dogslayeggs, Anyone who uses the argument that Graphical is pronounced with a hard G sound needs to think about how they pronounce other acronyms, like SCUBA, NASA, LASER, SONAR, POG, SIM… the list goes on.
halm, It’s flattering that you think anybody knows what all of those acronyms actually stand for. I’m semi-certain of NASA, the rest could just be made up for all I know (as a non-native English speaker).
bitwaba, Kinda hard to forget SCUBA. Self contained underwater breathing apparatus
Socsa, I do say N(ay)SA to annoy people.
Floshie, One thing I learned recently is that if GIF shall be pronounced “GIF” like the G in Graphical, JPEG shall be pronounced “JFEG” like the P in Photography
Just droppin that in
FarmTaco, If it was JPhEG sure.
uzay, Is it pronounced jilf then as well?
Socsa, (edited ) Do I look like I know what a JFEG is?
bitwaba, I just want a picture of a gosh dang JFEGdog
Wilzax, J’feg
PeWu, Fuck this, double standards ftw
CabbageColonialist, (edited ) My name is jgef
DigitalTraveler42, Yandalf the Yrey
WereCat, And Elrond is Hispanic elf
F_Haxhausen, All letters before A are silent.
MeanEYE, LF?
Annoyed_Crabby, Aragorn: You have my sword.
Legolas: And you have my bow.
Gimli: And my HAX.
giggling_engine, So his name was always Jim
webadict, I love Lejolas and Jimli’s gokes.
kamen, Dango Unchained
Syrc, Ah yes, my favorite movie https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6cca59db-9d65-4483-9ed7-a87a7a12b328.jpeg
kamen, Gneiss!
lorez, Fuck him.
ggppjj, I can’t, he’s dead.
giggling_engine, Of course you can
ggppjj, Only his corpse. Not him.
lorez, Fuck his estate.
Kushia, He should also come out with some delicious spreads for toast, he could call them Jamdalf.
EmperorHenry, The creator of the GIF format says it’s pronounced like Jiff, like the peanut butter.
He’s wrong, even though he created the format.
spudwart, That’s dumb, It’s “Graphics Interchange Format.”
dogslayeggs, How do you pronounce the U in SCUBA? How do you pronounce the two As in NASA? The A in BASE jumping? The O in POG juice? The O in SONAR? The I in SIM card? The A in LASER?
RememberTheApollo_, (edited ) I went looking for it, and apparently you’re right. He said “Jif”. He’s either trolling or being obstinate. People don’t see it that way, especially seeing as it’s the hard “G” from “Graphical” in the initialism. So he’s applying a pronunciation rule of soft G when followed with “i” when used in a word to an initialism - and acronyms aren’t words (noted: they can become treated as such).
GIF is not a word. So soft “g” when followed by “i” does not apply.
E: corrected to initialism, and now we have to debate if an initialism pronounced as an acronym should obey the soft G rule, or if it should be an exception. Exceptions do exist, so the soft G is not a hard rule.
Electromechanical_Supergiant, There is no such thing as a “hard g” or a “soft g”. There is a g sound, and there is a j sound.
Yes, I will die on this hill.
LowtierComputer, How do you pronounce bridge or baggage?
zalgotext, Brij
Baggaj
Yeah, a soft g is kinda just a j
Electromechanical_Supergiant, With J sounds, of course.
Bajjaj
Rhaedas, The funny thing is that even though there are people on both sides dead set they are right, if they hear someone say the opposite pronunciation they still understand what the speaker is referring to. So there's absolutely no context lost, it's just preference, and I have a feeling given the age of the name GIF those preferences are very regional, as the internet had not become a national/international thing yet.
dogslayeggs, It’s almost like there is no rule when pronouncing acronyms and people choose to pronounce them however sounds best to them. How do you pronounce the U in SCUBA? How do you pronounce the two As in NASA? The A in BASE jumping? The O in POG juice? The O in SONAR? The I in SIM card? The A in LASER? None of those are pronounced like the composite letters, so why is GIF so rigid?
RememberTheApollo_, It isn’t rigid.
The soft G with the following i is common. There are exceptions to that rule, so it really isn’t always a rule.
Also, GIF is an initialism, and an initialism pronounced as a word becomes an acronym. I really don’t want to debate whether an acronym has to obey “real” word rules.
lazerCovenant, Acronyms are words. They’re words formed out of the initial letters of a phrase or name.
RememberTheApollo_, I went and looked it up.
Acronym is the most correct term. GIF can be an initialism or an acronym, however it becomes an acronym when we pronounce it as a word.
I’m not going to get into a debate over it obeying word rules when it starts as an initialism. That’s for scholars and asklemmy shenanigans.
BoastfulDaedra, I read that as “Yan-dolf”.
I am not even making this up.
jdf038, OK you fancy Dutch dude. What’re ya gonna do now? Brag about bicycles and socialized medicine?!!! (He says, jealous af)
SaltyIceteaMaker, You mean yealous
Socsa, It’s clearly laurel-dolf
BoastfulDaedra, Nah, the "a"s are silent.
Jackcooper, pronounces a proper noun differently than its creator then insisting he’s the one who’s wrong
Smh. I’d like to tell French people the way they pronounce their words is wrong too, wish me luck.
timelighter, comes back
Bilbo is gay!
dies
comes back
Nazgul are just men in dresses!
not canceled cause that’s true
Annoyed_Crabby, Sauron actually do shit but he’s so powerful the shit disintegrated when it comes out.
d20bard, Gets back up, “also, his name is Jolam.” Lies back down.
Annoyed_Crabby, Ohh i see it’s a geeraffe, a long necked animal.
And power ranger called down a guyan robot to fight guyan monster enemy.
Manifish_Destiny, Do you pronounce jpeg as “jayfeg”?
SpaceNoodle, No, “jaypej.”
BoastfulDaedra, Juhpoogga.
MeanEYE, No, zhepeJ… you know same G pronunciation as in JIF.
dudinax, Op doesn’t know Frodo’s real name is Froda. Tolkien changed it for modern ears.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot, (edited ) Yep. And Samwise was Banazîr.
EDIT: Just did some more checking and, while Bilbo’s name is actually Bilba, Frodo’s name isn’t Froda. It’s Maura.
andy_wijaya_med, My whole life is a lie.
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