereby making it much, much easier to keep track of where comment threads diverge. These things also weren’t limited to BaconReader, as most 3rd party apps came to the same conclusions: there’s pretty simple ways to improve the Reddit experience by just offering a few extra options and thinking a bit about how people use the site.

BaconReader was light, fast, barely used any data, and just worked really well. By contrast, the official app just… doesn’t feel all that well put together. The basic usability options everyone else figured out years ago aren’t present, the app is more than double the size of what BaconReader was, it positively guzzles data, and while there’s lots of updates and feature adds, none of them do much to actually enhance the experience of… you know, browsing and interacting on Reddit. For me, the official app really isn’t any better than just using a web browser on my phone, and that certainly uses less data and is less fussy, so that’s what I use now. Certainly cuts down on just endless scrolling though.

Nicenightforawalk, in BotDefense is wrapping up operations : r/BotDefense

Things are about to get real messy. It makes you realise how much free work goes into reddit and the community only for the higher ups thinking they can treat everyone like shit and make decisions purely for greed, while thinking it won’t damage communities within the site.

xc2215x, in Reddit demands moderators remove NSFW labels, or else

Spez demands complete control again, nothing new.

LeylaaLovee, in It Still Hurts 😢
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Me with Sync

livus, in BotDefense is wrapping up operations : r/BotDefense
@livus@kbin.social avatar

In January of 2023, we added an incredible 10,070 bots to our ban list

Holy crap. Reddit really is about to be overrun by bots and AI talking amongst themselves.

I hope some of the bot defense team come to the fediverse. They are cool people.

fearout, in Reddit mods fear spam overload as BotDefense leaves “antagonistic” Reddit
@fearout@kbin.social avatar

Reddit is already antagonistic af

melroy,
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Indeed. And it didn't improve very well lately..

Kolanaki, in Reddit mods fear spam overload as BotDefense leaves “antagonistic” Reddit
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

This was the first thing I assumed would happen when they announced the API pricing. A lot of spam prevention and deletion is done by bots that use the API, made by people that likely can’t pay the new exorbitant fees to keep those going.

JohnEdwa,
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Most bots actually would continue working, the free API allows for 100 requests a minute which for most is enough, and they have been manually adding exemptions for moderation bots that need more. The question is if the creators are willing to continue supporting them, for free, in the future. Plenty understandably do not.

Also currently being a moderator (of any subreddit) allows you to bypass both the the rate limit and NSFW sub ban - which itself seems to be a manual list of mostly porn subs, as most of the subs that are nsfw as a protest still work so it isn't a blanket ban.

thingsiplay,
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@JohnEdwa The bots should not even hit the limit, otherwise its a hint for any anti-bot detection. Just create lot of small bots staying low on threshold to be detected. Together with an AI, then the missing bot detection utility and some missing moderators, Reddit should become a bigger pile than it is already.

ininewcrow, in There needs to be a step by step migration guide
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

I’ve been on Lemmy and Kbin on separate accounts now for about a month and I still don’t really know what I’m doing. The same thing happened to me when I joined Reddit about 12 years ago.

I just learned as I went along. I’m going to do the same this time around.

Mozami, in Reddit mods fear spam overload as BotDefense leaves “antagonistic” Reddit
@Mozami@kbin.social avatar

Reddit was antagonistic when they removed moderators from subreddits, banned their accounts, and did everything else they possibly could to quell the protests. The behavior they're exhibiting to this day isn't new.

stopthatgirl7, in Reddit mods fear spam overload as BotDefense leaves “antagonistic” Reddit
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

Reddit is about to turn into an even bigger mess.

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

Yes, Reddit moving another step closer to Dead-Internet Theory.

There were already bots talking to bots on there. This is about to get worse. I don't think most people realised how many bots BotDefense was finding and neutralizing.

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