Professorozone,
  1. I found navigating overly complicated at times. The command window uses all the little archaic squiggles around the edge of the keyboard and one missing space will do you in.
  2. For me, the wifi connection always seems sketchy. I currently still have a Linux PC connected to my TV. It’s only used for surfing the net and every time we use it to exercise to a YouTube channel, I might as well walk away and do something else before it can get in. I really should change my distribution on that and see if it helps.
  3. When I got really serious about it and was having all kinds of issues the community asked for my hardware list and when I posted it, the response was, “Oh, all that stuff is too new, you have to wait for someone to write drivers for it.” I always build my own computer and I don’t like the idea of a let down when I turn it in for the first time.

There’s a lot to like about Linux and I always want to free myself from the Microsoft shackles, but every time I do, it just doesn’t work for me.

bug,

The command window uses all the little archaic squiggles around the edge of the keyboard

Are you telling me that cmd/powershell is preferable‽

Professorozone,

I’m sorry, I’m not really proficient with Linux. I probably used the wrong term. I meant where you type all the sudo commands and stuff. I’m more of a mouse user due to windows.

Skyhighatrist,

Yes, they knew that, you described it fine. They were asking if Window’s equivalent, PowerShell or CMD is preferable. Though they fail to realize that most Windows users will never need to use either of those tools under normal operation, even if they could choose to use them to simplify some tasks. The terminal in Linux is encouraged, whereas equivalent(-ish) tools in Windows are optional and really only required for Sys Admins.

bug,

Depending on your Linux distro you can manage entirely without using the terminal, there are plenty of graphical package managers. My point is that if you do need to do command line stuff then a bash terminal is much more user-friendly than the horrors of cmd or powershell!

Skyhighatrist,

Oh, I’m certainly not arguing with you. I have to use Windows for work and hate it. Been daily driving Linux for years on my own PC. I should find out if I can get WSL up and running on my work machine. I’ve been contenting myself with git bash thus far. PowerShell is at least better than CMD, but truthfully I’ve never really put the effort in to learn it properly since I very rarely need to do anything complicated on the command line in Windows.

bug,

I’d definitely recommend WSL, wasn’t to hard to set up on my own machine so unless you’ve got a locked down work machine then probably worth the effort

Skyhighatrist,

Funny thing just happened. Started working on a new project at work and in order to get properly set up I have to get WSL up and running. How convenient, and more than a little coincidental with the timing.

Professorozone,

I see. Thanks for the explanation.

chronomancer,

Your wifi issues sound like a network card with poor support in the kernel. I think hardware compatibility is one of the most understated sources of user friction in Linux. Nearly anything modern will work but only a few vendors’ network drivers are really as performant as their windows implementation.

Not much you can do as a user unless you want to become a driver developer and/or reverse engineer.

TheBig2023Meltdown,

Ltt made a video on this, they switched to Linux for some time and documented their experience as windows users

cwagner,

I kept getting errors that no one else encountered :/

But that was way over a decade ago. Nowadays, I work from home with .NET legacy software, so I need to run Windows, only the modern .NET is crossplatform. The fact that 3 of my top 10 favourite pieces of software (DirectoryOpus, EmEditor, MediaMonkey) are Windows-only doesn’t help either.

funky_rodenty,
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My “older” Matebook has a AMD Ryzen5, which is fine performance wise. Sadly there is a Bug preventing the use of nearly all powersafe states in the CPU resulting in random freezes. I try Linux distros and kernels periodically, but am amazed in how persistent and dificult this problem seems to be handeld

gist.github.com/…/876d74d030f80dc899fc58a244b72df…

I still dig linux distros and if this Laptop dies (hope not) i will try to get one which is supported more :)

eggshappedegg,

I kept spending insane amounts of time trying to make simple things work, that should work without me having to make them do so.

200cc,

Such as? Most of things work on linux too

Carter,

My PC only gets used for gaming and I was fed up of switching into Windows for every other game. I WANT to use Linux but game developers just aren’t allowing me.

aliceblossom,

You should look into VFIO. I was in the same place where I wanted to have a Linux desktop but I don’t want to dual boot to play games because that shit is CRAZY annoying. However, there’s a way to virtualize Windows inside of you Linux desktop and get 99% of your GPU’s performance due to VFIO. I think if you use Kubuntu specifically there’s a really strong guide for setting it up, although admittedly it’s not trivial. Good luck!

200cc,

Have you tried asking one of these developers why they aren't allowing you playing on linux?

altima_neo,
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When I’ve tried Linux in the past, it’s way too much work with limited selection of apps. It’s more of a toy to play around with. Learning all the command line stuff, editing text files and selling up jobs, etc. It wasn’t for me.

Mind you, last time I seriously looked at Linux was when Red hat was still free. I know things have changed since then.

Barbarian,
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Oh boy have things changed. The big headline distros of today are more stable, functional and have a much wider variety of software than 2 years ago, let alone a decade ago.

Mereo,

Yeesh. That’s like hating Windows because your experience is based on Windows 98. A lot of things has changed since then, a LOT.

BearPerson,

You have ro spend some time making things work, I don’t always have the time.

Although I’m using WSL2 with Ubuntu because of the terminal.

abbadon420,

Wsl2 is great, but why no apt?

amenotef, (edited )
@amenotef@lemmy.world avatar

These are my list of changes. I still don’t use it full-time but I use it outside working hours. I use Ubuntu 23.04 and I dual boot with windows 11:

Install gnome extensions and “dash to panel”

Install Chrome from google site (.deb package)

Same for Steam

Install mangohud sudo apt install mangohud Source: github.com/flightlessmango/MangoHud#debian-ubuntu

Disable Intel Bluetooth device so the realtek one is the only one. (Now there is a new option to also disable Intel Wifi adapter in the same word~ document).

Change default display for “Lockscreen”

Change the local time ( timedatectl set-local-rtc 1 --adjust-system-clock enabled RTC in local time.

For Ryujinx I added this “vm.max_map_count=524288” to /etc/sysctl.conf because it was saying it fixes a crash with TOTK

Disk Performance (System hanging with encryption on the SSD): Disabled the ‘no-read-workqueue" and “no-write-workqueue” sudo gedit /etc/crypttab Added “discard” “no-read-workqueue” and “no-write-workqueue” at the end of the string.Looks like this: dm_crypt-0 UUID=4170cddc-59a8-4f4e-afdb-125f70004fef none luks,discard,no-read-workqueue,no-write-workqueue sudo update-initramfs -u -k all sudo reboot

Enable OC en AMD card (Source: linuxgamingcentral.com/…/increase-power-on-amd-gp…) sudo gedit /etc/default/grub Somewhere in that file should be a GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= line, followed by a pair of quotation marks. In my case it looks like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=“quiet splash” We add amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff at the end. Example: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=“quiet splash amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff” Sudo update-grub

Install codec bluetooth AAC for Pixel Buds (codec is lighter than SBC-XQ)

Be sure that bluetooth dongle MPOW is on USB2 and no USB3 which causes interferences (at least in Linux I can suffer it, but not in Windows).

Do the tutorial to make BT devices to work with “Dual Boot” between Ubuntu and W11 without needing to re-pair them everytime (for dualsense and pixelbuds).

Enable AMD ROCM (used to run apps like SDXL).

FinallyDebunked,
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I ditched Linux after realizing my Nvidia card was just gonna sit there and rot

l3mming,

What does that mean?

Are you talking about about the lack of games on Linux? Because that makes no sense. Check out protondb.com

And if your GPU is still only lukewarm, Stable Diffusion runs better in Linux than Windows.

FinallyDebunked,
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I really don’t want to delve into details, but even when I made gpu work there was noticeable drop in performance in games compared to when I ran them under Windows

Heavybell,
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Could’ve been a long time ago. Nvidia driver support hasn’t always been great.

dmmeyournudes,

Simple compatibility and useability. It works with nothing and handles like I’m trying to have a debate over single channel walkie talkies. Does your audio interface work? Probably not. How about your keyboard software? Nope, not that either. Well surely it supports the most common GPUs for AI, gaming, and content development? No, it’s not officially supported. So when the only way you can use Linux without complications is just barebones equipment to edit flat text files or browse the internet in a web browser, you just ask yourself why bother when windows doesn’t force me to the terminal when I want to solve a simple problem.

stealth_cookies,

There is always some issue I run into that makes me angry and go back to Windows. Usually it is some random issue that breaks my installation at the most annoying time that I don’t have time to fix.

I’ve tried twice recently to mainly run Linux on my laptop (Framework) and ran into compatibility issues. First, the wireless card in my laptop worked on the installed kernel version for their recommended distro (Fedora), but when I updated the OS it upgraded to a kernel that didn’t have the Wifi driver. The other distros I tried had other hardware that didn’t work. I tried again a few months ago and that was fixed, but then I discovered that two pieces of software I need to run cannot coexist because one had graphical issues if you don’t use Wayland and the other only supports xorg. No issues running the same combination of software in Windows.

200cc,

Did you ask yourself why the wifi driver was missing?

mvee,

Quick! Deploy Xwayland before it’s too late!

mvee,

This reminds me of how I discovered that building a Linux kernel is actually super easy if you just need to add a few drivers

festus,

I suppose I can technically answer this. I do use Linux full-time now and have for several years, but prior to that I had a few false starts where I’d switch back to Windows. Usually it was because I’d encounter some technical issue I just didn’t know how to fix besides reinstalling the whole OS, or a graphics driver issue. For example, at one point when I had an NVIDIA graphics card only the newest drivers from NVIDIA’s website supported it but the ‘stable’ drivers in Ubuntu’s repo didn’t, so I had to manually install the drivers. Except then whenever the kernel was updated by Ubuntu (basically every week) my display stopped working and I’d have to switch into a TTY and manually reinstall the drivers.

Now I know how I’d fix that (setup some rule to reinstall the drivers whenever the kernel updates, which I believe is now the default anyway), or use a PPA containing the latest NVIDIA drivers, or use AMD instead - but really any kind of problem that requires the user to both diagnose and fix the issue prevents non-technical people from adopting it.

notasandwich1948,

games just don’t run as smooth and I can’t use gsync with how xorg works, also everything on windows just seems to work unlike Linux. although I’ve been running a Linux server for almost a year for myself and I’m now quite comfortable with the terminal

200cc,

99% of the games that don't run as smooth on linux are games made for money by companies who think you are stupid and a junkie.

rustyricotta,

It’s been a couple years since I tried maining Linux (Ubuntu). The state of Linux gaming was definitely less than today. Back then, Apex Legends that I played with friends didn’t support Linux yet.

Probably the main reasons for me personally is that I was dual booting from a secondary SSD, so Windows was just always there to switch to if I ran into Linux hiccups I didn’t want to deal with. Also I remember the secondary SSD was only 256gb so I ran into some problems with that.

As for what’s preventing me from switching today

  • I’ve heard Linux VR isn’t quite there yet.
  • Switching over is just a big task I don’t want to deal with right now. It could be done, but I’m currently entrenched in Windows. I want to eventually.
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