I think this is by design. I once contributed to git, and it required putting a patch in the mailing list. It certainly forced you to be sure your code was spot on.
And it will discourage new users from contributing. Thus, only boomers and corpos will contribute, and over time Linux becomes a de facto corporate owned committee.
A laptop of that age should not have any trouble with the kinds of things you’re doing, so it’s probably more of a hardware issue than a software one, unless some rogue process is eating up your CPU. You probably don’t need a lightweight distro (unless you prefer to keep things extra-light) and if it’s a hardware issue installing one may not help. So, as others have said here, first check the running processes for anything odd, then repaste it and blow out the dust.
Some of those arguments are legit but like half is complaining about wayland being fundamentally different to xorg and obviously you cannot use straight xorg apps on it.
“Linux is inferior because it breaks all my powershell scripts and all my windows only apps. Don’t use linux.”
I mean, to play devil’s advocate here - if functionality that you need is all of a sudden swept out from under you then it doesn’t matter from an end user perspective if it’s not the intended design for Wayland - to the user, Wayland is broken in that regard.
A better equivalent would be if an application you used every day for the last 10 years all of a sudden has an update that kills features you used because that’s no longer part of the dev(s) vision. Or headphone jacks on phones. Or whatever that weird thing with Teslas where they disabled a sensor in an OTA update and replaced it with some other solution(?).
Or to modify the example you put, if Windows killed the cmd shell and only left powershell in a Windows Update.
I have an application that I need to use at work which will never fit Wayland’s design, short of me either finding a new job, keeping a Windows install around, or using a really old version of Linux around in a VM when X11 has completely disappeared from all distros (which won’t really work) - there will be nothing that I can do about it on the Wayland side because it’s highly unlikely the devs will update it to be compatible (since it’s a shock that they actually even had Linux support in the first place).
As it is, I currently just pop into an X11 session whenever I’m on working hours, it will suck that I can’t do that with Fedora come next release when they completely drop X from the repos.
Most points are just complaining that tools specifically designed for X don’t work on Wayland. That’s like hanging onto your childhood pants and complaining they don’t fit anymore.
But many of those are actively used by people. I use screen recording, screen sharing, global menus, key automation and window automation every day. Even if I wanted to use Wayland I couldn’t. What exactly is it that you want me to do?
And one of the first points is how Wayland crash will bring down all running applications - yep, just like on X11! But it’s somehow Wayland’s fault.
Besides the fact that on Wayland running apps can survive a compositor crash (I think new KDE will have that feature), which I doubt can be done on X11.
A WM crash does not bring down all the other applications… but an X11 server crash definitely does!
In wayland they are the same program (a.k.a. the compositor). User applications can be designed to survive a compositor crash, though many are not able yet
An X session depends on the main user process. Unless a DE picks the compositor as the main process then no, a compositor crash won’t affect the session. But they don’t do that, for obvious reasons, since the compositor is just a feature among others. They typically have a special program that takes that role, for example xfce4-session.
And one of the first points is how Wayland crash will bring down all running applications - yep, just like on X11! But it’s somehow Wayland’s fault.
They said that a Wayland window manager will bring down all apps, not a Wayland crash. Which, again, is not like it works on X, as I explained above. The window manager on X, like the compositor, is just another feature. If it crashes it just gets replaced and the session continues.
That’s a feature, stop buying hardware from vendors that treat GNU/Linux and *BSD users as second-class citizens and locks them into proprietary drivers.
Games are developed for X11. And if you run a game on Wayland, performance is subpar due to things like forced vsync. Only recently, some Wayland implementations (like KDE KWin) let you disable that.
That’s a feature, stop buying hardware from vendors that treat GNU/Linux and *BSD users as second-class citizens and locks them into proprietary drivers.
Nowadays I buy a new graphics card maybe twice a decade. I’m not changing the card for software.
Also, we’re all using proprietary hardware. Be serious. If you tried to never use anything proprietary you’d never use anything. You’re using like a dozen of them right now.
Sure, I have proprietary bits on my kernel and my AMD GPU needs proprietary firmware loaded to work, but that’s a hell lot different than the situation NVIDIA shoves users into. It’s one thing to have small proprietary components that don’t bother me or break my workflow, it’s another to have black box drivers that can bork my setup if I dare to update my packages.
I suppose it explains why people have a bad attitude about Wayland when tools providing useful functionality are described as trojans.
X11 can (…mostly…) have great security by just providing a suitable X Security module to it. It just seems it wasn’t considered that big of an issue that anyone bothered. Nokia Maemo/Meego used to rock such a module.
Sway has become a joy to use over time as I’ve fucked with my config but now I feel like it’s more boring too I barely ever feel the need or want to massively change anything 🥲
you can always use a login manager to manage different WM sessions. When i get bored of sway i switch to hyprland, i use different bars for each one too. Its bloat but its fun.
Same, I got “bored” so I tried hyprland for a bit on another machine, but when I realised I’d rather have the animations turned off, and was trying to make the config the same as my Sway one, I realised all I needed was Sway. Swaylove4eva
I don’t know much about Gmail but I’m quite certain, that you only have to enable IMAP/SMTP in Gmail settings.
protonmail.
Install the Proton Mail Bridge and connect to the IMAP/SMTP server on localhost (ports 1143 and 1025).
Does anyone have a simple way of solving this problem?
I had only minor problems getting the above to work. Anyway., for Protonmail there is ElectronMail. It’s available as Flatpak too and it minimizes/starts to tray.
I can get the clients to fetch the e-mail atm, the issue is what I wrote above, is there a simple way to get thunderbird to fetch them from the moment I turn the pc on and give me notifications about it?
is there a simple way to get thunderbird to fetch them from the moment I turn the pc on and give me notifications about it?
Sure. You can autostart Thunderbird and keep it open but I haven’t found a way, where Thunderbird closes/starts to the tray and for some odd reasons the developers seem to think that users do not need this functionality which makes the whole email client unusable for a large part of the potential user base.
I can get the clients to fetch the e-mail atm, the issue is what I wrote above,
??? You wrote:
Who the heck knows how to get evolution/geary to play nice with business gmail/protonmail.
As of this second I have all 3 clients I mentioned fetching e-mails while they’re open. However none of them fetch e-mails in the background, and geary/evolution seem to just… break sometimes and I have to redo the process to add business gmail/proton accounts to it.
My main issue is the fetching e-mails in the background though, it doesnt feel to me as if it should be something that difficult or niche.
That’s weird. I run Geary myself for a couple off accounts and so far it does the job perfectly and without hiccups.
Anyway. You may try birdtray as written in one of the other comments but I’m pretty sure I tried it at least once and for some reasons wasn’t convinced. YMMW
Yes. If it helps: I run it under Gnome. Maybe you need some extra service running?! I just checked and on my machine - in addition to Geary - there is the evolution-data-server running among others (evolution-source-registry, evolution-alarm-notify, evolution-calendar-factory, evolution-addressbook-factory).
Birdtray might be what you’re looking for. I’ve only used it on windows, but for me it gets thunderbird out of the way but able to be checked and used immediately.
How do you mean that its overheating? My GF says the same about her laptop, but its just cooling itself off. Does yours freeze or start slowing down a lot? Are you monitoring temps and see that they’re beyond your CPU acceptable range (usually 90C, IIRC)?
Can you hear your laptop's fan speed up when it's overheating? Linux on my old laptop couldn't control the fan speed so it was always overheating. When I figured out how to manually set it to maximum, it overheated much less.
If you are seeing temps out of spec for your CPU, its not unheard of for thermal paste to dry or even shift if the laptop has been through some chassis strain. Could be worth a careful examination.
Can you pinpoint what you did to your system before? Did you do a system update? Did you move game files around? Did you add any repositories trying to install something that also updated other dependencies, or alike?
I’m not familiar with mint, but maybe you can see whether you can easily downgrade to the previous version you had. And hold off on the updates until a fix is published for the broken stuff.
But before that, take a look at the mint communities and see whether it’s a known issue and whether there is a manual intervention needed to fix it. Something like “newest update broke some proton games”, etc.
Looking so forward to seeing K-9 Mail incorporate even more modern features (snooze!) and take on the new branding. It has already come a long way these past couple of years, and made my degoogling journey much easier. Would love to see an Android-based calendaring equivalent too. Shout out to cketti for all his hard work!
Wayland xdg-shell Protocol is tailored only for GNOME needs.
What why is this a problem at all? For what’s worth GNOME is the only actually half designed and half usable thing out there. Yes they could add desktop icons and drop the “go into activities after boot” bullshit but how well, they’ve 1M€ in funding to reinvent the DE in all the unnecessary ways possible.
(And this comment is how you offend both the GNOME fans and haters at the same time. Probably also anyone else who cares about having alternatives.)
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