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foosel, in How do I learn to detect logical fallacies in a conversation?
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Maybe this helps, it has some good examples on what the various fallacies look like, and combining that knowledge with a hunch of “something here sounds fishy” is basically what I do I think.

youtu.be/Qf03U04rqGQ

C4d, in How do I learn to detect logical fallacies in a conversation?

There used to be poster you could buy / wallpaper you could download that essentially summarised this Wikipedia page:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

Otherwise it’s practice (eg critical appraisal training).

NaibofTabr, in What's the worst company ever. Period.

So many to choose from…

DuPont Chemical?

Wells Fargo?

Wal-Mart?

Coca-Cola?

My pick would be Bank of America for their illegal foreclosure practices which have ruined many families’ lives, and especially for their role in the subprime mortgage crisis which destabilized the entire global economy and which we are still trying to recover from. Everyone on the entire planet was impacted by the Great Recession.

jennwiththesea, in I want to test out how a ranked choice poll would work in the real world so I wanna make a ranked-choice poll, what questions would be good to ask here?
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Give people a top ten list (movies from the 80s, e.g.) to rank.

Roundcat, in Lemmy, what are your "missed flight" stories?
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Missed train, but eh, whatever.

The year is 2016, I'm teaching English in Japan, and the Olympics is on TV with Nigeria vs. Japan in Soccer.

I'm normally not into Scoccer or any kind of TV sport for that matter, but I caught the game early on, and Japan was neck and neck with Nigeria. For some reason I wanted to see it play out. JAPAN scores! YES! then I remember where I was and what I was doing, and my train to Sapporo had left 30 minutes ago...

Luckily I was able to schedule another train, and what time I got there didn't really matter, but I had to wait several hours for it to arrive. Japan ended up losing 5 to 4.

cwagner, in What's the benefit of using Kbin over Lemmy?
  • Personal taste, but I think the user interface is far superior to Lemmy. Even with scripts to help Lemmy, kbin still looks better.
  • Politics. Some might have issues with the political positions of the Lemmy devs, no matter if they influence the software or not
  • It doesn’t matter that much. They are both federating with each other, you can subscribe to magazines from Lemmy, and to communities from kbin.
zyratoxx,
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Kbin has a boost “retweet” function whilst lacking a “save post” function Kbin naturally shows user karma whilst here, it is counted but not shown (some clients display it)

amenotef,
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Can you connect to the same user if you switch? For example a Kbin user can use a Lemmy app like Voyager or the opposite?

cwagner,

connect to the same user

What?

And no, kbin and Lemmy both federate with each other, but are otherwise different apps, so you can’t use the same mobile app for both unless it explicitly supports both.

amenotef,
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Thanks, now I understood.

So it’s not like having a user in Lemmy.world Vs Lemmy.nl. It’s beyond that.

cwagner,

It mostly is, just not 100% ;)

TeaHands,
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Yeah both of those use the Lemmy software. Kbin is separate software. It works pretty much the same way as Lemmy in terms of there being multiple Kbin instances, they’re just running on the different software.

TheButtonJustSpins,

You can subscribe to people on Mastodon from Kbin, though, right? You can’t do that from Lemmy.

maegul,
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Yes you can follow users on kbin, which you can’t do on lemmy, and this applies to both users on mastodon/mblogs and lemmy/kbin.

However, from what I can gather, kbin is still community/magazine focused. For instance, I don’t think you can get a feed of just the posts of those that you follow, as you would on mastodon. You can select the subscribed channel and then look microblogs, which can get you close, but is really a view of all the posts from the people you follow and that have the hashtags for all of the magazines you follow (I think). THe important bit here being that kbin puts posts form mastodon/mblogs into magazines based on hashtags, where each magazine can defined what hashtags it will “scoop up”. And so “subscribed microblogs” includes all of those posts tagged with hashtags scooped up by the communities/magazines you follow.

I have no idea what kbin’s road map is for this, but for me personally, who has a mastodon account on an instance I’m rather happy with, as well as this lemmy account, it doesn’t offer something that would prompt me to migrate as a user.

One thing I’m probably missing here is whether one can more easily post to both communities/magazines and one’s mastodon followers from kbin. I don’t know enough about whether that is so and why and how far lemmy would be from achieving the same, but at this point in the fediverse’s development, it’s a not insignificant factor, as, IMO, so many are on mastodon and other microblog platforms that bridging that gap is vital to creating a sustainable and healthy ecosystem of platforms on the fediverse.

TeaHands,
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Fwiw you can post to both Lemmy communities and Mastodon at the same time, that does work pretty well, but it has to be from your Mastodon account and you tag the Lemmy community as a user. (First line of the Mastodon toot becomes the post title on Lemmy, fyi if you’re going to try it, and you can tag the community at the end it doesn’t need to be the first thing in your toot)

Not actually sure if that works the same way for Kbin magazines, I’m subscribed to plenty of them but most of them are kind of inactive so never had chance to test it. If anyone’s done the science and can report back, that would be interesting to know!

maegul,
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Yea posting from mastodon to lemmy is a nice way to join the two platforms actually.

I keep encouraging mastodon users to do it more, as they don’t have any groups and hashtags and not great IMO.

For those interested, I’ve written a little demo of doing so from mastodon, with comments/replies that provide links to the resulting lemmy post: hachyderm.io/@maegul/110483509521476095. If you think it’s helpful, feel free to share it around to anyone else you know that might be interested in posting to lemmy from mastodon.

TeaHands,
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Nice! Bookmarked for when this inevitably keeps coming up in support threads haha :D

I’ve definitely found it to be a good way to get interactions going in smaller communities so far, if the topic has a decent presence on the Mastodon side. Can’t quite decide if that’s cheating or not but some of those communities need all the help they can get!

maegul,
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Not cheating at all! It should be happening more IMO!

  • First, there’s a lot of parallel chatter and interests kept separate because people are on different platforms.
  • Second, bringing down the boundaries between instances and platforms (so that don’t all have to use screenshots all the time) is what the fediverse is about)
  • Third, using existing communities and platforms to activate new communities and platforms is supposed to a super power of the fediverse, as it makes it easier and easier to kickstart new things as the fediverse grows
  • Fourth, and getting back to the second above, the fediverse’s “killer app”, IMO, is the eventual creation of a diversity of communities and platforms that interoperate in a useful, flexible and engaging way for the user.

At the moment, I’m actually frustrated at the lack of cross platform engagement between lemmy/kbin and mastodon. A big part of it, IMO, is the simplicity of mastodon’s UI and how integrating with any other platform with a more sophisticated UI becomes difficult. Right now, for instance, mastodon has no nice way to deal with a community/magazine or a post with multiple threads of comments beneath it, as all mastodon does is see everything as a flattened stream of posts in reverse chronological order.

Right now, posting from mastodon to a community is the only way to bring these worlds together that works for users of both platforms, except for the user making the post, which is a problem.

TeaHands,
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You’ve articulated my thoughts perfectly and emboldened me not only to keep doing it, but to do it way more.

The trickiest part so far has been wording toots in such a way that they still look and read like Mastodon content, but also are in the correct format for Lemmy. Also the fact that I recently moved from an instance with an extra-long character limit to one with the default, but such is life lol.

maegul,
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Oh yea … that character limit man … once you have a decent one (>2000) you can’t go back!!

I’ve actually though of suggesting to some communities that do regular posts like star trek’s episode threads to post them from a mastodon account just to get some engagement.

It’d be cool if there was some bot that made this easier.

TeaHands,
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It’s one of those use-cases (and I understand why it’s not a thing, but still) where I’d love to have quote toots. Just being able to share the Mastodon version of a post but add a bit of text and hashtags and stuff so people on there see it and can easily interact with it. Commenting works but is a bit awkward on one side and a bit spammy on the other.

So many ways the integration could eventually go! But what we do already have is still pretty cool, just gonna keep experimenting with the best way to get people talking to each other.

Anyway consider me a recruit to your Lemmy/Mastodon crosspost revolution! 😄

maegul,
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Totally with you.

Thanks for the chat … and Awesome!

cwagner,

Yeah, I keep forgetting about that because I care about as much about Mastodon as I care about Twitter ;)

A side effect of it, that I do care about and sorely miss on Lemmy: Tags for posts. Like flairs for Reddit, but you can have multiple.

livus,
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You can subscribe to people on Mastodon from Kbin

Yeah, you can.

Also, if you look in the "microblog" section of a kbin magazine, it collects Mastodon posts that use whatever hashtags the mag mods have set for that magazine and you can interact directly with the Mastodon users.

Eg. on @worldwithoutus the microblog section has these Arctic sea ice reports in it from Mastodon, because is one of the magazine tags. It's really neat.

yukichigai,
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Has anybody made a kbin script/userstyle that has the same information density as old.reddit? One of the things that drives me nuts about most of the fediverse is that every damn site seems to love this wide spread out low information density mobile web awfulness.

PancakedWaffle,

I saved this one the other day but haven’t tried it out yet

mlmym.org

YMS,
@YMS@kbin.social avatar

That doesn't seem to work for kbin, does it?

yukichigai,
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It just gives me a 404 when I try to use it on kbin, sadly.

Anoril,

Is there good android apps fir kbin?

freamon,

From a brief look at their public API, it only seems to users to GET stuff, and not POST stuff yet, so that would limit the possibility of apps.

pgetsos,
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There is Artemis. You can apply to enter the beta on their community!

AnonymousLlama,
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The REST API is still in development. Once that gets released I'm sure app devs will spring up and build something fancy. I think Artemis is already working on an integration but that's with html scraping.

There's been a heap of work on the mobile UI/UX and I'm constantly pushing to get more mobile centric features into prod.

hariette,
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Official API is almost getting there. I'm alredy updating the app to start using it with my test instance that has it deployed. Just to get ahead of it.

AnonymousLlama,
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Sweet. Can't wait to see how it all turns out! 🦙

floofloof,

I prefer Lemmy’s UI. Good to have choices though.

OceanSoap,

Can you explain more about the politics bit? What specifically is different regarding how political discussions are handled over there?

iByteABit,
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People say that the devs are extreme left, though I haven't seen anything extreme first hand, simply being communist is a very valid opinion but I guess there's more to it. Besides politics, the project is very nice and promising, and I've had very useful feedback from the devs while trying to make a pull request for a new feature.

cwagner,

What specifically is different regarding how political discussions are handled over there?

Absolutely nothing. But the devs (or at least one, not sure), have strong political views that a lot of people take offense with. Search Lemmy & tankie if you want to know more.

Fizz, in I want to test out how a ranked choice poll would work in the real world so I wanna make a ranked-choice poll, what questions would be good to ask here?
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Favorite textures to eat.

_calm_bomb_, in What event did you miss that saved your life
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Didn’t go to a concert even though one of my frieds was the guitarist for the opening band and I was invited… The next morning I found out the club was on fire and 65 people died. Romania - Colectiv. RIP good people!

BestBouclettes, in Lemmy, what are your "missed flight" stories?

My flight had to turn around because of frost issues. 3h later we left Jersey again for London and obviously I missed my flight. The airport was going to shut down pretty soon and the company only made arrangements at the last minute for a hotel and a taxi. I took the first flight back to my country at like 6am, it was a long day afterwards.

Locuralacura, in What does an ideal world look like to you?

Meditation, study, gardening, self improvement are paid jobs. We’ve given freedom to those who are able to use it in a responsible manner. Hard labor is a 4 to 5 hour gig that we take turns doing, not because we are forced to, but because we understand the necessity and value of the work. Work is not seen as something we must do to have a house and food, but it is seen as participating in our society.

Compassion, tolerance, and freedom are primal virtues.

Personally I love work, I love the feeling of charity, I love learning how to better myself.

x4740N,
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I still disagree with the capitalism though

Locuralacura,

Sure. It’s just, communism is not an answer. It’s human nature that fucks up these systems. We need to address human nature

Noxvento, in Lemmy, what are your "missed flight" stories?
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I had to drive 2h hours to the nearest major airport. It took me over 4 hours to get there. I missed the flight by a few minutes. I waved to my Plane as it was leaving the Gate.

Next flight was 1 hour and a few hundred Euros later…

greenteadrinker, in What's your favorite restaurant chain?

It would probably be Cane’s, because I eat there a fair amount and it’s like B-tier fried chicken for an okay price. If we wanna go international, then it’s Kyochon. It’s a Korean Fried Chicken chain with 1 location in America and a bunch in Korea

Second would either be McDonalds or Dairy Queen for their McFlurry/blizzard or their super artificial ice cream. Honestly, I know there is better ice cream, but I have an Anton Ego flashback (from Ratatouille) whenever I take a bite/lick of ice cream and am reminded of the trips I took with my mom when we walked over to Dairy Queen together

NickHackman,
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Cane’s! Maybe it’s just nostalgia for me, but in College (OSU) went to Cane’s far too often on High Street.

The chicken is way better than other fast food places, fries are a carrier for the sauce and the toast is pretty good.

phareous,

The McDonalds near me hasn’t had ice cream in a year. I reported them to corporate and they had ice cream again for like two weeks until they claimed their machine was broke again

VelvetStorm,

I go to canes for their toast but their chicken is also very good. Honestly I like thier chicken more than any other place other than Chick-fil-A.

Ab_intra, in How can we improve Lemmy’s SEO so we can google “(question) lemmy” instead of relying on “(question) reddit”
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SEO takes loads of time. And since every instance is it’s own thing it takes more times to propogate this. I can only see a future where the most popular instances and communities are searchable in search engines. But I hope I’m wrong.

heimchen,

You normaly say that you have to wait about six months until google sees you.

Haui, in How much resources does Lemmy need?
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Hi there! I pretty much have the same question. Probably also a question for the selfhosted sub if it already arrived here.

I‘m thinking of hosting a lemmy instance, peertube and a minecraft server, the latter of which are very resource intensive and I‘m told I should look for „dedicated“ vcpus. Which drives the cost up considerably.

Looking at hetzner rn but 3 vpus (1 for minecraft, 1 for peertube, 1 for everything else) is quite steep imo.

Are you considering the dedicated part yet?

Good luck :)

loaf, in What event did you miss that saved your life
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Decided not to stay an extra day in D.C. to sightsee the next morning. Went back home on 9/10.

The next day, 9/11 happened. Not that it would’ve gotten me killed, but man… it was a freaky thing.

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