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saltesc, in How long would you live if electricity for the whole world went out permanently?

Hopefully quite a while. I’m regularly in the wilderness, a holiday is 2-3 weeks off-grid. The only thing I use electricity for is lighting (torches and camp) and music/radio, powered off battery’s that are handled by solar.

I aim to extend food by fishing, which usually is week 2 after my stored meat is gone and I need more protein. I have a couple of different weighted bows, but rarely hunt as it requires extra licensing. Lots and lots and lots of expedition-level outdoor/survival gear.

Combine that all with still having a house for shelter, should be fine. Love a book and crosswords for non-electric entertainment, otherwise mountain biking or rock climbing. I won’t get bored.

A_Random_Idiot,

I think fish wouldnt be as available as you think, since tons of desperate people will use less than ethical means to harvest every edible, living thing from the river systems.

Leaving to massive ecological damage, and possibly massive contamination as well.

tallwookie,

maybe for the first few weeks but most of the population thinks fish comes from a can, and beef from the store. most people dont have the ability to live off the land - they’re just walking sacks of fertilizer

A_Random_Idiot,

I think you misjudge, considering how massively popular fishing became during covid, as one of the only hobbies you could do that was outside and solitary.

tallwookie,

perhaps. still, to do it properly you’d need a boat & the ability to preserve the fish (salting station or smoker/smokehouse).

A_Random_Idiot,

You are thinking like a fisherman, and not a throng of panicky, starving masses.

I bet most the fish wont even be cooked before being consumed.

Nor will care be given for any toxins dumped into the water to try and scoop every living organism out of it in the starved panic.

tallwookie,

oof, raw fish? most fish have parasites (which is why sushi/sashimi has to be frozen or chilled to a certain temperature). no, you’re right of course but those folks wont last long enough for it to matter.

and if, just spitballing here but lets say 75% of the population succumbs to this hypothetical disaster, then the remaining population will have significantly lower impact on the environment, giving it a chance to recover. if anything, it’d be a net gain as there’s a lot of intentional dumping of toxins right now.

SoylentBlake,

Assuming an intentional EMP sent America back to the stone age, then America would respond in kind to China, N.Korea, Iran, Pakistan and Russia. England, continental Europe, Turkey, India, Israel, Japan, S. Korea would all have been hit with the same at the same time. If somehow we all just traded queens and stopped there, or if a prolonged solar storm hit the planet repeatedly accomplishing the same, I really think your optimistic limiting global losses to 75%

After the first northern winter I would assume 90-95% of humanity is gone. Those that can hunt are the most likely to survive. Seafood increases your odds of survival by orders of magnitude, as it requires some skill, but much less caloric investment before reward. By and large we’ve lost the ability to farm without fertilizers and pesticides, many will try but one early freeze will kill off dependant communities. Climate change making weather less predictable def does not work in our favor.

After the first winter I wouldn’t be afraid of strangers. Another person is far too valuable, when you remember that there are lots of things outside that will happily kill us. We only have strength when we’re in numbers.

tallwookie,

oh I agree, if a military attack/emp were to occur we’d use our mutually assisted destruction weapon systems (military hardened bases, not susceptible to emp) & wipe them out. it’d be the literal end of the world over there.

yes, it was very optimistic. 5 to 10 percent of the current population of America (the rest of the world wouldnt matter at that point) is still 15 to 30 million people. even spread out there’s still a good chance to develop small kingdoms, and those would specialize as they always do. trade routes would organically develop over time. it’s true that we do get a lot of things from overseas but the North American continent has loads of untapped resources, it’s just cheaper to get them from somewhere else in the world right now (take coal for example over in west virginia - they’d specialize in coal extraction, processing, chemistry, industrialization).

personally, I think the climate would stabilize fairly soon after such a catastrophe, probably within just a few generations - and if not, so what? no one is going to be living in cities that are underwater anyway.

Lauchs,

Depends if you’re fishing off a river or ocean/lake. Could easily see goofs just throwing a net across an entire river.

Even lakes, I wouldn’t be sure about in the long term. Every boomer with a fishing pole is probably headed to a lake if they can…

tallwookie,

oh yeah lakes/parks that the noaa/fish&wildlife departments stock up would be emptied soon enough. a fisherman needs patience though - and as fish stocks dwindle, you have to be patient for longer and longer…

saltesc, (edited )

I think your point would be true in a high population city in a high population nation where most of it is accessible to the average person.

I live in Australia, though.

Fishing requires gear, skill, and knowledge. For much of our fish abundance the average person wouldn’t survive getting to the area or know what to do once they got there. This is why they have untouched abundance.

PhlubbaDubba, in At what point is violence on a large scale justified?

Depends on what kind of mass violence you’re thinking of.

The degree to which you can control its extent, direction, and collateral damage is the degree to which you can justify it.

An organized millitary march to capture vital infrastructure and establish defensible positions in preparation for retaliation and most likely war, quite easily justified.

An unhinged hate fueled massacre and mass raping to the point of literally smashing open panic room vaults to drag out more victims to murder and rape, well at least Lemmygrad and Hexbear will still have your back!

LaunchesKayaks, in What do you use to backup all your photos and documents, cloud or external drive or both?
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I use Google drive to backup my pics and memes because I don’t have enough to warrant getting anything bigger. I have the $2/month Google One subscription because the free one was barely too small. I can’t get rid of memes tho.

Spiralvortexisalie, in What's the most unique role model you've heard that was a green flag?

Hank Hill, I never met someone who liked him and stood for anything asinine.

Hawke, in What's a button you hate tapping or clicking accidentally?

The mute icon on a browser tab. Chancrs of wanting to select the tab: 80%, close the tab, 20%, mute 0%. If I want to do that I’ll right-click and choose from the menu.

RisingSwell, in What's a button you hate tapping or clicking accidentally?

I, because on youtube that takes me to picture in picture mode and I’ve literally never wanted it, but it’s right about k which is pause/unpause

radix,
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Why not use space for pause? I never use k.

RisingSwell,

Because I use j and L for back and forwards 10 seconds, so I might as well use k for pause and resume given its in the middle. Also often space will just scroll down the page, like how up and down arrows sometimes do volume and sometimes scroll.

kaktus,

Way to often the player is not in focus (mostly after alt tabbing) and space bar scrolls me one page down. Now I have to scroll up again and klick into the picture. Infuriates me just thinking about it.

radix,
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I did notice that sometimes it scrolled down, but it didn’t happen enough for me to notice a pattern. I can see how k can be useful then.

Presi300, in How is your part of the world doing?
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Kremlin politicians, mass russian and communist propaganda and mass migration out of the country… And somehow there is a huge job market, inflation isn’t out of control and we’ve got one of the better 5G coverages in the EU… Bulgaria’s a weird country.

Everythingispenguins,

Do you have a sense of which way your country is going to head? Back to the Kremlin or to western Europe? Is even clear what people want?

Presi300,
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It’s hard to say where the country is headed, but unfortunately a big part of the population seems to believe the Kremlin politicians and that communism will somehow magically fix the country and remove inflation and that somehow we’ll be better off without NATO, which according to them forced us to give all or military equipment to Ukraine (ignoring the fact that literally all the military equipment Bulgaria has given to Ukraine is USSR era stuff that won’t stand a chance against modern militaries, that NATO conveniently protects it’s from)… That being said the kremlins haven’t won the elections yet, so we’ll see what happens in the future…

thorbot, in What's a button you hate tapping or clicking accidentally?

I always hit the fucking emoji button instead of the number switch button, and I almost never use emojis but my brain doesn’t want me to change it

detalferous, (edited ) in What's the best response to someone who believes in hard determinism but also uses this to deny responsibility for any immoral actions they commit?

Tell them they should have factored the consequences into their predetermined behavior.

They should also understand why consistent enforcement is necessary to prevent others from making the same preordained decision.

Even if the choice is only illusory, it’s indistinguishable from free will in every other respect… So we will treat it as such

PlogLod,

“Even if the choice is only illusory, it’s indistinguishable from free will in every other respect… So we will treat it as such”

I like that!

hperrin, in What's a button you hate tapping or clicking accidentally?

Q in Minecraft. It throws whatever item you’re holding. Sometimes I’m frantic trying to fight something and I end up tossing it my sword. If it’s a zombie, they can pick it up and use it against you.

radix,
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Yeah, I got annoyed enough at this that I remapped it to ;.

sparky678348,

I’ve had drop item on P for a decade now for the same reason

SgtAStrawberry,

Nothing like throwing your upgraded diamond sword, into your mob farm. Especially if you haven’t put in the droppers.

IzzyScissor, in Can anyone recommend terrible horror films?

Each and every Final Destination movie.

Everyone dies stupidly and horribly, just sit back and wait.

pete_the_cat,

The first one was good.

charlytune, in Who's going to pay for the reconstruction of Gaza

I’d imagine that whoever pays, that US companies will already be preparing their bids for the contracts. It may even be a condition of the military support that is being provided to Israel. This is my gloomy cynical view, assuming that the Palestinians in Gaza are all wiped out or removed, and Israel asserts full control and it becomes wholly part of Israeli territory. And based on past events in Iraq etc.

GONADS125, in Can anyone recommend terrible horror films?

Dude Bro Party Massacre III and Velocipastor should satiate hunger for B movies.

FYI, there’s no Dude Bro Party Massacre 1 or 2; just 3.

pete_the_cat,

Velocipastor is amazing.

Akasazh, in What's the best response to someone who believes in hard determinism but also uses this to deny responsibility for any immoral actions they commit?
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Let him read the following dialog between God and a mortal considering determinism. It’s actually not very theistic, but merely presenting the free will problem in a logical manner.

It’s by logician Raymond Smullyan and it shows how untenable the position of extreme determinism is, without polarizing.

It’s one of the things everybody struggeling with the free will vs determinism should read.

web.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/…/godTaoist.html

philoneous,

I was preordained to not read this.

Akasazh,
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Not really, you’re just being obtuse, that’s ok.

philoneous,

It was just a joke my friend (I actually did read it).

Akasazh,
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That’s ok too

bradorsomething,

Then the seal of paradox is broken, let all weep at what shall come.

Susaga, in What's the best response to someone who believes in hard determinism but also uses this to deny responsibility for any immoral actions they commit?
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There’s an episode of the Good Place where they discuss this exact thing (well, replace “immoral” with “romantic”, but still), and I’m pretty sure the motivations are the same. They don’t actually believe in determinism as much as they claim, but they don’t want to be responsible for their actions and determinism is a good excuse they can use. You can’t use logic to get them out of this belief, because it wasn’t logic that made them believe it to begin with.

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