@BigBlackCockroach Have you heard of https://nostr.com/ ?
Should be of interest to you.
It's censorship resistant by design and you can get 100% censorship resistance by running your own relay (server which transfers the data between the clients).
It's a protocol, so all kinds of different applications can be implemented with it. Something like mastodon already exists.
Social media, no. A group could be, but it would require HEAVY gatekeeping to keep out disagreeable individuals. Like in real life, I imagine a smaller commune can work out but not big ones without some rulership system.
a larger group can without issue be constituted solely out of smaller groups. And the larger group behave as if the smaller groups were individuals in a smaller group.
That’s what you have with the Fediverse, you can participate in a community that’s self governing and follow their rules or set off and make your own.
I’m curious how you think removing mods would go however.
Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).
Mods a job not a hierarchy, what’s needed is good public controls to choose mods.
Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).
exactly, this is one of the core obstacles to overcome, it’s clear to everybody that (with few exceptions) nobody wants casm material online or even existing in the first place. One user or a group of them shouldn’t be allowed to curtail the freedom of the entire community by subjecting them to awful content. However if ten downvotes means your post and you are gone, then that would be used by other (less) unsavory characters, to remove anybody they dislike…
This is what my post among others is asking, how to resolve this issue, with a technical solution?
To piggy back a bit, I can block people from kbin, so I've thought about this a bit.
What if you are in an instance that has users with great memes. Someone csam person joins and you just block that person. Maybe you're a little proactive and go through comments and block any supporter that's supportive of the csam.
A month or two goes by, the memes are still good, but you talk with someone from another instance and it turns out you're on a csam instance. You had no idea because you blocked all the csam content.
Anarchism doesn’t mean chaos or everybody vs everybody. Anarchism come from the greek word for without rulers. it basically means democracy rule by the people.
Anarchism is the organization of society without any one individual having concentrated power. basically people not giving their decision power away.
Detractors of anarchism have in the past century equated anarchism with chaos to discredit it.
It only worked with primitive and small groups of people
Through recursion any organizing principle that works for a small group can be extended to work on a group of any size. Example the military: 10 soldiers are a squad and lead by a seargant and ten such squads are lead in exactly the same way by a Leftenant. In turn 10 of these companies are then ran by a commander in the exact same fashion.
Fully decentralized, no censorship at the core of the system.
You pay a moderator to send you a filtered feed that filters out illegal content.
Then you upvote/downvote what you like and don't like. A local system looks at what other people upvoted and downvoted. People who upvoted/downvoted like you gain credibility people who upvoted/downvoted opposite you gain negative credibility. Then you get shown the content with the most credibility. And a little like pagerank, the credibility propagates, so people upvoted by others with high credibility will also have high credibility.
So, anyone can post anything to any subforum.
But in principle if you upvote/downvote posts based on whether they are appropriate to that subforum, then you'll only see posts that are appropriate for every subforum, because other users who upvote/downvote like you will also downvote off topic posts.
So you end up with the internet you vote for. If you downvote everyone that disagrees with you, you'll be in an echochamber. If you upvote does who disagree with you while making a good faith effort to bring up solid points, and you'll find yourself in an internet full of interesting and varied viewpoints.
You could also create different profile depending on what mood you're in.
Maybe you feel like reading meme so you use your memes profile where you only upvote funny memes and downvote everything else.
Or you're more feeling like serious discussions and you don't want to see meme so you use your serious discussions profile.
I don't think there is a technological silver bullet, but technology might enable you to overcome your concerns. Reading other answers and your comments, one concern seems to be the inability to influence mods once they are in their post. That seems easy enough to address through community voting implemented and enforced by the software.
What your really need to do is sit down and game out the situations and actions you need, and that becomes the basis for your functional software spec.
The bigger issue is who runs the software and on what hardware? Implementing safeguards to keep server admins in line with the community would be much more difficult than mods.
The bigger issue is who runs the software and on what hardware? Implementing safeguards to keep server admins in line with the community would be much more difficult than mods.
could this maybe be adressed through the use of peer to peer technology similar to bittorrent?
I don’t think you can, or should, do away with moderators. There needs to be a way to respond to illegal and abusive material quickly, before many people have to see it and it can propagate.
But I do think a good improvement would be improved transparency in moderator decisions, and accountability. It shouldn’t be that hard to implement a way for the community to remove and appoint moderators. The harder part would probably be safeguarding this mechanisms against trolls and hijackers.
Bewarned that the mobile Firefox app is really not great.
I am a chronic tab-user (I have more than a hundred open right now. Yes I’m using pretty much all of them.) and 70% of the time when hitting the tab button it doesn’t actually scroll to the most recent tab. I have to tap it repeatedly to get to where I was.
The tab list is horribly wasteful when it comes to space and I see no way to change it.
Some sites also shit the bed completely when auto-filling from my password manager. Like full on freeze the browser or crash it entirely.
When an app opens Firefox in an embedded browser to get you to log in, it will pretty much never direct you back to the app after putting your information in. You have to tap the three dots and open it in the actual app for even a chance that it will properly redirect you.
For 2fa sometimes this doesn’t even work. I have to scan my 2fa key then quickly open it in the actual app through the menu before it finishes loading, otherwise it doesn’t redirect or gets stuck in a login loop. Fun.
The browser is fine overall, don’t get me wrong, there’s just some inconveniences that aren’t getting fixed.
This is usually more an issue of awful website design than anything else. 90% of issues I face in the FF app can be resolved by viewing the desktop site instead.
The redirect thing is definitely just Firefox being weird. It’s generally a basic redirect that triggers a return-to-app, and Firefox isn’t following the redirect properly
Next to the dropdown with sorting options, there are two icons: one is “sorting help”, the other is RSS. Copy that link into an RSS reader and you need never look at the feed again. All the “Top” (or whatever) items will get mixed up into a feed of whatever else you’re reading by RSS.
without the ability to filter or truly block anyone or anything, it'd be completely unusable anarchy. would be nice if you could actually like filter keywords, users, and instances, you know, like a real grown up adult social media website, like mastodon. one of the main things lemmy/kbin lacks is the ability to filter and truly block. until they code this in place, this is beta beta
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