You must have read the instance wrong of who you’re replying to. What’s with all of this I don’t believe anything being said anywhere crap… why even go on the internet and talk to anybody? You might as well be role playing in a chat some where.
With the major news going on right now there’s tons of people that don’t believe anything being said. Even if there’s photos and videos showing what they’re saying they don’t believe. It’s mind boggling.
What evidence do you need of anything sitting at a keyboard and not doing anything about anything though? I just don’t understand any of the arguments going on between people that aren’t going to do anything about anything other than typing on a damn keyboard.
Up untill Davel, every single user I got a reply from relating to stuff I said on that thread was either a Hexbear or Lemmygrad user and every user since Davel has been aswell.
What you said was that they were “coming after you”
I’m just making the point of stating that my conversation with you has not been “aggressive” nor has it mentioned the topic at hand. And I’m from hexbear.
I just mean that usually when I say something controversial, the people arguing against that are from all over the place, but in this case the opposition seems to be coming from these two instances almost exclusively. Even in this thread, that’s been posted on lemmy.ml there’s still a disproportionate amount of Hexbear users replying. I can’t say for certain, but it sure feels like they’re looking for me rather than just stumbling across this post.
Lol I browse All, I see a thread with lots of comments, I drop in. Nobody’s looking for you, get over yourself. Take the L. Sit out your 30 days and ply your debate pervert shit somewhere else in the meantime, the Internet is a huge place.
I’m not sure what that community would even be. I’m not interested about being surrounded by bunch of yes-men. I want my community to call me out on my bullsht because I’m going to do the same for them.
Well not really. Mostly people are just being mean and/or saying I’m wrong but no one is trying to change my mind. When I made the first post that got me banned I had just woken up and had only skimmed thru the news, but the more time passes and I look into it the more comfortable I feel with my original conclusion. At the moment it seems almost certain that it indeed was a malfuncioning Hamas rocket shot from Gaza strip and there’s plenty video evidence to back that up.
Proof you haven’t even done the first iota of investigation into the federations you talk the MOST shit about; as if you did, you’d see half the time we’re locking horns with each other over who’s got the materially correct line. No investigation, no right to speech.
We’re active in political threads since we’re both explicitly leftist instances (grad is ML, Hexbear is leftist of different stripes). Hexbear doesn’t have down votes so if we see something we disagree with, we say something. There’s not really a ‘downvote and move on’ mentality, so you’re likely to get multiple users replying to a post.
Israel is conducting a bombing campaign against Gaza
Israel has threatened to attack hospitals
Israel has previously bombed hospitals
Israel has previously bombed this exact hospital
The audio and visual characteristics of the bomb and the damage caused (captured by multiple, independent observers) match with a JDAM guided bomb, which Israel has already used
Israeli sources first claimed the hospital was a Hamas base or had Hamas tunnels or arms caches, before rapidly rolling back their position to "we didn’t do it"
It is clearly in Israel’s interest to kill Palestinians and destroy Palestinian infrastructure, especially medical services and supplies, because they are conducting a genocide
The argument for it being Hamas:
Israel says it was
Reddit, or rather reddit-logo, is controlled by the US security state, so r/combatfootage - which banned all combat footage from Palestinian viewpoints - is not a reliable source. The idea that a ‘rocket piece’ could accidentally fall on a hospital and kill 500 people (a number reported by a first-hand MSF witness) is laughably absurd. If a Hamas rocket could cause this kind of damage, Tel Aviv would look like the surface of the fucking moon. It was OBVIOUSLY another genocidal act by the entity continuously and overtly engaged in genocidal acts. To think otherwise requires you to want to fall for their propaganda. No one in full possession of their faculties looking at the facts dispassionately could possibly conclude it was anything else.
If it was JDAM then where are the pictures of the leveled hospital/crater? Where are the pictures of 500 dead people? That’s A-grade propaganda material for Hamas so why isn’t it all over the internet? All I’m seeing is this picture which judging by the fence and tree is from outside aswell as this with a matching fence, couple burnt cars and some damaged roofing tiles. Ofcourse there’s also the video posted by IDF of aerial footage which matches that picture from the parking lot and shows a very much intanct hospital building.
EDIT: Here’s a video from that same parking lot. I wonder why they aren’t filmin the leveled hospital instead.
If it makes you feel better. I also reserve judgement until more information is out. The counter arguments as to why it wouldn’t be Israel does make sense to me. Lack of crater. Hospital walls intact. Hamas were firing rockets over the hospital. And the death figure is reported by Hamas. Most likely incredibly inflated.
Since when was recognized terror organisations reliable sources?
This seems straightforward. You posted your opinion (which is inherently true - no one but you has access to your inner mind, so we must take it on faith you are honestly presenting your opinion to us) and the mod misrepresented this as fact so it could be labeled as misinfo.
But I doubt posting here will fix that. Mostly what you seem to have managed is to attract genocide supporters from Hexbear to troll you. As I understand it, the best way you can handle this on Lemmy is to simply find similar threads on a different instance to engage in discourse in.
‘Genocide supporters’ you crackers have supported Israel’s commission of apartheid for 30+ YEARS but let someone pipe up that it’s wrong and they’re the genocide supporter. Please go fly yourself by your ankles; you don’t deserve your humanity.
There unfortunately is no system in Lemmy (atm) to do this smoothly. When I was on lemmy.world, I used their system they had set up separately and that worked well, but for most instances, the only process to do something like that is to DM an admin directly, which will of course have greatly varied results, and that’s if the admin isn’t supportive of the abusive mod in the first place.
Lemmy isn't a place for debates and arguments. If you don't follow the direction of the topic, don't bother inserting yourself into the conversation.
You need to be nice and supportive of whatever is posted, else you're going to have a bad time.
Read their code of conduct and you'll find that it's a moderator's discretion to ban anyone they believe is disruptive, regardless of the rules.
So unless a moderator goes on a deranged banning binge, you're automatically in the wrong.
If you can't accept that, i suggest you make your own instance, with blackjack and hookers.
From their point of view, only you think there's something to be solved.
A major point of federization is not having to deal with the undesirable rabble. To have your own little slice of the internet where everybody gets along.
You don't get along, so you don't belong. Instead, you are very welcome to find or make an instance where you do belong and can engage in conversations freely.
Lemmy's solution is to make the problem go away, which is why in its eyes, there is nothing to solve.
I think the idea that this is a negative but to me it is not. If a domain or magazine is run poorly then folks then I don't want to go to it. I just want the individual ability to block at all levels working well and would love it both ways. I learned my lesson from mmo's. A completely horrible cesspit of a chat can become pretty decent with just a dozen or so blocks. People who block everyone on a whim. Well thats great as I doubt their discourse is going to be beneficial. folks that don't ban even though someones pushing the line will be rewareded with a richer experience.
Best to block all Lemmy.ml communities, as it is full of tankies, including the mods.
This specific one has mods who let reported tankie disinformation in form of both comments & threads stay, as well as insults towards other users by the same individuals. I tried reporting rule breaking comments & threads for a few weeks, monitored if they'd do anything, but nothing happened and the same users continued doing the same spiel in other threads.
If Lemmy.ml isn't distancing itself from Lemmygrad and Hexbear and does enforce their rules selectively, then there's no reason to treat them the same as those other extremist communities.
It’s a bit more complicated than that. It may very well be the case for political communities, I don’t really know. But for computer-related stuff and my niche interests, the federation between those instances has (only) benefit to it. So I don’t really support that conclusion in general. But I’m in support of pushing down on toxic behaviour. And not everything on Lemmy is what I’d like it to be.
If you scroll through the community bans of World News@lemmy.ml, you’ll see there’s a mod going crazy handing out months long bans for having the wrong opinion on the current conflict. Mods aren’t beholden to anyone but themselves, so if that’s how they want to mod then that’s how it’s going to be. Thankfully, Lemmy has hundreds of communities discussing the conflict so you might find better mods in one of those communities.
I don’t mind a disagreement. Not at all. Infact I enjoy a good debate as long as both parties are doing it in good faith. This thread isn’t about that.
My suspicion lies with the entity which has air supremacy and has been dropping shitloads of bombs already. It’s not surprising that people like you will contort into any position which suits your interests.
Yesterday, at 7:00 PM, Al Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza, which is our partner in the Diagnostic Cancer Treatment Center, was hit by two Israeli rockets. Fortunately, the extent of the damage was limited.
Today, the hospital has received orders from Israeli authorities to evacuate the facility, including patients, staff, and 3,000 Gazan people who have sought shelter within the hospital’s premises.
We call the international community and all humanitarian organizations to take action to prevent the evacuation orders for Al Ahli Arab Hospital and the other 22 hospital, as this action poses a significant risk to the lives of numerous patients.
here is a 2014 article regarding Israel bombing hospitals
The third floor of the Al-Aqsa hospital in Deir al-Balah was struck by Israeli shelling, killing four people and wounding dozens, according to the Gaza Ministry of Health spokesperson.
“Today’s attack on the Al-Aqsa hospital is the latest in a series of attacks on and near medical facilities in Gaza, which have been struggling to cope with thousands of injured people since the Israeli offensive began on 8 July,” said Philip Luther, Director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Amnesty International.
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