I tend to spend way too much on electronics. Constant PC upgrades, new disks for my NAS, better monitors, etc. I do at least allocate a monthly budget for this, but go over it sometimes…
Food delivery is another high category for me, and I’ve been trying to cut back, but it’s soooooo convenient.
That's the problem: it does not make money.
The fediverse mean that the different instances can federate, but every instance after all still has its server and its expenses just like every web service since... always. Forums, chats, socials...
So far donations or pro bono from whoever is managing an instance, but unluckily this is not sustainable if user number skyrocket.
A way would be to somehow make everything p2p but I don't even know if it's possible for what is needed.
Servers are expensive, either someone pays, or the instance closes.
As of now very few people are on the fediverse, so it's cheap.
But if we expect hundreds of millions of people to use it... expenses will skyrocket.
True, but the amount of instances will probably scale too. You can have premium instances that cost a monthly fee, ones that solicit donations, maybe ones that run ads. But you'll also always have the passion project instances being ran for a specific community out of the kindness of someone's heart.
I am already running a server for media streaming, nextcloud and minecraft. For sure i have room to add a small lemmy instance soon, not everything needs to make money or even be electricity even. But for larger instances though they must be gething some donations.
Everything needs to generate some sort of value - I imagine a lemmy instance would generate value for you in the form of learning, or maybe the sense of accomplishment from maintaining a community. That differs from how centralised social media generates value in the form of data or money which is usually at odds with the userbase.
Yes, it is. And I literally have no idea what I’m doing or what the fediverse is or how to best utilize it and I have a mastodon account but don’t use it because all of this fediverse/instance stuff stresses me out and I just want a cool community to feel like I’m a part of, not a bunch of stuff I don’t understand and I hope I can feel comfortable here with Lemmy. Oof.
Imagine there were multiple reddit websites. Reddit.com, reddit.org, reddit.social, etc. Doesn’t matter what account you have, you can see communities/subreddits across anyone of them.
That’s Lemmy.
When you make a lemmy account, it’s more like an email address. You are evolone@lemmy.ml, I am cosmicsploogedrizzle@lemmy.ml. Someone else is joeblow@beehaw.org. We can all chat and post and have a good time no matter what website/instance we post to.
That’s how users work on lemmy. Just like email. Communities on lemmy work the exact same way as users.
If all you’re interested in is that, then you can stop there and fully enjoy your time with lemmy as a reddit replacement.
The future potential and complexity comes from the next part:
The fediverse is someone said, "hey, you know how people on reddit can’t follow people on Twitter, or people on YouTube can’t subscribe to subreddits, or people on Instagram can’t leave YouTube comments? Well let’s make it so you can.
Now this isn’t perfectly implemented at the moment, and there are a lot of growing pains (it’s kinda like the wild wild West), but you can make a mastodon account (like Twitter), and follow the this lemmy community !asklemmy on it, and you’ll see all the posts and all the comments that you would otherwise see on lemmy, just in a twitter-like format.
It’s not perfect and compatibility across these decentealized apps is not perfectly impremented atm, but in the future you could theoretically have one giant interconnected web where everything from “Twitter” to “reddit” to “YouTube” to “Instagram” to whatever fediverse equivalent app are all interwoven. And if any instance of them gets a big enough head to pull something like reddit is pulling, or what Twitter has been pulling, the community can just make a new “email” on a different instance/website and continue as of nothing changed. No single website/instance can abuse their power, because another instance can be spun up any time.
You need to wear a ring to use it, and undead monsters hunting for the ring will instantly know where you are. It may or may not have a mind of its own convincing you to never part ways with it.
Lots of reddit will find themselves unwelcome in Lemmy and by various instance admins. They may make their own instances, but depending on the content that comes from them, they may even be defederated from ours.
Lemmy is community owned, community run, and community focused. There is no profit motive. There is no logic to keeping people on your instance or interacting with it who work to its detriment. Just having more people on your instance doesn't mean "one additional customer".
It's difficult to point directly to examples as their posts tend to be deleted, and deleted posts will also hide the rest of the thread. This thread had portions of its OP chronicled before it was taken down though. Basically they were complaining about everywhere they went on Lemmy their posts were deleted or they were banned for "criticism". They never directly said what their criticisms were, but I can only assume they're the types you wouldn't elaborate on when trying to get people to side with you over "censorship".
I've seen multiple others have a hard time when expressing homophobia, and getting their comments or accounts removed. When the owners of the instances can't profit off you like Reddit does, lending their resources to you is done out of kindness and goodwill, and if you step on that, there's little reason to hold back haha
They never directly said what their criticisms were, but I can only assume they're the types you wouldn't elaborate on when trying to get people to side with you over "censorship".
Which to me is funny because they know they're wrong.
They may make their own instances, but depending on the content that comes from them, they may even be defederated from ours.
It is WEIRD how much I feel like I've been here before.
My first days on the internet were around the time that both email lists, and IRC chat, were popular. IRC chat was a bit more centralized than this perhaps in management, but in many ways the concepts were similar: multiple servers, interlinked, and if the admin of one server had a problem with the admin of another, they could delink from each other. IRC, a protocol that was popular 30 years ago and has been largely dead for at least 10, was basically the OG fediverse of instant messaging.
Anyways, there's a massive amount of promise with this. It's more or less what Reddit was originally meant to be: Each team fully in charge of their own subreddit, and Reddit admins only there to make sure that each subreddit played nice with each other subreddit. In a fediverse context, it's almost exactly the same, except the responsibility for cutting off subreddits that don't play nice lies with the managers of each "subreddit" (instance).
I realize that instances are not magazines and so on, and this analogy has technologically weak comparisons, but I think the principle works.
I realize that instances are not magazines and so on, and this analogy has technologically weak comparisons, but I think the principle works.
I do think that we will start to see communities getting their own hosted instances. A light novel/manga I read has an entire instance devoted to communities about the series, and I've seen some chatter in the selfhosted community about making an instance for selfhosted/datahoarders/FOSS in general, though we'll see if that actually pans out.
I really like the model of a community of communities being in containerized into one shared, dedicated instance.
OK so I am 33M, i was addicted to drugs for my whole adult life basically up until over a year ago. I am a spiritual person, for lack of a better term. I have almost too much empathy for my own good. I love music. I play guitar and drums, write and record, for myself as therapy/meditation. I love writing poetry and im just starting to write my own story in a sort of stream of conscious style. I love all types of art, anything that captures the human spirit. I have a ton of wild stories of my escapades. I never went to college. I am a tradesman. I like to think im a good listener, who knows. I love talking to people, especially one on one. I like to think im honest, too much so. I can be quite entertaining, like a clown or jester. I am content with my life...for now. I'd also like to think I give somewhat serviceable advice, cause i Iived through a shit load of my own mistakes, and I am better for it. I practice reiki, and I believe the oneness permeating all things is malleable to the human consciousness... to an extent. I'm a fkn weirdo. Like a cat, I am entertained by very very small and seemingly meaningless things. I love thinking, learning and pushing the limits of my nervous system❤️
It's dark comedy for a tragically comic situation.
By definition, I'd say all of the jokes are in very poor taste, which is what makes them so funny. The specifics of this particular tragedy practically call out for grim comedy: Safety shmafety, Logitech, Blink 182 getting sucked into the spotlight, etc.
I do think that all the chatter about the disaster has underscored some critically important points:
Billionaires are just as stupid as everyone else. They are not exceptional people in any way.
If you're not a deep sea oceanography expert of any sort, you should keep your undersea adventures to much shallower waters.
"Hey Personal Assistant, can you give me the dirt sheet on this submarine company? I'm thinking of visiting the Titanic." Would have saved lives. Those tickets to an undersea adventure were a quarter of a million dollars per seat. I've done better due diligence buying a ukulele online than these halfwits.
I think it’s hard to just handwave and say “meme bad”. These are some of the people I’ve come across with it:
First the easy one, edgelords online want to rile people up. I personally don’t care, engaging them at all is just encouraging them. There are worse things to make memes about IMO, this is not one of them to get riled up over.
Second, people who genuinely don’t care about this and think it’s ridiculous the media covered it so much. I’m half in this boat, there are way more newsworthy things to cover than 5 people drowning in a custom made sub on a mission that they literally signed away their life to do. However,
Third, people who see this as a tragedy. The other half of me is here, at least one of the people genuinely wanted to see the Titanic. Which, maybe it’s hard for us to understand the price tag, but if you had a dream of seeing it since you were a child, wanted nothing more than to see it, and were offered it, would you? And if not, if someone offered you a trip to see what you wanted to more than anything else in the world, would you want to? Go step on the moon? It’s like if someone offered you the ability to literally go to a fictional place, then that 250k doesn’t seem so much, if that was your once in a lifetime must do once and exactly once, if you saved up for 20 years. Those are the people I mourn.
Fourth, and I think this is a small group, people who are legit sad but treat humor as a coping mechanism. I think a lot of people forget about them, they aren’t trying to make situations like this into something controversial, they just cope differently, and that’s okay.
Fifth, people who are sad for the pilot, think the CEO got what was coming to him, and think the loss of three ultra wealthy people isn't actually a loss.
I find myself making fun of the engineering, but I think it’s a defense mechanism. I’ve had a pretty strong interest in the Titanic since I was a kid, and if I were offered the opportunity to see it, I think I’d be more likely to go. And it’s scary to think I’d end up on a vessel that wasn’t designed to do the thing it advertised it can.
How much did the people who went actually know about the sub they were on? How common is it to sign a waiver about dying to go on a commercial sub?
It’s easy to laugh with hindsight, but it’s scary to think what could have happened if I were in the position to choose to go.
I'm not trying to say that the memes are bad, but I have come across some memes that literally wish some rich people to die and others that cross the line. I fully understand that people don't maybe have sympathy for those who lost their lives, and I get it. I'm not here trying to defend rich people, but wishin for anyone to die or making fun of anyone's loss of life, regarding their background, isn't morally right anymore. Most of memes aren't that harmful but some of them are in the gray. Thanks for your opinion :)
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