If you need to use a suicide/crisis hotline, just make sure you are aware of the possibility of having police called on you, but please still reach out to a hotline if you need to.
I can’t find a single source or article about this. I think this a scare meme meant to frighten people away from using the new 988 suicide prevention hotline number.
This is a very irresponsible post that can harm a lot of people.
I think it was this but he gets shot by a state trooper, not the SWAT team. But SWAT members were called to try to help negociate. He had a gun and was intoxicated, which is kinda expexted with being suicidal anyways. It doesn’t show in the article him threatening anyone.
another article for this incident, guess he came to the door during crisis negotiations, cop saw him with a gun, shot him. Did you think he’d be threatening to kill himself with an eggbeater, there, 15 year vet cop Sgt Jessie Hartsock?
I mean, without context it’s hard to tell, but suicide by cops is a thing, some people take advantage of the trigger happiness of cops and make them kill them.
I get what you’re saying here, but it strikes me as funny that this sentence could also be read to mean that having nothing around is better than having you there.
People like you always say that, but you don’t actually want/need that kind of responsibility. There are suicide hotlines for a reason; let trained people handle it.
People like me?.. I don’t like to reveal a lot about myself online. That being said, I’ve talked many people out of committing suicide or self harm. I’ve said before in other comments that I’m in the medical field at a high level.
Positive mental health treatment is an extremely important subject to me. I stand by what I’ve said because I’ve been there when people have been in crisis.
Kneeling down and talking to a newly diagnosed schizophrenic 18 year old in an isolation room or a suicidal 16 year old girl is not easy and sometimes even dangerous.
All I’m trying to do here is give people immediately available resources if they’re feeling unwell.
I love your energy, friend. Thank you for caring about strangers. In this world, that means a lot. However, I think this advice is very region-specific. In most of America, for instance, this isn’t good advice. This is closer to calling the Army than a crisis counsellor. In other places, where police have the resources to help someone in this position, this may be excellent advice.
There are probably better places to direct people for resources like this. Don’t stop fighting; fight more effectively. If you can’t find anything better to link people, @ me and I’ll try to help
Unethical life pro tip: want to kill yourself but left something for your family? Buy a life insurance policy, call the suicide prevention hotline and wait for the cops to kill you. Isn’t technically suicide, so the life insurer can’t deny your family claim!!
For those that are genuinely confused, there’s two very important things you must know. The coroner is the job title for the guy who writes up what caused you to die. They do things like autopsies (when required), and they’re basically a doctor for dead people.
The other thing is the English idiom of “paying [someone] off”, which is basically a common way to not so subtley say that you’re bribing them.
So in plain language: there is an extremely good chance that my uncle bribed the coroner to ignore whatever he found on my uncle when he died and say he perished from natural causes. This normally implies something about self deletion and insurance, since insurance basically never pays out if you die by your own hands.
Is anyone still confused? Please let me know if you are and I can address any part of this that might not be crystal clear.
It’s not quite about clearness, but if your uncle did that all by himself that means he must have trusted the coroner a lot. Which is a bit surprising with regard to bribing one, to my mind.
He had fallen in with some questionable types throughout his life, partly due to his work. I won’t get into many details here, I don’t want it to be traced back to his family or anything; but due to the circumstances he found himself in, bluntly, he was worth more dead, than alive. He would only be worth anything if he died “naturally” or something, since life insurance is kind of a stickler for that sort of thing.
All I was told was that he had made arrangements for his body to be found, and around what was going to be done afterwards to ensure that insurance paid out so his family would be taken care of.
The circumstances were kinda BS too, it wasn’t his fault, but he was liable and there was little he could do to change that. He knew what the outcomes were and to him, death was the better option. I’m not saying I agree with his choices. I had no real part in them, I was too young at the time to really grasp what was happening, and appropriately, I was not aware of, nor involved in any of it, and heard most of what I know through my older siblings and from my father (his brother). He apparently sent my dad a note the night before he was found dead basically summarizing what was about to happen, so it was very clearly planned. As far as I’m aware, everything went according to plan and though I don’t have much contact with that part of my family, I believe they’re doing just fine.
Just a touch more detail on the circumstances, it was some legal issue he found himself kind of “holding the bag” for (so to speak) so his outcomes were: (extremely unlikely) he would be found innocent, and allowed to return to his “normal” life - obviously he didn’t think this was possible at all. (most likely) he would be found guilty and sentenced to many years in prison. Being a convict would ruin his chosen vocation as there’s a lot of trust required in what he does and a conviction would basically exclude him from working in his field. (alternatively) he dies, insurance pays out, his family gets a big wad of cash, and he would be just as useless as if he was found guilty; but now with a pretty significant amount of money given to his family.
I don’t hold it against him. I don’t have any strong feelings on the matter. It’s just something that happened.
I kinda legit want to check the conditions of my current life insurance policies regarding suicide. Not because I want to off myself today, but because I do want to off myself if I get the stage four diagnosis or some such thing.
Cops will still claim it was suicide-by-cop. Which is some top-tier copaganda, because it’s just another way of them saying “if you call us while in distress, there’s a good chance we’ll kill you then blame you for it.”
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