I’ll go first. Mine is that I can’t stand the Deadpool movies. They are self aware and self referential to an obnoxious degree. It’s like being continually reminded that I am in a movie. I swear the success of that movie has directly lead to every blockbuster having to have a joke every 30 seconds
I don’t know how you make that list. It’s wild. LOTR and Maritx 1 I’m on board solid story, solid movie, solid acting, visuals, sound design, no notes.
I don’t know how you take matrix 2 without 3, it’s just the first and second part of the same, somewhat unsatisfying conclusion to the matrix, still pretty good and they tried something that blockbuster movies rarely tried: to make you question the nature of reality.
Inception is a self masturbatory movie about the importance of movies. It’s not bad, but I don’t know how it joins the others.
Interstellar is not a great movie. The visuals are nice, but the plotline completely falls apart imo. It’s like they knew where they wanted to go, realised half way through there was no way to get there, then just used enough jargon and pseudoscience to hide the fact they drew a straight line from where they were to the conclusion. They even had to retcon stuff with janky time travel.
I’m not mad because i disagree with your list, I just don’t see what puts it together. It’s like someone saying his favorite foods are steak, sushi but no fish, apples, and fruitty toothpaste.
I made that list as examples of what i consider “good”, that’s about it
Inception is absolutely amazing, interstellar a little less so, but still, light years and universes (hehe) ahead of anything I mentioned in the highest comment
Starwars is RA Salvatore for people embarrassed about liking elves rendered into a film. All of the artistic stuff is just lifted from Kurosawa, watch those films instead they’re actually good.
Not a fan of saying people only like something because they’re delusional. You can dislike something by your own personal criteria, but other people have their own.
Star Wars and superhero movies are often liked because people enjoy the characters, the world, or simply the action and artistry.
Not understanding that other people care about different things than you do is immature.
I like both movies, but I think The Matrix has a billion times more spectacle going for it. I still think about The Thirteenth Floor regularly, but I’d rather sit down and watch The Matrix again for entertainment’s sake.
Where I wrote of MCU was Wonder Woman. I liked the movie and acting, but the story was so dumb. I called out the antagonist from the first time I saw him. The story was the same as all the MCU movies, I realized, after it:
Here’s this unstoppable bad guy, here’s the main characters getting their ass beat by the bad guy, here’s defeatist attitudes that they can never beat the bad guy, main protagonist suddenly “believes” they can beat the bad guy, beats bad guy, and roll credits. Splash of some sort of callback end-credits gush scene, and end.
Ahh yes. The one where the villain weaponized a glaring plot-hole and everyone was doomed until they figured out that they’d already covered this in a previous movie.
At least the first two Tobey McSpiderman movies were legitimately good, the problem was some studio exec went “LET’S MAKE NOTHING BUT SUPERHERO MOVIES FOR THE NEXT TWENTY-FIVE YEARS!” Sometime after the second one, I lost track of how many The Incredible Hulk movies they made, and then stopped paying attention. A very few have risen to the top since, including The Dark Knight and Deadpool, both legitimately good movies.
The last movie I saw at the theatre was Inglourious Basterds. Over the years, I’ve looked at what’s playing with dates and such, and…there’s nothing I want to see.
It is hard to separate nostalgia from any rational opinions I have about this movie, since it came out when I was a randy and uninformed 15 years old. That said it had really interesting characters, a plot which I could follow and I especially liked the village of kids from the crashed plane. It had a Lord of the Flies vibe, but with a counter-narrative to the doom and gloom theme that humans will revert to barbarism, but also not an idealized, utopian vision of what would happen. Even Bartertown had an element of social commentary. It seemed to be offering different versions of how people would organize themselves if we wiped away current civilization and social structures. Which one is better? It does not directly make a judgement, but in some sense Max is fighting for what feel “right” to him in order to redeem himself for not being able to save his family and all the terrible things he has done in the wake of the disaster to survive. Honestly Thunderdome is one of my favorite movies.
/action Takes shovel and starts digging what appears to be his own grave.
I think Fury Road has amazing visuals, cinematography, practical effects, stunts and all that. But I really did not find the story of the characters interesting.Honestly it felt more like Fast and Furious than Mad Max.
I upvoted because the first part made me laugh. But I wholeheartedly disagree. Fast and Furious is legitimately stupid. I thought fury road’s story was great. “Concubines of an abusive king in a post apocalyptic world escape his clutches and mad max helps fight off their pursuers” is as good a concept as any. It’s not citizen kane but it’s also not supposed to be. It’s an action/adventure movie with really good performances and incredible visuals. The fact that the story makes sense and has a lot of interesting moments (like Max’s PTSD or whatever those flashes of that kid were) means it can’t be compared to fast and furious.
Come back and let me know if you do. Even if you still don’t like it I’m curious how you would expand that opinion. When it comes to fury road I’ve been in an echo chamber. You’re the first person I’ve seen dislike it.
Edit: I hope at the very least you agree it’s not fast and furious though, I took that personally 😂
I went back and watched it and I see what you are saying about Furiosa and the concubines, it is a great device for setting up the chase. The chase then becomes the rest of the movie. Furiosa and Max have invincible plot armor during these chases and while I can appreciate the artistic skill in crafting these action scenes, I found sitting through them all a bit laborious.
The most interesting thing about the story to me was how Max and Furiosa went from straight up try to murder each other to becoming best buds. This happens so quickly and without a lot of explanation and to me that is a bit jarring. It seems to me the reason they dont spend more time on it is that the chase has already begun. And this to me is what keeps me from loving this this movie, they compromise on story in favor of chase and action scenes. While there is a lot to love about this movie, it is still not my favorite Mad Max movie.
Nice! I don’t disagree with most of what you said about the story except for not liking it. I really enjoy the fast paced action. I also don’t mind the story taking a back seat when the action is done as well as it is in that movie.
It’s been a few years since I’ve watched it (maybe before COVID) but to from memory I didn’t think they became best friends right away. They were trying to kill each other and the only reason why they stopped was because they were basically on equal playing fields and if they continued fighting the hoard would catch up to them without either of them escaping. They already had a common enemy, the only reason they were fighting was because Max wanted to GTFO and leave them, while Furiosa was trying to protect her homies. Once Max figured out he wouldn’t be able to drive the truck anyway and Furiosa realized Max won’t try to hurt her friends is when they started opening up more. For me, that’s plenty.
Another story centric scene I liked a lot was when they ran into the old women from Furiosa’s tribe. I forget it’s people acting in that scene, the pain and longing in Furiosa’s eyes is so tangible and realistic. Plus “badass old ladies” is such an awesome device and I think they did a really good job at executing that.
Thanks for coming back with a well thought out opinion. Like I said earlier, you’re the first person I’ve seen dislike it, but everything you said makes complete sense. I think it’s just a matter of taste and what we grew up watching. I also haven’t watched the mad max movies with Mel Gibson, I tried watching the first one after I saw fury road and I don’t think I got 20 minutes in. It didn’t even feel apocalyptic at all, like weren’t there cops😂? I’m sure it’s great but I was expecting 80s style “war boys” and something fast paced like fury road. I might go back and try again because I just realized maybe it shows the world fall apart and I am interested in seeing that. I just thought it would already be post apocalyptic and it just seemed like 80s Australia to me, my favorite thing about fury road is the world around him being so goddamn interesting and unique, never saw anything like it when it came out. And haven’t seen anyone do it better so far.
At the top of every reddit “What movie should never be remade?” thread is the LOTR trilogy. Well… I totally agree the movies are great, but not quite timeless. When I rewatched them a couple years ago for the first time in a long time I couldn’t get over the feeling that it screamed “Filmed and directed in the late 90s and early 00s!” I don’t have the film knowledge to point out exactly what it is but something about the way it is shot looks very dated to me and hasn’t aged as well, in my opinion, as everyone on the internet says it is.
I really do love the music and the art style and sets and casting too. Maybe it doesn’t need a reshoot, but a recut?
I think part of it is that movies are edited differently now. We’ve become used to much faster pacing, much denser storytelling and sweeping drone shots of everything, so older movies generally feel a bit lame now
Tbh I think it’s kind of impressive that the green screen work is the rough part of the ent scenes. Treebeard himself is still really impressive imo. I had some of the eagle scenes in mind though
The CGI is still a bit dated (although somehow The Flash topped that), but there’s far less compositing of solo actors in green rooms, due to forced perspective.
Man, hard disagree. Some of the CGI hasn’t aged especially well but those movies are technical marvels, the likes of which will never happen again because nobody will ever have the passion for the project Peter Jackson did.
CGI definitely doesn’t hold up, that troll in Mines of Moria, various Legolas shots, etc. are pretty rough. But everything else is still great.
On a side note I’ll always hate the people that decided to add all that CGI to 2011 The Thing when they had already filmed everything with practical effects. If I ever meet them IRL I will give them the most well deserved ass punch.
Side side note, still waiting for the practical effects version of 2011 The Thing to be released.
The problem is no one is ever going to put in the work and prep production effort that Jackson and his team did. It could be made better and more modern, but will it in our current environment? No, all the practical effects would be replaced by CGI, all the armor and costumes for the tons of extras would just be CGI, the extras themselves would be CGI, and it probably would be packed with meta commentary and jokes. Just look at The Hobbit compared to Lord of the Rings. It doesn’t work without all the effort and pre-production, and I don’t think we’re getting a studio to ever make that bet again. It was pure luck we got it the first time.
The original Blade Runner movie is not nearly as good as the sequel. The sequel highlights how lesser the original’s plot was. We overly praise the first one because of the Tear in the Rain Speech.
Thanks, to be clear I don’t dislike the original. It does a lot of stuff good, like world building. But 2049 is actually structured with acts and has a main character who develops throughout the film.
It’s definitely a classic, it just seems like the parts with Ford in the middle of the film doesn’t really achieve much to me. I think a version of the film around Deckard chasing just Roy Batty (and not the others) might have been better. Hauer did fantastic work every time he was on screen he should have got more.
But maybe it was an artistic choice to include Deckard hunting the other replicants as a commentary on meaningless violence.
I loved the original, when I had only seen the TV cut which doesn’t include the protagonist committing rape. I’ve seen the full version all of once and that just broke it for me.
I have the sequel on my to-watch list, but will be starting it off in a guarded manner.
I accept this. I saw these when they premiered- like lining up outside the theatre and everyone cheering, etc. That was in middle school and high school and it was a true experience at the time. So, I’ll always have a soft spot for them, but you’re basically correct.
Same with original Star Trek. I love Trek, but that shit is unwatchable. I read the novels to get the context to better enjoy TNG and after, I can’t hand the godawful sound effects and William Shatner’s smug mug. How are there so many episodes based around how “attractive” that man is?!
This is one of the things that killed the unpopular opinion subreddit, and made Reddit in general so annoying. The upvote/downvote is not an agree/disagree button, it’s for promoting valuable discussion and hiding the opposite
For these types of threads, I usually upvote things that are actually hot takes with some justification or unique insight. People that post an extremely popular decision or just insult something that a lot of people see value in get downvoted. Mostly it’s moderately common takes or unusual opinions with no elaboration, so I don’t vote on those.
I watched The Princess Bride and couldn’t understand why it gets so much love. I found it really gruesome and unfunny, and Robin Wright’s princess was bland and unlikable.
Yeah that’s a good take, it’s like a modern Fifth Element.
I have seen Chronicle, but I probably need to rewatch it. Not sure if they just had bad direction or writing, but they seemed more like siblings instead of love interests.
Without Chris Tucker, the Fifth Element would not be the same. There’s no Chris Tucker here. There’s no innocent/badass Milla Jovovich either. There’s Rihanna, but that scene was forced as well. The quick wit action hero is almost done well.
Really, carrying the movie, there’s just two smart-ass surly 20-somethings that need to bone and get it over with. That trope is LONG dead.
I saw them when they came out (and remember how I LOVED them) and rewatched the first one last year. It did not age as well as I thought it would have.
I liked the first one. Got super bored with the second. Never watched the third. I feel like the first one should have been the only one. It was a fine stand alone film.
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