KDE. Not a distro, but I can’t get on with it. Too much screen real estate used by flashy things, and everything moves. I want instant transitions not a shwoosh. It’s probably all toggleable, but I don’t want to fiddle with it for every install or release.
I’ve got Ubuntu on my server, mint (xfce) on an old iMac, and I really want to install Asahi on my m1 Mac mini, but my wife also uses that machine and I don’t think she’d like using asahi.
I love xfce, I’ve tried some WM like AwesomeWM and I see the appeal for sure, it just takes a while to get used to, like VIM, which I want to mess with as well. Asahi Linux looks super good, but I honestly don’t dislike macOS that much.
I think about it like a tree structure for both. With a gui you have to move your mouse around to various places, with a cli each character branches off into another tree. Mathematically you can handle more options faster with a CLI.
Never tried regular Arch after trying Black Arch, so not sure if they’re the same feel, but after realizing the work it would take just to be given the capability to resize windows in the UI instead of just coming with drag and resize out of the box, Black Arch was a huge no go for me… Which kept me from wanting to touch regular Arch, lol. That being said, I go nope to Ubuntu the most. Gentoo is my favorite and is what my server has been running for the past decade without any kind of issue, but for laptop and daily use, I use Mint. Been on that one for about a decade now too… Used to use Peppermint (that still a thing?) and Suse the most before those.
I find this reply kind of confusing, you’re comfortable with Gentoo on a server but installing a DE with pacman was too much? Black arch slim comes with xfce, that should definitely allow you to resize windows lol.
My comment on arch is just related to the use of black arch for a regular desktop or laptop machine, not my server (no desktop environment for the server). Was mostly trying it to compare it with Kali, actually.
Black arch does come with xfce by default indeed, but resizing windows isn’t available right away. At least it wasn’t when I tried it a couple of years ago. It required changing a bunch of configurations manually for whatever reason.
Oh I see… I haven’t used black arch personally, that seems so strange they’d go out of their way to disable that. For whatever is worth vanilla Arch + Xfce + i3 has been super great for my desktop, really brought new life to the hardware
I feel like I’m a chronic distro-hopper sometimes, but no matter how many times I try, I just can’t settle into OpenSUSE for whatever reason. The OBS feels a bit more of a wild west than the AUR.
Mint, and anything else that requires PPAs. Last time I distrohopped, I had a rule that if I couldn’t install Librewolf in under a minute or two, it wasn’t worth the trouble.
Mind you, this was before flatpaks were big, but I also own a potato and don’t want to waste space on flatpaks.
If you’re having this much fun digging into distros, I have to recommend* Gentoo and Funtoo :3 I think you could have some fun with those toohehehehehehehehe
*(re-commend, not recco-mend! … Now I wonder if “recommend” at some point commonly/ever sounded like “Riikka mend” 🤔)
I have heard of Gentoo, but not Funtoo. I’m still fumbling my way through Arch but I will definitely make some VMs one day to see what it’s all about. From my understanding (correct me if I’m wrong please) Gentoo is like Arch but even more customization, everything has to be compiled from source.
What is your experience with Gentoo, how would you describe it compared to Arch? Also I’ve seen FreeBSD as well and think it would be super nice for a server but not able to play games without difficulty due to fundamental differences to linux.
I’d say Gentoo is kinda… grittier? It’s less eager to help you out and be nice. Where Arch is like “Oh, you want Foo? Okay, here’s Foo, along with Bar and Baz to go with it” Gentoo is like “'Kay, building Foo.” Then you wonder why Foo doesn’t do Baz-y things and how it’s any good to anycritter without Bar, and it turns out those are compile-time options and you didn’t set the USE flags to include them for Foo so it wasn’t built with them. Your system never downloaded, built, or installed them at all because you didn’t tell it to. It pretty well expects you to know what you want and what you need to do it >:3 … that, and have a nice beefy CPU 😅 I tend to alternate between Arch and Gentoo every few years. Am currently using Arch (bytheway ;P) after switching from Gentoo for some comfy convenience but I kinda love both.
Funtoo is… I don’t entirely remember what it was meant to be, compared to Gentoo 😅 I vaguely recall it was supposed to have some nice features but wanted me to do sensible things like stop using ancient GRUB so I just didn’t get into it. May try that next.
As for BSDs, I’ve kinda wanted to run a BSD for a long time but none of them are what I actually want (despite my nonsensical eagerness to be and do weird wherever possible- er, I mean, despite how good and stable and cool they are!) so I just kinda poke one or two every few years, accomplish nothing, then give up. I do want to like them, though 😅
I appreciate the big response, and definitely have to look into compiling and the build process, using git, more terminal centric applications, etc. I’ve seen that there is a distro to learn Linux that comes in stages, I don’t know what it’s called off the top of my head.
Setting flags does seem very annoying, it’s hard for me to keep track of programs and settings already.
Void Linux with musl. I wanted to try setting up a distro with Musl, but many things I use daily simply don’t work with it, and the hassle of troubleshooting everything was a bit too much. I went back to Fedora Workstation, and I’ll likely stay on it for my workstation (though I’ll switch to Fedora Kinoite when Fedora 40 releases). I also use Fedora Server for my personal server, since it’s very familiar to me, and there’s not a huge point in switching to CentOS anymore with the recent changes, so I’ll probably just stick to it.
I’m talking mostly about musl, but Void with glibc still requires more work than a “just works” distro. As such, I didn’t see a point in trying Void with glibc, because the biggest benefit I saw to switching was for musl. It’s great for some, but not for me, just as I wouldn’t use Gentoo. There were a lot of things that didn’t run, I don’t have a full list. I know for a fact that Steam (or any Steam games) wouldn’t run, I’m fairly confident that the OnlyOffice suite wouldn’t work, I believe that EasyEffects wouldn’t run which was a big problem, since I use that for system wide equalization, and for my microphone filters. I probably could have figured out how to set everything up with bare PipeWire, but it’s basically the same story for everything: it just requires way more work. My VPN (Mullvad) isn’t compiled for musl, nor was the Nextcloud client, and many things I use every day. Those are just the things I remember having issues with off the top of my head, and it may not have only been musl that was the problem, but it’s very likely it was.
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