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520, (edited ) in Looking to switch to Linux in the somewhat distant future

First time? Use Ubuntu. Not only is it easy to use and a good UX overall, most tutorials assume a Ubuntu based distro (there are differences between distros that can be...hard to translate over). That's going to be really useful when you're looking up how to do stuff

thespezfucker,

thanks!!!

d3Xt3r, (edited )

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  • avidamoeba, (edited )
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    This is not 2005 when the vast majority’s experience with interactive UX on a screen was Windows. People today operate Android, iOS much more so than Windows. Thus they are able to grok multiple OS chrome paradigms without much difficulty. And then the OS chrome is rather simple and therefore learning it doesn’t cost much or yield significant benefits should you have gotten that knowledge for free. Therefore the argument for choosing an OS based on its chrome is as shallow as the chrome itself. The difficult stuff is things not working due to defects (bugs), finding solutions and implementing them and that’s where the OS choice yields the highest benefit. On that front few options beat Ubuntu LTS other than perhaps Debian, but Debian isn’t novice-friendly.

    520, (edited )

    The default UX used in Ubuntu may actually be confusing for newbies, as it’s quite different compared to Windows.

    It's not that different, dude, and it's not like they don't give you a tutorial on first boot either.

    Perhaps a distro which uses KDE, XFCE, Cinnamon, MATE or LXQt by default.

    Gauge your audience dude. A Linux newbie will not know wtf anything you just named is. (For any other newbies reading, these are all 'desktop environments' - essentially collections of programs that make up a user interface)

    thespezfucker,

    well I did watch a video about desktop environment, I believe it was a tierlist video tho

    d3Xt3r,

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  • 520, (edited )

    Side dock, top panel, lack of a “start” menu are already three immediately visible differences, and you claim it’s not that different?

    The side dock is a taskbar except on the left hand side. Big whoop. Top panel is basically the system tray as seen on Windows, with all functionality fairly obvious just by looking at it, and there is infact a start button where you can type in the program name you're looking for, just like most people do in Windows. Not exactly MacOS levels of relearning.

    Which is EXACTLY why I mentioned them, so that they can Google it.

    Or...you can explain what you are talking about. Like I did for you. Sending newbies off on wild Google chases is not helpful.

    d3Xt3r,

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  • 520,

    Why not?

    d3Xt3r,

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  • 520,

    The people that shat themselves over Windows 8 probably aren't the kind of people to experiment with a new OS.

    d3Xt3r, (edited )

    Parent comment is wrong. The default UX used in Ubuntu may actually be confusing for newbies, as it’s quite different compared to Windows. Just check some screenshots or videos and you can see for yourself. I’d instead recommend going for a distro which uses a more familiar UX (ie the Desktop Environment).

    Perhaps a distro which uses KDE, XFCE, Cinnamon, MATE or LXQt by default (these are “desktop environments” (DE) - which is a collection of the desktop shell components (eg start menu, taskbar, dock etc) plus default applications that go with it eg the file manager, document viewer etc). A desktop environment like the ones I mentioned above, in their default settings, should be familiar to most Windows users. Now whilst you can install any DE on any distro, it can be a daunting task for newbies, plus, the settings might not be optimal for you. So it’s better to go with a distro that comes with such easy-to-use DEs by default. Examples of such distros include Linux Mint and Zorin. These, by default, should look quite familiar to you, and should be even more easier to use than Ubuntu.

    Both Mint and Zorin are based on Ubuntu, so most of the documentation for Ubuntu should be relevant to Mint and Zorin as well. But if you’re not sure, just include quotes for your distro when you’re doing a web search, eg how do I do this in Linux “Mint” will ensure you’ll only get results with “Mint” in the page.

    avidamoeba,
    @avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

    Parent comment is right. The body of documentation generated for Ubuntu by the community is an enormous asset. It’s one of the important side effects of it being the most used distro.

    assplode,

    Another vote for Ubuntu.

    I tried it as my first Linux distro about 5 years ago. There was some learning curve, but I really enjoyed it.

    I've been using it for 5 years now. I'm glad I switched from windows!

    SomeBoyo, in Looking to switch to Linux in the somewhat distant future

    Mint is a good beginner distro and has many guides available. Try LMDE

    st3ph3n, in Looking to switch to Linux in the somewhat distant future
    @st3ph3n@kbin.social avatar

    I've been linux-curious on-and-off for years. I've toyed with it several times but always gone back to Windows eventually. I have a laptop with a 7th gen Intel CPU that is not supported on Windows 11, so I decided to wipe it and threw the latest version of Linux Mint on it. Everything (except for a fingerprint reader) worked straight out of the figurative box, and I've been happily running it on that machine for about 6 months now. I think Mint is a good choice if you want a simple windows-like experience.

    I still have a desktop PC running Windows for games and Adobe Lightroom and stuff, but I won't be going back to Windows on that laptop.

    LunchEnjoyer, in openSUSE Logo Contest Concludes With Winners Selected
    @LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world avatar

    Honestly not sure what to make of think of this…

    independantiste, in Looking to switch to Linux in the somewhat distant future
    @independantiste@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Get Ubuntu, Mint, or PopOS don’t bother with the others at first as it will be more difficult to find help on forums with lesser known versions of Linux. If you have an Nvidia as your main graphics card you might have a better time with PopOS as it comes pre configured with the right drivers and everything.

    Stillhart, in Looking to switch to Linux in the somewhat distant future

    If you game, and especially if you use nvidiva, I’d recommend Pop!_OS or Nobara.

    thespezfucker,

    I’ll take note

    Grangle1, in openSUSE Logo Contest Concludes With Winners Selected

    The main logo choice is fine, no complaints there, but the choices for the others just seem so disjointed from each other (not to mention they basically just chose the old Leap logo again, but in yellow). I really liked the idea of having some sort of unifying design element across the logos to indicate they are all OpenSUSE products. There were some decent concepts with that idea floating around.

    savvywolf, in Looking to switch to Linux in the somewhat distant future
    @savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

    Mint is my recommendation, having using it myself for many years now.

    If you have a Nvidia GPU, a case could be made for POP! due to the built in drivers, but installing Nvidia drivers is rather painless in Mint.

    Piwix, in KDE Plasma Mobile 6 Porting Underway

    Love the look of this, would love to be able to use this on my current phone

    Mesophar, in Looking to switch to Linux in the somewhat distant future

    Get a cheap 1-2 tb drive and start dual-booting with whatever system you’re running now. This way you can play around with different distros while retaining your current settup to fall back on!

    thespezfucker,

    can you duel boot with a modren laptop tho, and can the drive be external

    Mesophar,

    It wouldn’t be the most ideal, but you can dual-boot with an external drive. There are external SSDs that are meant for running programs/games off of them, and would look into those for best performance.

    Alternatively, if you have plenty of unused storage on the laptop you can partition some of that for use, but a second drive is usually preferred.

    juli,

    Don’t use a HDD to run your system on it :D

    thespezfucker,

    will take note, but what would happen if I did?

    juli,

    It’s a LOT slower than SSD

    thespezfucker,

    ah

    Guenther_Amanita, (edited ) in Looking to switch to Linux in the somewhat distant future

    Mint is the most mentioned choice and an extremely great beginner distro with an huge community.

    ZorinOS will get a big update very soon and is also a very good choice. It was my first distro, especially because it looks very modern and pleasing.

    If you’re a tiny bit more advanced and get the basics, then you might take a look at the immutable Fedora variants like Silverblue.

    They have many advantages compared to traditional distros like the two mentioned above, but atomic Linux is a relatively new concept. I also find them easier to understand and use, and, imo, they’re even more user friendly, but not as refined.

    GustavoM, in Looking to switch to Linux in the somewhat distant future
    @GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

    Then do it? It’s a free operating system – just download whatever distro pleases you, give it a spin, see what happens.

    thespezfucker,

    I would but I am pretty worried about my files being lost, plus I’m waiting until I get a better device

    thespezfucker,

    speaking of Linux, I was supposed to upgrade to Linux when I got my new laptop, but forgot about it, sorry!

    trevor,

    From personal experience: if you’re trying to dual-boot with Windows, I recommend using completely separate drives (rather than separate partitions). Windows is very shitty about overwriting your Linux boot partitions when it updates. Having a separate drive isn’t fool-proof, but it helps.

    I haven’t needed Windows in >10 years though, so maybe it’s not as shitty about that, but I recommend caution.

    thespezfucker,

    I would do this if I knew how to install separate drives, and if my main PC wasn’t a laptop

    WeLoveCastingSpellz,

    you can install seperate drives on a laptop and dualboot, I know it because I did it before

    thespezfucker,

    TELL ME ASAP, I’ll try to find the specs of my laptop, PLEASE TELL ME

    WeLoveCastingSpellz,

    depends onthd laptop mine wasas sjmplle as opening it and puting another ssd inside. tell me what laptop us it

    Froyn,

    Back in the late 1900s, you could open a laptop and remove a hard drive with only a #2 phillips screw driver. So I think they mean that. Physically remove your Windows drive, install a fresh drive, install/play/learn Linux. With your Windows drive disconnected, you can do ANYTHING in Linux without fear of losing any data on that other drive.

    Frustrated and just "need to work"? Reverse the process back to the Windows drive.

    Feeling a little more confident and want to access your files on the Windows drive? Get a SATA-USB adapter. No need to go all enclosure just yet as that just adds steps when you need the Windows setup.

    Comfortable in Linux? Copy your important data over to the Linux system, format the original drive, NOW put it in an enclosure for a handy backup drive.

    Feeling confident in your newfound prowess? Connect that external drive to a Raspberry Pi and turn the Pi into a basic NAS, maybe drop a little VPN on it, and now you can access that device/drive from anywhere. At the very least, you now have a place to backup important data in case the laptop falls into a volcano. Hell, now you've got a reason to subscribe to SelfHosted & HomeLab.

    Reference: 1998-2001 I ran a "dual boot" using removable hard drive bays on a full tower system. As noted above, Windows can sometimes mess up what makes your dual boot possible.

    Currently running Mint on an older HP Envy AMD laptop to get back into the Linux swing. Win10 is my daily driver on the desktop from that need of things to work. When you're fixing other people's/company's computers all day, the last thing you want to do is work on your own computer. That and a lack of real gaming support/documentation forever ago is what pushed me back to Windows. The old argument of "Linux is free" wasn't too heavy a talking point when MS kept giving me free licenses to stick with what I was more comfortable with. Win11 reminds me of Win8, reminds me of WinME, and the cycle of MS dysfunction continues. I want off the ride.

    With Gaming as viable as it is on Linux, plus much nicer tools for VMs (AND Docker exists now), I've got about year to convert my daily driver desktop (2025 end of Win10).

    Oh and I did try to put Arch on that laptop. It was overwritten by Mint as soon as it booted up without a GUI. Now, might of been my fault for using a "base image" or something, but again I need it to just work without spending what limited time I have trying to make it work. But hey, at least folks aren't trying to get you to install Slackware from 3.5" floppies.

    Zetta,

    Maybe invest in an external drive you can copy important files to. Dual booting is usually issue free but it’s always possible to have data loss in general. Data loss, especially data that is personally important to you is a tragedy.

    jul,

    I’m on a single ssd dual boot setup with encryption (LUKS for Linux / Bitlocker for Windows) for over 2 years. Never had any problems.

    I used this guide back then. Hope it’ll help you op.

    const_void,

    Yeah, I’m getting sick of these recommend-a-distro threads

    Mambert, in Looking to switch to Linux in the somewhat distant future

    I’d start with Ubuntu. If there’s any niche software, it will probably run on Ubuntu/debian distros.

    loops,

    Second for Ubuntu. I’ve never felt a need to switch.

    avidamoeba,
    @avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

    For 17 years now… Main machine hasn’t been reinstalled since 2014…

    loops,
    thespezfucker, in Looking to switch to Linux in the somewhat distant future

    Thinking of using Linux mint, anything else?

    entropicdrift,
    @entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    LMDE is also good, just a different version of Mint. Basically works the same.

    PlexSheep,

    I’m currently daily driving LMDE after some time. For OP it probably won’t matter so choosing main line mint might be better.

    Linux Mint all the way.

    Penta,

    Mint is my favourite beginner distro, can’t really go wrong with it. What’s your main use for your PC (gaming, office, development etc.)? There are some distros that are more well suited for certain tasks.

    LesbianLiberty,

    I’ve never used it but that should be fine

    Lord_ToRA, in openSUSE Logo Contest Concludes With Winners Selected
    @Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m surprised they didn’t immediately go with Lizard Humping A Square en.opensuse.org/images/2/25/Oscover.png

    isVeryLoud,

    Missed opportunity 😔

    lapommedeterre,

    It’d be a good browser logo, if it was humping a globe

    Lord_ToRA,
    @Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

    Just like ur mom

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