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Denjin, in Modern art

“I don’t understand it, therefore I don’t like it.”

0x4E4F, (edited )
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What is there to understand… a bunch of people doing weird shit they like to call art. If that’s the case, each of us does art every day, we just don’t film ourselves doing it and call it that. Shit, film it, put some interesting music as the shit exits your anus, post it, tadaaaa, art.

frankenswine,

it’s always hard to find intended meaning in excerpts from performance art. does art have to be experts doing non-weird things in your opinion?

nice post btw!

0x4E4F, (edited )
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To be honest, I mostly just don’t get extreme performace art, like in the clip. I can listen to “extreme” (as in non-mainstream) music and watch “extreme” movies (like, let’s say Irreversible) and plays, but unless there is some dialogue… I’m sorry but, I don’t get it. Some performance art is cool and I get what they’re trying to say, but these extreme cases, no, I just don’t. Like the guy in the mummy outfit screaming. I bet that’s all there is in the performance… or a midget starts runnig half naked, also in a mummy costume (from top to half), or something like that… I mean, they’re predictable if you ask me. The point is to shock, nothing else IMO. I don’t think there is a point. The artist wants us to think there is one, so we wreck our brains “what was the artist trying to say 🤔”, while in reality, he just did some extreme shit, left the audience 😱 and them thinking “wow, he’s so artistic, he’s really good, the message was so strong” but when you ask those same people what the message was, they start studdering 😒. It’s all shenanagins, the artist stays all the wisers by not clearly stating what the message he was trying to say was (because there is none), the audience pretends like they understood what he was trying to say, but in fact didn’t understand shit cuz… well, there is nothing to understand.

frankenswine,

how can you know these things when you only know a couple of seconds? that’s like saying you know a movie from having seen some short sequences of action scenes.

art isn’t how it looks but rather how it makes you feel, no? framing art (like in this video) robs the original art of their intention and creates a new perception on it.

kinda like saying rock music is bad because you heard of ozzy munching a bat or seeing marilyn manson harm himself on stage

0x4E4F, (edited )
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I have seen other performance artists, the clip is not the first time I encounter performance art.

It makes me feel like I’m stupid for not getting what the artist was trying to say. There is nothing to get. I bet if you ask the artists to explain it, he will, but it’ll either make no sense, or he’ll say that he saw it in a dream or something like that.

Ozzy does stupid things because he’s Ozzy. Manson is a performance artist as well. That doesn’t mean his music is bad, but I would never go to a Manson concert. The Resident Evil acore was pretty good actually.

frankenswine,

Well, there is bad art, of course. Or maybe you’re just not into it (that much).

0x4E4F, (edited )
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I am into art, just not performance art, and especially not performance art that is just done for the sake of art progressing, or whatever the reason of the artist might be to do some stupid unrelated things and call that art.

Denjin,

You’ve kind of hit the nail on the head, art is by definition anything the observer and/or the creator calls art and it creates some sort of emotional response in the observer.

By all means do a shit, film it and book somewhere to show it to an audience and you have indeed created art.

I agree that without any context, most of these clips look like ridiculous bullshit, but without understanding what the intention of the creator is and what the audience are getting from something you might as well just post clips of Star Wars without context and say “look how stupid this is LOL”

0x4E4F, (edited )
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You’ve kind of hit the nail on the head, art is by definition anything the observer and/or the creator calls art and it creates some sort of emotional response in the observer.

Yeah it does, it makes me wanna look surprised and walk away. Does that make it art? No, at least not in my mind.

By all means do a shit, film it and book somewhere to show it to an audience and you have indeed created art.

See, this is why I stopped listening to alternative music. Cuz everyone just copy/pasted everyone else in the end, not to mention artists and bands, as old as time, just doing what they’re doing for the income, drugs and nothing else. They really don’t care about the music any more, some have even admitted that in public. So, am I supposed to listen to 100 albums on the off chance that I get to hear that one artists or band that actually made something new, interesting, not shitty, and different? No, thank you, I’m way past that point.

I agree that without any context, most of these clips look like ridiculous bullshit, but without understanding what the intention of the creator is and what the audience are getting from something you might as well just post clips of Star Wars without context and say “look how stupid this is LOL”

You know, I once went to this play called Solaris (there were movies made after the play as well, one English one Russian). Anyway, I was really excited because I really liked the movies (mainly the US version, the Russian one was somewhat boring, but watchable) and I was so pumped, I bought a ticket 3 weeks ahead.

So I go in and sit, the play starts and… it’s 5 hours long, 2 pauses in between… OK, I was expecting that, as long as it’s interesting, it doesn’t matter, right? And the play starts and it’s just… an hour and a half of slow motion movements, no dialogue, nothing… OK, I will be patient 😤. Oh, finally, some doaloge 🥳. 5 minutes, even that was in almost slow motion. Another hour passes with shit like in the clip, just people doing things that make no sense at all. That’s it. I got up, walked away from the theater. Those 3 hours have to be one of the most pointlessly spent ones in my entire life.

My point is, I knew the context of the movies, I knew what they were about and I saw none of that in the play. What does that say about the director of the play? Mind you, I wasn’t the only one leaving, the theater was mostly full, after an hour and a half there were like 30 people left, I was amongst the last ones to leave. How stupid can you be to think that 5 hours of that shit will keep people interested and trying to “decode” “what was the artists trying to say with this or that”. It can be interesting if it was a dose of it, like 15 minutes, but 5 hours of that shut, fuck no.

BTW, I bet you whatever ammount you like, I post a short Star Wars clip and screen it to people that have never seen Star Wars… 90% of people will understand what that scene was trying to say. It’s Star Wars, not Fight Club.

sentient_loom, in Me IRL
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What else would you eat?

0x4E4F,
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Exactly 😂.

GoodandPlenty, in Me IRL

“…and NO dessert until you eat all your broccoli!!”

0x4E4F, (edited )
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There was no dessert in my home. We ate soldier style, eat, get the dishes, go back to whatever it is we were doing.

Kolanaki, (edited ) in Me IRL
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My mom’s cooking fucking sucked so I grew up in a home where I would eat at a friend’s house or go hungry.

0x4E4F,
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My mom’s cooking sucked as well, but it was either that or you eat nothing at all. It was healthy, but it didn’t taste good. I didn’t wanna insult her, so I ate it. Plus, it was either that or you go hungry.

AA5B, in I'll just be over here setting a new record

Every day for a full month!?!?!?

Agent641,

Duty calls

Gingernate,

Found the american

AA5B,

Yeah, I’ll take this one. The funny thing is I saw this at the same time as a similar reply for an entirely different thread: I guess only knowing English is also an American stereotype, just like a certain date format

june, in Uncanny

I thought she was holding a hedgehog for a second

MacNCheezus,
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You’re not the first, but upon closer inspection I think it might be some sort of fur accessory.

june, (edited )

Yea I think it’s a purse or a jacket

MacNCheezus,
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Certainly far more likely than a hedgehog.

piracysails,

She is not?

june,

She is not

MrFunnyMoustache, in Fuck them right in the...?

I don’t understand the joke… send help.

FangedWyvern42,
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MrFunnyMoustache,

Thanks, that’s pretty funny.

InfiniWheel, (edited )

Couple of years ago the use of slang that consisted of making portmanteaus of the word “pussy” (using the suffix “-ussy”, also word of the year 2022 IIRC) with other words rose. At first it was mostly for implying said thing was used as a pussy (thrussy: throat pussy, bussy: boy pussy) but then it evolved into a comedic way to refer to “hole of said thing” (chussy: hole in the chest as in pectum excavatum).

In this case, this vehicle is called eBussy because it’s a tiny electric bus. But due to the slang, it can also be interpreted as “electronic boy pussy (as in a guy’s anus, for gay sex)”.

MrFunnyMoustache,

Oh, that’s hilarious. Thank you very much.

herrwoland, in Fuck them right in the...?
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So how many people fit inside your ebussy?

Track_Shovel,
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At least 7

anarchy79,
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At once, or consecutively?

jballs,
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That’ll stretch you out like a turkey on Thanksgiving.

anarchy79,
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laoul

JusticeForPorygon, in Modern art
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I’m pretty sure I could just go to a modern art museum while trippin balls and cause a scene and I bet people would put cash in my head thinking it’s a show.

0x4E4F,
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Don’t forget to piss a little on them, that’ll get them to throw extra money.

hex_m_hell,

The difference between you and these people is that they’re not afraid to actually do it.

JusticeForPorygon,
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Is that a challenge?

hex_m_hell,

Oh yeah, totally! Just make sure to record it or it’s not art.

ElderWendigo,

If you don’t make a record it’s not art or science, it’s just masturbation.

MimicJar, in Modern art
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I don’t get most of it, but I vibe with paper towel lady at 1:06.

Also cucumber lad at 1:24 has childhood bordem that I can relate to.

Butterpaderp,

youtu.be/irW6MH3YWqE?si=cY4KM3Jr7Wo_FYZ_ more of cucumber guy, def a weird dude who’s bored

iheartneopets,

I also liked the paper towel one for some reason. Big “I’m bored at home” vibes, with its use of household implements in the art piece (fly swatter, laundry hamper, etc). Rolling out all the paper towels like that seems like a pretty fun and interesting thing to do if I ever had loads of time on my hands.

Honytawk, in Uncanny

She shouldn’t be calling herself a hoe though.

MacNCheezus,
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What do you suggest instead, Idaescort perhaps? Idacourtesan? Idaprostitute? Idaworkinggirl?

IndiBrony, (edited )
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Yeah but she’s not a ho, she da ho!

Viking_Hippie,

She isn’t. The state was named by her bitter ex.

Cowbee, in He was like a brother to me...

I’m joining the Cold War, on the side of the Cold!

SuckMyWang,

I’m with you. Everyone else has been brainwashed by corporate propaganda to believe cold temperatures are the enemy.

Zugyuk, in Is that your boyfriend?

Actually it’s closer to 900… Kilos

Blyfh,

It’s over 900!!

sentient_loom, in 🎵that's life🎵
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Serious note: make some effort to find a career you actually enjoy so you’re not just waiting for every week to end. Basically waiting to die.

toomanypancakes,
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Fuck, now you tell me

sentient_loom,
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I just recently figured it out too!

SubArcticTundra,
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Your life is killing you

Zoboomafoo,

My alternative advice is to find something you’re passionate about to do on the weekdays when you aren’t working.

sentient_loom,
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That’s good, but then 5/7ths of your life is wasted. Plus, you don’t really have the time and energy to fully commit to 2 days of hobbies, so you’re really only enjoying 1/7th of your miserable wasted life.

Zoboomafoo,

Sure.

And until you find that job, having something to do in the evenings is how to avoid the feeling that life is just waiting for the weekends

sentient_loom,
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Indeed. Even better is having something to live for, or even something to work for (even if the work itself sucks). And these things can take place on evenings and weekends. Then at least the toil is meaningful because it enables the real work.

CaptainSpaceman,

What if all the careers id enjoy dont pay well or have extremely high barriers to entry?

sentient_loom,
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If they don’t pay well then that’s a different problem than the meme refers to. If there’s a high barrier to entry, compete like fucking crazy and own that shit. Any different attitude is a distraction that will sabotage your efforts.

CaptainSpaceman,

OK cool, ill go try out for the Jets next season

sentient_loom,
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Are you practicing like crazy? Are you an amazing ball player with lots of experience?

CaptainSpaceman,

Are you practicing like crazy?

Yeah, 2 hours a day, every day.

Are you an amazing ball player with lots of experience?

No, im not good enough to make a varsity HS team after 10 years of practicing. But playing football is the only thing I love, its the only career id be passionate about and enjoy for more than 1 or 2 years.

What do I do coach?

sentient_loom,
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Are you convinced that you can’t do it professionally?

CaptainSpaceman,

You said all I gotta do is “make some effort”

sentient_loom,
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But you have to pick the right path to direct that effort.

Tehgingey, in Try it yourself at home!

Holy shit I do this too. Why are we like this?

Another thing I do which frustrates me to no end is trying to pick something up with something else in my hand, making the task of picking said thing up so much harder. I could put the other thing down sure, but life is pain and this is how I am.

Betch,
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Personally I blame my ADHD. Taking stuff that’s in front out of the fridge is just too many steps, too many things to do.

You gotta do it all in one motion, one step. Then you gotta figure out how to deal with the mess you’ve just made in one step.

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