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loo, in Wifi stopped showing in linux mint
@loo@lemmy.world avatar

I have the exact same issue atm. After a new Windows update, I have to disable Wifi on Windows for it to work on Linux. It sounds bizarre, but try disabling Wifi on Windows.

thanksforallthefish, in New Linux user here. Is this really how I'm supposed to install apps on Linux?

While lvxferre’s instructions are the ideal, there’s a simpler option

Download the mullvad.deb file.

Doubleclick on it from your file manager and it should automatically instsll

Every time you start mullvad it will check if the version is current and prompt you (with a link to click on) to upgrade if it’s not.

Note that works on mint, should work on ubuntu unless they’ve disabled dpkg

where_am_i,

No, don’t. Bad advise. Use repos that are provided.

library_napper,
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

You might want to say why or you’ll get downvoted. Spoiler: its not safe and this is how you get malicious software on your computer

Vincent, in New Linux user here. Is this really how I'm supposed to install apps on Linux?

Also note that Mullvad has a pretty technical user base and target audience, and thus their documentation is likely geared towards them. You could also consider using Mozilla VPN, which offers pretty much the same advantages (they use Mullvad’s servers), at the same price if you pay annually, and is easier to use.

Critical_Insight,

I’m already paying for Mullvad

Vincent,

Heh, that’s another reason not to switch - never mind then!

Vincent, (edited )

Oh actually, looking at the Ubuntu installation docs, that doesn’t really seem to be much easier - that’s a disappointment :/

Although if you don’t mind running one terminal command (specifically, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillacorp/mozillavpn), I think after that you should just be able to use the Ubuntu App Center to install software - which usually is the way to install software in Ubuntu, and works similar to app stores on phones.

where_am_i,

it’s just a fuckin step by step guide on how to add their repo to the sources.list

What’s so technical about it? It’s how you install everything on Ubuntu.

No knowing how apt works, is equivalent to not understanding why grandma_pics.zip.exe is probably a virus. If you’re that uninformed, we can’t help you.

Ramin_HAL9001, (edited ) in New Linux user here. Is this really how I'm supposed to install apps on Linux?

So usually people do install Linux software from trusted software repositories. Linux practically invented the idea of the app store a full ten years before the first iPhone came out and popularized the term “app.”

The problem with the Mullvad VPN is that their app is not in the trusted software repositories of most Linux distributions. So you are required to go through a few extra steps to first trust the Mullvad software repositories, and then install their VPN app the usual way using apt install or from the software center.

You could just download the “.deb” file and double click on it, but you will have to download and install all software security updates by hand. By going through the extra steps to add Mullvad to your trusted software repository list, you will get software security updates automatically whenever you install all other software updates on your computer.

Most Linux distros don’t bother to make it easy for you to add other trusted software repositories because it can be a major security risk if you trust the wrong people. So I suppose it is for the best that the easiest way to install third-party software is to follow the steps you saw on the website.

narc0tic_bird,

Some .deb packages actually include their repository and they can then be updated via the package manager. An example for this is the Vivaldi .deb.

wuphysics87, in New Linux user here. Is this really how I'm supposed to install apps on Linux?

Not at my computer, but you might check if there is a snap or flatpak

Darkpepito_tux,
@Darkpepito_tux@lemmy.world avatar

(flatpak only :p )

where_am_i,

snap yourself in half

Kierunkowy74, in New Linux user here. Is this really how I'm supposed to install apps on Linux?
@Kierunkowy74@kbin.social avatar

Change your distribution to MX Linux and use MX Package Installer there. Select Mullvad VPN from "Popular Apps" tab there and MXPI will do all these steps for you.

fckgwrhqq2yxrkt,

Probably easier to learn a few commands than it is to switch distros though.

urfavlaura, in What are your opinions of Guix?

It’s like Nix but has some extra features and uses Scheme instead of a custom language.

CanadaPlus, (edited )

That’s barely an opinion, haha! That’s pretty much just what it is.

http_418, in Terminal Utility Mega list!
@http_418@lemmy.world avatar

Very well done list … Thx fellow penguin

pelya, in New Linux user here. Is this really how I'm supposed to install apps on Linux?

That’s not how you do it.

Click ‘Downloads’ on the Mullvad website.

Scroll to the bottom section ‘Unable to use the app’

Click ‘OpenVPN’.

Download OpenVPN config.

You already have OpenVPN installed, skip all fancy installation steps.

Click network settings in the taskbar, ‘New connection’, ‘OpenVPN’, ‘Import configuration’.

Turn on your new VPN connection. Done.

where_am_i,

why tf wouldn’t OP be better served by a provided repo? Literally a add it to the sources.list and never think about updates again.

pelya,

Because installing some random app is worse than simply using pre-installed system service.

Both are security audited, but I’d still rather trust OpenVPN.

eah,

It seems Mullvad has the OpenVPN option tucked away as the very last option even though OpenVPN seems to be the easiest method. Why is that?

Divine_Confetti,
@Divine_Confetti@sh.itjust.works avatar

As I’ve heard it, wireguard is much more secure.

library_napper,
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

More Performant, yes. More Secure? Not sure about that

pelya,

I went with OpenVPN because it’s installed on Ubuntu by default. Wireguard needs one extra apt-get command.

I don’t think that Wireguard is more secure, its’s simpler and thus easier to audit, but OpenVPN was audited to the gills already.

amju_wolf,
@amju_wolf@pawb.social avatar

Because they want to lock you into their app and make you think VPNs are complicated so you actually pay for the service.

pelya,

Because OpenVPN lacks the most important feature of them all - it will not remind you to top up your account balance.

reallyzen,
@reallyzen@lemmy.ml avatar

THIS!

Not one more repository to add, sign, reload at each update. And can get compromised.

Not one more piece of software to run that may, or may not, run properly (looking at you ProtonVPN)

Just download the wireguard or openvpn configs to some desired exit points, load them into NetworkManager as described, and BINGO you have an integrated way of switching desired location, a visual icon in the taskbar confirming your status, and no extra hassle.

Did you know that qbittorrent can be told to only work if the VPN is on? There are places where it matters.

And to answer your question, no, that is not normal. If a piece of software isn’t available for your distribution, then consider finding another. Like, here, using NetworkManager to do the job!

stepanzak, in Terminal Utility Mega list!

Trashy is another rm command that sends files to trash that I really like. They recently fixed zsh completions bug, but maybe only in the latest git version. It’s also written in rust.

Steamymoomilk,

added and looks rather usr friendly

4z01235, in I have started using fedora silverblue

OK

desentizised, in New Linux user here. Is this really how I'm supposed to install apps on Linux?

If Mullvad is not available as a Snap or Flatpak (2 ways of installing self-sufficient auto-updateable packages without dependencies on other packages) then youre probably stuck with either adding this 3rd party repository (something which isn’t always recommendable either) which gives you automatic updates or using a .deb installation file like you would probably prefer and then manually retrieving updates when needed.

Anyways, others have told you as much already anyways. What I’d like to add is that it is definitely worth it to learn to work the terminal. I get that there are many people looking for an alternative to Windows or just an open approach to computing in general without looking for added complexity. Who wants complexity right? Whether such an experience exists in the Linux world is probably subjective. Ubuntu has definitely been a safe bet for the flattest learning curve required since its inception in 2004. But its still a niche thing that won’t experience user-friendly support from everyone (ie Mullvad).

So one could conclude that in order to truly be “free” (as in Free Software freedom) one needs to claim that freedom. You will fuck things up. You will learn from your mistakes. You will regroup and you will grow as a user and dare I say PC-curious person.

juli, in I have started using fedora silverblue

What do you mean ublue has flstpak included in the image?

kionite231,

I mean flatpak binary. Other people have mentioned that it’s already included in fedora silverblue. I didn’t know that.

uzay,

I mean, it’s the main way of installing software in immutable Fedora distributions, so it would be very surprising if it wasn’t preinstalled.

Lettuceeatlettuce, in I have started using fedora silverblue
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

I need to play around with Silverblue and other immutable distros. Been considering them for a family member that is interested in switching to Linux.

Glad it’s been good to you so far!

Unmapped, (edited ) in I have started using fedora silverblue

Doesn’t normal Fedora silverblue already have flatpak? Why did you have to rebase to ublue for flatpak?

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