Gonroz,

Kobalt gang 😎

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I have tools from Ridgid

crystalmerchant,

DeWalt gang rise up

littlecolt,

How dare they ignore the fifth and oldest house, House Craftsman

Twofacetony,

I love “the wire” scene on picking a power tool.

youtu.be/-N_UuImPL4E

“Yeah. Cordless’ll do that. You might want to consider the powder-actuated tool. The Hilti DX460MX or the Simpson PTP. These two are my Cadillacs. Everything else on this board is second best, sorry to say. Are you contracting or just doing some work around the house?”

peyotecosmico,

I have forgotten Snoops… man it was a challenge to understand her w/o subtitles

Barack_Embalmer,

He meant Lexus but he ain’t know it.

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Where is the power fist / what ever is cheapest?

drphungky,

This tracks.

DeWalt: high quality and good pedigree but overpriced = Slytherin

Milwaukee: basically the same as DeWalt, but less pretentious. Thinks they’re better and tougher though = Gryffindor

Makita: the smart choice for value, also best colors = Ravenclaw

Ryobi: I know it will break, but they’re just tools and I’m not serious about this anyway. I would rather spend more money on my family or other hobbies = Hufflepuff

Honorable mentions of other “houses” and schools in the thread.

Black and Decker/Craftsman/whatever. Used to be very impressive, but completely corrupted. Probably evil = Durmstrang (Russian school)

Festool: Beautiful, absolutely dripping with wealth signals. Still pretty amazing at what they do, but you might not want them on a job site = Beauxbatons (super wealthy French school)

Harbor freight: Simple, potentially the most powerful but also likely to break. Can probably accomplish what you need by using a wrench as a hammer, but you wouldn’t want to do anything delicate with it. Actually the biggest group of dad-wizards = Uagadou (the school in Uganda where magic was invented but they don’t use wands)

sibannac,

What about snap-on?

Blue_Morpho,

I don’t know where you shop but DeWalt is cheaper than Milwaukee and Makita. Project Farm tests show Milwaukee as usually best but trades wins against Makita.

So no, DeWalt isn’t overpriced. It’s cheaper and less quality. Neither is Milwaukee equivalent to DeWalt. Milwaukee/Makita are better, sometimes incredibly better than DeWalt but at a much higher price.

For example a drill with battery on Amazon is:

DeWalt: $99 Makita: $149 Ryobi: $73 Milwaukee: $144

At Home Depot and Lowes, the price difference between DeWalt and Milwaukee is even bigger.

MonkRome,

Yeah the only tools I’ve had die on me way too early is DeWalt and Ryobi.

Fiivemacs,

I want to see model numbers on those prices you’re comparing.

Anything I go to an actual store, DeWalt is more then Milwaukee. I never look at Ryobi or Makita because they are not good professional tools and break much faster then DeWalt or Milwaukee

Blue_Morpho,

1/2" drill/driver. The Milwaukee comes with 2 3a batteries compared to DeWalt having 1 4 ah which explains $50.

www.homedepot.com/p/…/204279858

www.homedepot.com/p/…/325544370

Although I also see a $99 Milwaukee with a single 2 Ahr battery which is weird because the tool alone is $129.

xenspidey,

Those are hard to compare, especially at Home Depot. They are always having combo deals. Those are also the cheaper lines, the MAX XR and M18 FUEL are where the prices separate. That’s the top of the line of each brand.

www.homedepot.com/p/…/309377508#overlay

www.homedepot.com/p/…/320326855

drphungky,

My Makita circular saw is great, though admittedly it gets pretty light use. The rip guide/fence system it comes with is absolute garbage though.

drphungky, (edited )

Could be, but there are also like 80 different impact drivers in each brand, so tough to compare apples to apples. I also bought all my power tools years and years ago, so just going off what I remember when I was doing my research. I actually own mostly DeWalt and some Makita and Harbor Freight, and my router stuff is all Bosch. The only Milwaukee stuff I own is their M18 yard tools stuff and it’s really shoddily built and quite shit, though it did look the best compared to the alternatives - so probably just a function of compromising on a multi tool. But hey, I’m just one dad.

The one thing I know for sure is there’s a silly amount of brand loyalty and sweeping generalizations (like the ones I made!), and it’s tough to cut through any of it since tool review websites and videos are probably the worst example of AI generated blogspam I experience in my daily life. Unless someone’s a professional tradesman, they probably don’t get to use tools enough to have well-informed opinions, and then their needs don’t even really match harry homeowner in the first place!

It’s probably best to just do blind tribalism and give us something to make fun of other dads for. What I’m trying to say is your response is exactly what someone in House Milwaukee would say.

Socsa,

Is this canonical?

sagrotan,
@sagrotan@lemmy.world avatar

Awesome characterization, I’m not following the Potterverse but what would Hilti be? Or Mafell?

drphungky,

We’ve reached the ends of my knowledge of both tool brands and Harry Potter unfortunately. Hilti I’ve got no idea - I only feel bad about leaving out Bosch.

JokklMaster,

FYI Durmstrang is from Hungary.

MyPornViewingAccount,

So Russia-lite

drphungky,

Ah, thanks. I haven’t read those books for years and years.

HelixDab2,

Depending on what you’re doing, you absolutely want Festool on a job site. A Rotex sander is fantastic for doing the edges when you’re refinishing hardwood floors, for instance. (Goddamn incompatible sanding discs though… You have to buy the Festool discs if you want the dust management.) For some jobs, there really aren’t any viable alternatives to Festool; no one else makes a domino joiner, which is somewhere between a plate joiner and a mortise and tenon joint. (You can get close by using a precision doweling jig, but the domino joiner is fast. Mortise and tenons are fantastic joints, but a mortising machine isn’t terribly portable, and cutting one by hand is far, far more skill than I have.)

drphungky,

I’m familiar, but does a domino go to a job site? Or does it stay in a dedicated shop full of fancy/specialized tools?

Also we should probably remember we’re talking dads getting sorted, not actual professionals, so if I’m wrong in industry - it’s because I’m coming from hobbyist dad-land. I don’t even know anyone with anything festool. At best I’m going off of forums and YouTube and guessing at what fancy dads want…though I wouldn’t mind a domino of someone else is paying!

HelixDab2,

A domino joiner on a job site would be good for things like putting together pieces or a banister (railing) where you needed both the strength or something like a doweled joint as well as the alignment capability of a biscuit joiner. It’s going to add strength to any kind of mitered joint that would be glued/where you don’t want to see nails. Most of the uses are going to be in cabinetry or furniture rather than in general carpentry and contracting, but it definitely has a few very specialized uses on a job site.

I am not a contractor, but I did it for a very brief period of time (until the business owner stiffed me of about a thousand in pay, and I realized it wasn’t a good side gig).

hakunawazo, (edited )
RememberTheApollo_, (edited )

Ha! That looks fun. Hope you don’t mind me jumping in, I had a go at the AI too. Prompt was hillbilly wearing [insert brand] tools hardhat.

Milwaukee

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d0169827-6480-4dea-a0e1-c503e371924d.jpeg

Ryobi

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9db86f23-06b3-4513-ae2b-88570b4a5fff.jpeg

Makita

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4a661a1c-d740-49b4-af5d-455f87b86507.jpeg

Do…er…Dewalt

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b3641ae6-2e3c-43e4-9725-81e6a126d4c7.jpeg

Makita dude is ripped, but funny that he’s holding a DeWalt-looking…thing.

never ceases to amaze me that AI has such a hard time with basic text, but IMO that’s probably not something they want to be refined. Too much liability in churning out fake imagery with actual copyrighted/trademarked brands and the like.

blotz,
@blotz@lemmy.world avatar

Why are they in a jungle or not in the same pic

hakunawazo,

The prompt was just hillbilly with hard hat smiling. Maybe it wasn’t exact enough.

Patches, (edited )

Because AI is shit

Cannacheques,

I got three of the four, just one more power tool set and I’ll be sweet lol

sagrotan,
@sagrotan@lemmy.world avatar

What about the tribes out in the wild? The Festools, Mafells and Hiltis?

hOrni,

You remember how Harry chose the house he wanted to be in, and it’s canon, that the sorting hat ward isn’t definite? When I was buying my first tool, I wanted a Ryobi. But they didn’t have it in stock and they did have Makita on sale and the sales guy told me that would be much better for the same price. So after that I’m buying only Makita, to fit the rest.

Patches,

Well… was he right?

Llewellyn,

Of course. Didn’t you watch Harry Potter?

Patches, (edited )

I did but I’m still not convinced Harry was better off in Gryffindor

hOrni,

I can’t tell. I never had an issue, but I’m only using the tool for home use.

Lintson,

In Australia

Ryobi: for DIY, apprentices or otherwise cheapskates. No shame in it. Best bang for buck if you don’t wear them out and the best part is you’re not going to be worried that someone will nick off with them. A lot of their range isn’t brushless and these tools will let you down the moment you need to do something moderately demanding.

Milwaukee: has won the trades tool war. They have a huge range of tools and their customer service with regard to warranty replacement can’t be beat. Tradies are very comforted that know that they can abuse the crap out of their tool and not be out of pocket.

Makita: my house. I consider more of a gentlemans tool even though many swear they are the most rugged things out there. I think their batteries are better than the competition in terms of overall cycles so long as they are not abused. Their carpentry tools are so so buttery to use. Wish they had a bigger tool range.

Bosch: Not as good as the above two but priced the same or higher. Limited tool range. Batteries are really not amazing. Sad to see but the only persons using these are really those who insist on buying only a german/european branded product.

Dewalt: Yellow is not as good as red or teal and is priced accordingly. Weird second best niche. Batteries kind of trash imo.

Ozito/Ferrex/etc: Chinesium. Bit of a roll of the dice. Some stuff may last but generally expect these tools to fail at some point even with light usage. Generally not fun/comfortable to use either.

MySwellMojo,

Any Harbor Freighters? Any Hercules dads?

afraid_of_zombies,

My policy is to buy Harbor freight and when the tool dies from being used to buy a good one.

Tbird83ii,

This needs to be a rule.

JargonWagon,

It’s an unspoken rule, for sure.

dirtbiker509,

This is the way!

DarthBueller,

And sometimes the harbor frieght is a direct clone of the name brand but for inferior plastic parts where the name brand would have metal. You can often upgrade the knockoff to be a near equivalent.

tiltinjon,

Bauer has so many useful tools in their set now. Invertor you can run a tv off the tool battery, handy tire inflator, and a pretty nice rotary tool.

Threeme2189, (edited )

GryffinDeWalt
Milwauflepuff
Ravenkita
SlytheRyobi

afraid_of_zombies,

I want a complete DeWalt set and the time at home enough to justify using each and every tool until it does from usage

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