If you don’t mess with your EFI partitions and your windows partition you’ll be fine. The windows built in partition manager works well and is good enough. If you’re sitting with issues shrinking your partition, use the native Linux partition manager to do it when you boot from the USB. I’m not familiar with Fedora so I won’t be able to help much there. If you do need to use the Fedora partition manager, make sure to disable bitlocker on windows for the drive before you do it. You can just enable it afterwards. Hope it helps!
Love this change. I wonder if I can install a binary-based Gentoo distro and gradually progress from there, if I wanted to, with locally compiled packages that partially replace the binaries. I hope this is not an all-or-nothing situation, so better read the announcement.
“There will probably be an awkward period before all of these pieces are in place for all of the people.”
I think these are the two key takeaways – Wayland is still in development and the bandwagoning are the early adopters – most of us will switch when our distros switch (and will probably be none the wiser)
the problems (and the reason we’re suffering through sensationalist stuff like “Wayland breaks everything!”) is the fanboy push to switch before it’s ready – not everybody lives on the bleeding edge (just like not everyone runs Arch) and the “switch now or be left behind” attitude does more harm than good (far more likely to alienate than convert) …
Wayland is still in development and the bandwagoning are the early adopters
Not to bust your chops but I’m not sure what you’re implying. What isn’t still in development? WordStar? X11? Mac System 7? And Wayland’s initial release was 2008. That’s 15 years ago. Who are these “early adopters” of which you speak anymore?
Many of those things you're thinking of were declared Somebody Else's Problem by said developers. That's fine, but Wayland was not ready for use by normal end users until somebody else did finish them.
From what I hear most of them actually are finished by now, but they weren't as of a couple years ago when it started becoming commonplace to see declarations that the time to switch to Wayland was Right Now. I tried it out then, and am as a result much less enthusiastic about doing it again now even though it'd be much more likely to go well.
There are Gentoo distros that have binary packages, and Funtoo (a Gentoo-based distro that’s 64-bit only) even suggests using Flatpak for certain software that needs 32-bit resources like Steam. Hell, you can install Flatpak on Gentoo if you want. Gentoo also provided binary packages in the past but only for a few packages (mainly web browsers, but annoyingly not qtwebengine. maybe that’s changed here.)
Gentoo is more about having fine-grained control of your system than anything else nowadays. If that’s what you want, go ahead! For most people, Arch or even something with less control like Ubuntu or Fedora will suffice.
It was a mistake to come down from the trees if you ask me. These days there’s even people saying we should of stayed in the water were life was simpler.
Of course there’s the total extremists who think life was better as a single celled microbe. Those people are always hard to talk to.
We should HAVE stayed in the water. The real fringe radicals are those who defend the idea that crystals are alive. I think they’re lesser lifeforms who don’t deserve social security
I’m enthralled by this. It really makes it easier to support other people’s gentoo installations while allowing one to still optimise the ever last drop of life blood out of one’s own packages! Love to see it!
I assume you want disk encryption on Windows which is why you haven’t turned off bitlocker and disabled it in BIOS. I’m not familiar with whole disk encryption on Windows but Linux has many options.
If you’re going to dual boot I would recommend a separate boot partition for GRUB/boot manager that points to the windows boot partition because Windows likes to mess up a shared boot partition.
Honestly I've been away from Windows long enough that it just wasn't a consideration while I was creating the partitions and then the dual boot. I just discovered that it'd happened when I went to access the shared partition in pop and was asked for the password.
I do want to retain a shared data partition between the two OS, however. Obvs the partition for the Window OS itself could remain encrypted, since that doesn't affect pop os. And if it is best practice for system security.
I'll read up that link to see what he has to recommend!
If you don’t need/want Bitlocker simply boot into Windows go into the bitlocker settings and turn off bitlocker (dont use suspend as bitlocker will be re-enabled the next time you boot into Windows). You will need to wait for Bitlocker to decrypt before shutting down - there will be a small status window that appears showing the progress and it shouldn’t take too long.
Thank you! I think part of what I'm curious to hear input on is whether I should disable bitlocker for that shared data partition. Any thoughts? Is it a best practice to have it on?
If you keep Bitlocker enabled on that partition you will have to enter the recovery key everytime you boot into your Linux partition. Since you don’t have that key backed up you’ll need to turn it off and then re-enable it if you wish to continue to use Bitlocker.
If you manually enable bitlocker you will be prompted to back up the key with a few different options: to a file (but if I recall you’ll need to save the file to a drive that isn’t be encrypted by Bitlocker) or to a Microsoft account.
To answer your question regarding best practice, Full Disk Encryption is best practice. Now to achieve that in Windows you use Bitlocker, Linux there is Luks, and macOS has filevault.
If your machine isn’t going anywhere outside your home then it’s not as big of a deal if the drive isn’t encrypted.
Regarding your situation FDE is going to be a bit of a pain whether you use Bitlocker or Luks. I suggest using db2’s suggestion and run a VM creating a shared folder between host and guest. Then you can encrypt the entire drive using the best encryption tool for the host OS (which I suggest be Linux).
Edit: Replaced the ‘b’ with a space between “db2’s” and “suggestion”
I appreciate the additional info. Since I want to make Linux primary (one of my two main points in this little project is getting familiar with Linux!), I'll look into Luks for that partition
The db2 / vm suggestion is a little over my head, currently, but I'll research that as well!
Also, bitlocker is not the only disk encryption software for Windows. It’s just the built in one. If you wanted, you could use something like Veracrypt which is open source and will play nicely with all your OSes.
I’ve been a Gentoo user since 2004 or so and used to crosscompile binaries in like 2006 for all of my systems including some sparc and ppc builds on my main servers. It was glorious. I adore Gentoo for portage and the ability to dream up a set of OS decisions and then actually do it, dog food and all. I’ll probably never not have some form of a Gentoo system within reach but mostly for nostalgic reasons but VMs and containers now fill my needs.
I used arch for a couple years, then crux for over 10 years, so I though Void would be a great distro when the systemd drama occured. Tried that, and noped the hell out of it…
creating/maintaining packages is a pain
the dev team was awful with newcomers
system couldn’t handle more than a couple weeks without updates
it’s an arch wannabe that doesn’t admit it, making it a worse alternative
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