What groups you are unwillingly associated with? How you handle it?
I ll start : I have been following a pretty known tech/Linux journalist, and always found he is a fun dude to listen to, with interesting tech takes
The fact that he is also very openly “american conservative” (aka, religious & weapon nut, anti abortion, etc) annoys me, but i keep those things separate. And he does keep it separate too (politics channel vs tech channel), which is a great decision.
I’m unwillingly associated with Nazis often when I disagree with people online. I deal with it by going on with my day, since there’s nothing else I can do about it.
I really enjoy the sport of shooting. I don’t hunt. I don’t have a problem with people hunting so long as they eat what they shoot, hunt responsibly, and trophy hunters can get fucked. I like guns. I also think that people should have access to them.
That immediately seems to lump me in with the psychotic idiocy popularized by gun owners today. I despise those people. I have incredibly strong opinions about who should have access to guns, how guns should be stored, and how gun ownership should be licensed, insured, and actually monitored. The way the second amendment has been so woefully and foolishly written as to be vague and completely anachronistic by today’s standards it is doing far more damage than good, and the people that claim it’s to protect themselves from government are the very authoritarians trying to overthrow it.
So yeah, it sucks to want to participate in a sport full of asinine wingnuts or be associated with them. So I keep my mouth shut about owning guns.
I live in Singapore, and because of that, I’m associated with Singaporeans.
I hate it because they’re generally spoilt af, complaining all the time. They also tend to make fools of themselves overseas by being noisy and difficult. We’re probably like this because Singapore is run in a really great way, and when compared to other countries, things may be slower or just done differently.
I try my best not to be like that and I will actively avoid Singaporeans if I see them overseas (you can tell by their accent and loud voices).
And how much they say “La” in a passive aggressive way. Man, I’m tolerant to it because I don’t know the culture that well, but it still annoys the shit out of me.
To be fair, we use lah in almost every context, not just passive aggressiveness. But yeah singaporeans tend to be passive aggressive af, now that you mention it.
Yeah someone tried to explain le, lah, leh to me one time but I didn’t understand the nuance. They all sound kinda whiny to me tbh. Not trying to sound like an asshole, I don’t look negatively on people who use it, but for some reason it bothers me. I guess I just don’t get it lol
Yes I’ve noticed it from Indonesians as well, but less so. Anyways I just chalk it up to me being an ignorant foreigner. It rubs me the wrong way for whatever reason, but I’m sure it’s just because I don’t understand it. I don’t let it affect my judgement of people. Thanks for your candid responses
The PMC. I’m a professional worker from a rural upbringing and a lot of my coworkers came from wealthier backgrounds with highly educated parents. I don’t really do anything to “handle it” it’s just noticeable cultural differences.
A bit tongue in cheek reference but professional-managerial class. Essentially people who work for a living but make above average salaries and don’t really associate, and/or consider themselves superior to, more industrial or blue collar working class. Working class but adopt more bourgeoise values.
None. I have self-respect. For example. My own MAGA worshipping Trump-humping father demanded that I apologize for telling him that America sucks (in regards to healthcare). I was told to either apologize or to never talk again.
I’m a large, unpleasant looking man living in a red state who has a pickup truck, and a harley. I’m married to a methodist lay speaker. I have a few firearms.
So naturally I must be the biggest trump supporting, red-hat wearing, religious conservative twatwaffle in existence, there is no other option.
As a result, the actual redhat cockwombles I work with think I’m going to be OK with their racist comments, and are shocked when I’m not. The thing that helps me with these guys is the fact that they are having to work from prints that have my initials on them so they can whine about the LiBuRl all they want, and I’ll still be helping them get their jobs done.
The traits they are assuming make me One of Them™ are just incidental things. I have a battered old truck because my wife and I have either a large garden or a small farm, depending on how you look at it. A Honda Civic won’t carry the stuff I need. (Neither will a van) I have a harley because the local motorcycle dealers are pretty terrible tp deal with, but the harley dealer is nice, helpful, and act like they want to sell a bike. I’m large and unpleasant because of genetics. And I have firearms because for most of my adult life I have lived somewhere that has an hour’s response time for law enforcement, and I’ve had to defend myself in the past. None of these things made me hate any particular group of people.
Neckbeards, because I fit some of the stereotypes.
I’m interested in roleplaying and videogames, so people assume I’m one of those gatekeeping basement dwellers that mock “girl gamers” and play WoW and weird hentai games 23 hours a day. Honestly, I couldn’t care less about what other players have in their pants or which games they like as long as everyone is having fun.
I own two swords, so people assume I’m one of those “leave the multibillion dollar company alone” fedora-wearing m’lady incels who pose with their katanas for sh*tty profile pics and think they look like ninjas or something. The thing is, me and two buddies did show fights for medieval faires for a couple of years, so the weapons aren’t just decoration / dumb tokens to make myself feel cool. Granted, the “fights” were more or less scripted, but it still had to look convincing enough to entertain the masses.
It’s especially annoying when actual neckbeards think I’m “one of them” and are then surprised that I don’t share any of their cringey, prejudice-laden, condescending world views.
Indeed. Oftentimes they kinda resolve their cognitive dissonance by saying ‘Ah, you got a fiance, you have to say that wink’. As if there is no other logical explanation.
I find myself agreeing with the libertarian socialist school of thought, which means in debates I get accused of a lot of opinions I don’t agree with, because I disagree with things using socialist language or libertarian points.
The Russians. I’m against war, not living in Russia, working and paying taxes elsewhere. It was hard to make peace with myself, as you have to rip the vision of your country into two pieces - the first is the culture, places where you lived, your friends. The second is an insane killing machine called “the state”. Have to learn not to associate yourself with that second half.
The support from many people, from here and from other countries, including a couple of Ukrainian friends (takes time to prove that you’re “normal”), really helped.
Sorry for everything, I hope the old man will die soon.
I’m very much into guns, have 35-45 or so, depending on your definition of “gun”. I particularly like buying old crappy ones and fixing them up. They aren’t “safe queens” either, I shoot every one of them at times, and shoot almost every weekend at my camp in the swamp.
I am liberal in about every other aspect and given the GOP’s behavior since Obama took office, I’m voting straight ticket D till the day I die. I loathe being lumped in with the right-wingers and their attitudes.
Hello fellow liberal gun owner! It’s good to see more of us out here. It fucking annoys me to no end whenever we get lumped together with that nonsense.
I own a gun and I strongly think that you SHOULD be able to own one IF you meet the qualifications. But I think those qualifications should be more strict and the penalty for being unsafe with your guns should be to lose them. Forever.
Violent crimes in the past including domestic? Say bye bye to your guns. Can’t pass a background check? No exceptions.
Guns should be accessible to those who can pass strict check and removed permanently for behavior that is indicative of a potential problems.
But because I support the owning of guns I’m assumed to be one of … them. Ugh. Yucks.
I handle it by showing my disgust and trying to explain that just because I support something doesn’t mean that I fall in on a survey.
The entire gun “culture” is just toxic as fuck. To the point that if we ever do lose the right it will be their unwillingness to bend that causes it.
I wish the Democrats in the US were less willfully ignorant about firearms so they’d pass less stupid and ineffectual legislation out of fear and/or pandering.
Every time California passes an “assault weapons ban” that targets a specific ergonomic feature (pistol grips, removable magazines, what the hell ever they’re focusing on now) and gun manufacturers find a work around before the bill even comes into effect, I just roll my eyes.
At this point I’m forced to assume it’s purely performative.
I too wish they could pass real gun control legislation that would result in less weapons on the streets and in people’s homes.
Unfortunately, all we can ever get passed are bs laws that gun nuts won’t bother to fight against, considering the massive amounts of political spending on “single-issue” voters that care more about being able to shoot their neighbors than they care about living under a democratic-elected government.
I mean, who needs functioning institutions when you have a fuckin gun?
Can’t they just ban auto/semi-auto? Or if those aren’t strict categories, define them, eg. “cannot shoot more than x bullets / second”? That one would likely be too broad but you get the idea.
ForgottenWeapons and InRangeTV are the only channels I still subscribe to, because they’re not constantly bitching about gun laws and parroting conservative talking points.
The one time I’ve actually seen Ian make a statement about pending legislation, and he’s coming at it from a very respectable angle, saying basically “this law is poorly worded and over-inclusive and I think it’s going to cause some serious issues”: youtube.com/shorts/aMHGtM051jc?si=nvB2q2vktbwBuUL…
I mean, it’s exactly what I was talking about. Politicians pushing terrible firearms legislation out of willful ignorance.
All it does is annoy and inconvenience lawful gun owners, and push the center-right further towards the MAGA crowd.
It doesn’t matter. If liberals and centrists did nothing, they’d just fabricate that they were coming for guns. It’s a cult. Facts and Reason don’t come into it.
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