The way I see it, making jokes about this kind of thing is a fundamentally human reaction. People often react to grim scenarios with humor, consider all the jokes about things like wars that exist- and being trapped in a failing submarine is a pretty grim thought that people might seek to distract themselves from by twisting it into humor. I don't think joking about an event like this that resulted in deaths is the same thing as wishing for people to die, they are, after all, already dead, and uncomfortable as the thought is, the dead are not as far as we can probably know capable of taking offense to anything. There is no possible harm that jokes or anything else can do to them anymore.
Obviously I would consider it pretty rude to joke about it around someone who knew one of the deceased, since you can at least cause emotional distress to those people, but I don't see a problem with joking about it on the general internet.
Another thing to consider is that some of the jokes have been mocking the quality of the sub itself, rather than the people on board (save for the ceo I guess). If you cheap out on stuff and that decision kills people, I think it's perfectly reasonable for people to mock you over it.
We're joking about deaths all the time. The Titanic itself has been used for jokes for decades.
I think the main point of all the jokes in this case is the absurdity of the situation. Like, a bunch of ultimately inconsequential people die in admittedly somewhat weird circumstances and the media seems to go haywire. Nobody should care about this, since it's not more than a weird story for anyone not related to the people. Joking about that is just a way to put the situation into its place, so to speak.
Honestly I do get why it got so much media attention. Media companies exist to make money, to do that they need to get people's attention. Submarines, especially civilian ones that go deep like this, are rare and unusual things, so this story, while of little practical consequence to most, is very good at getting people's interest.
"News" like that is absolutely worthless information, it's just used as a tool to place ads. And for some reason people still click on it? I don't get it. Maybe humans weren't a good idea.
My initial reaction to this comment was to assume you meant you hated the human for falling for the distraction. I was worried at the generalized dehumanization in general, and how difficult that might make meaningful interaction for you in real life.
But the more I thought about it, the more I thought that hating the news corp and it's almost parasitic need to feed on human attention in order to make money wasn't just what you intended, but an interesting way of looking at it. I've had that thought before but never in a conscious way. So thank you for moving that idea into a place where I can more readily interact with it.
Eh, the fediverse is still small and growing. Even the much more popular (and, lets be honest, better in every perceivable way) lemmy community for guitars has a whopping 66 subscribers to /r/guitars 1.6 MILLION subs.
Just let things grow organically and share in other bass communities on other sites.
Put an announcement in the New Communities community as a starting point. You can post links about it in other places where potential members are. Telling people to leave where they are and go to your site is inherently rude, so you have to be careful and polite. Check the rules for wherever you post and get a feel for the place before you put up a link.
In the long run people will find you, but it can feel like a very long run. Particularly since you need content to attract people and you need people to generate content. There is a tipping point where it will suddenly take off. Just try to be patient until you get there.
This is probably the best possible time to start new communities. All of us fledditors are creating new accounts and looking for communities to join.
Similarly, Nick Zentner's lecture on the Flood Basalts of the Pacific Northwest. I can't tell you how many times I've watched this exact lecture (although all of Zentner's stuff is great):
Just start taking Adderall. If you're anything like me, you will have to remind yourself to eat more than 500 calories a day and then you will find yourself questioning how many days it has been since you even felt the need to poop.
much of it is not aimed against those people personally, but rather voiced as a reminder to others of their ilk that many of us are getting sick and tired of their continued abuses of the system and the people – the difference between setting up a guillotine in front of a parliament building versus mailing death threats to a specific individual
as long as they continue to see themselves as above humanity by virtue of nothing more than inherited wealth, as long as they claim their wealth gives them the moral high ground, when they’re willing to spend millions of our money to search for five missing rich people but won’t spend a cent searching for 750 refugees, then they deserve no tolerance from the rest of us – quid pro quo …
The problem is that everything you've said requires actually knowing the person and their actions. I see people making massive assumptions to justify their hatred.
I dunno. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes right? Don't get me wrong, it's still tragic what happened to most of those people, but I don't have much sympathy.
Ah, that's because you're a decent human being with a conscience! I guess it depends on what you consider "making fun" of them. For me, I would want to make sure I'm being respectful to those who are now grieving., but ridiculing the stupidity and hubris of some of those involved seems fair game to me.
You're making fun of dead people too. Ever made a joke about the Titanic? Or some war related joke? Or AIDS? COVID?
Are these lives somehow less important, because they died decades ago? Or because they were anonymous?
The reality is, that each day thousands of people die. And we don't care. And that's okay to a certain degree. Why are these randos above being joked about?
I’m with you. I make fun of people who walk off of cliffs while trying to get that perfect selfie. Individually, it’s very sad. But they were also excessively stupid.
Added to this is that the occupants of the sun are not, on any way, sympathetic individuals. They weren’t doing it to feed their family, or to flee oppression, or to advance scientific knowledge. They were people so rich they paid ten years of normal-people wages for a joyride to look at a ship that is the graveyard from a hundred year old tragedy. And the leader was a fake-it-till-you-make-it slimy, rich businessman who lied about his abilities and contacts and flaunted every regulation put in place to keep people safe.
I also make light of it because my job, as a licensed professional engineer, is to make sure the places people live and work are safe. Safe in a hurricane. Safe in an earthquake. Safe in a blizzard. Safe when they’re dancing with friends in a nightclub. I see people- businessmen with greater love for money i their pocket then their respect for the lives of others- try and skirt the regulations which are written in the blood of people from our past. I fucking hate people like Stockton Rush because he’s a danger to himself and others and he lies and uses his family’s amassed wealth to circumvent the very process which attempts to give everyone a fighting chance. I can be sad for the son who was rightfully scared to go, or for the explorer who may have been duped as to the crafts safety but I’m personally thrilled that Rush is no longer living on this earth and am sad that his death, in particular, may have been painless.
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