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bazsy, in Help on BTRFS setup

Do I need to disable compression on my swap subvolume?

Short: No

Long: it doesn’t matter when mounting multiple subvolumes of the same btrfs partition the options from the first one (usually /) will apply to all. So even if you disable it, that will be ignored.

The old way of creating swap shows the chattr +C line which disables CoW. The same method should work for your Downloads folder since CoW is needed for snapshotting.

risencode, in I have started using fedora silverblue

Okay, thanks for your blog post buddy 👍

itsralC,

Thanks for your positivity bro, don’t see that often around here

AbsoluteChicagoDog, in New Linux user here. Is this really how I'm supposed to install apps on Linux?

The comment section here is a perfect example of why people don’t use Linux

csm10495,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

+1 there is something nice about just downloading and double clicking an exe.

Maybe they should have a common file format for all distro that extracts, etc. for the current distro. I thought that was flatpak, but idk.

bjwest,

They have the .deb at the top of their download page, no need to install the PPA repository if you don’t want. You can’t get any more than “just downloading and double clicking an exe deb” than that on Ubuntu.

I will admit though, I wish there were an easier way to install PPAs.

sailingbythelee,

You got that right. So many contradictory comments for such a simple question.

That said, Linux for home use is a hobby and hobbyists expect a certain level of interest and basic commitment to learning. Also, the Linux community is a bit anti-Windows. So, coming on a Linux forum and complaining that a simple Linux task is too hard, basically because it isn’t Windows and you didn’t bother to read any documentation, pushes ALL the Linux nerd buttons, LOL.

Imagine going on a boardgame forum to complain that some super popular game is dumb because it isn’t like a video game, and too complicated even though you didn’t bother to read the game rules.

AbsoluteChicagoDog,

As a board game hobbyist, that happens all the time. Our community generally makes an effort to direct them to games with a lower weight and easier rules and encourages them to keep playing to grow the hobby.

That’s not at all what happens with Linux.

mr_pip,
@mr_pip@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Can you recommend any good forums to look for board games?

AbsoluteChicagoDog,

BGG is all you need

sailingbythelee,

Don’t they just make a joke about Patchwork and move on?

IrritableOcelot, in Scribus 1.6 Open-Source Desktop Publishing App Released as a Major Update

This seems interesting and it seems like a big update. Has anyone used this for print media formatting? Can you speak to how well it works, how easy it is to use, and what it’s like to switch if you’re coming from Publisher or InDesign?

spacecow,

I mostly use it to make my resume. It works well for that, but feel like it would be annoying to make a large document using it.

cygnus, (edited )
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

I tried it years ago and it felt more like Quark to me (not a compliment) but should give it another chance. For the past several years I’ve been using Affinity Publisher in a Windows VM.

Edit: just tried it out a bit (ver. 1.5.8 because that’s what’s in the Arch repo) and it’s better than I remembered. Adobe-like shortcuts. I made a new document and created a few text styles.

clb92,

I’ve previously used versions 1.4.* and 1.5.* quite a bit for print, because I’m a one-man marketing department in a tiny company.

Scribus was (is?) somewhat finicky and cumbersome to work with. It had certain quirks and workarounds you had to learn to deal with. It lacked many creative features you find in bigger suites. I didn’t feel like I worked quickly and efficiently in it. BUT I got my work done in it nevertheless, and I really appreciate that it exists for the people that simply can’t afford the alternatives.

Nowadays I use the Affinity suite, which includes Affinity Publisher, a competitor to InDesign. It’s quite affordable and not subscription-based.

jlow,

Used Adobe for years, made an effort in the last year to switch to FOSS, mainly Inkscape and Scribus. And yes, as other comments have mentioned these tools have some weird quirks and some things don’t work. But that’s the same for Adobe and most other software. I remember switching from Macromedia Freehand (lol, remember that) to Illustrator back in the day and everything felt just wrong and awful in tge beginning (until you learned to work around the quirks?). It’s super hard to tell how much it’s “Software Bad” vs “Not Used to New Thing” and this will be different for everybody as well. But nobody (including the software) is stopping you from using this professionally, I just finished a 20 page PDF for a client with Scribus, used it to print my 32 page comic etc.

dejected_warp_core, (edited ) in Thoughts on this?

TL;DR: the author needs to do a better job of citing sources and building an argument.

The author’s argument from self-appointed authority tone aside, I dug into the only two verifiable pieces of evidence cited. These are almost impenetrable to the outsider, and even with plenty of coding experience behind me, I’m having to go deep to make sense of any of it. After all, sometimes, bugs and design decisions are the result of a best effort in the situation at hand and not necessarily evidence of negligence, incompetence, or bad architecture. There’s also something to be said for organizing labor, focusing effort on what matters, and triaging the backlog.

The original author really needs to pony up a deeper digest of the project, with many more verifiable links to back up the various quality claims. If anyone is going to take this seriously, a proper postmortem is a better way to go. Cite the version reviewed, link to every flaw you can find, suggest ways to improve things, and keep it blameless. Instead, this reads like cherry picking two whole things on the public bug tracker and then making unsubstantiated claims that’s a part of a bigger pattern.

My personal take on what was cited:

  1. I’m grossly unqualified to assess this codebase as a Wayland or GUI programmer, but work plenty in the Linux space as a cloud practitioner and shell coder.
  2. The first article smells like inadequate QA for cases like placing Wayland programs in the background, which is not typically done for GUI apps under normal usage (IMO).
  3. The second article is a two-line change that I suppose highlights how ill-suited C is for this kind of software. Developer chatter on the MR suggests that the internal API could use some safeguards and sanity checks.
  4. 162 open issues, 259 closed, oldest still open is five years old. Not great, but not terrible.
  5. None of this is particularly egregious, considering the age of the project and the use it enjoys today.

Links:

PrefersAwkward, (edited )
@PrefersAwkward@lemmy.world avatar

You aired my frustrations really well. He spent a lot more time making claims and discussing his own background than demonstrating Wayland’s alleged issues and showing that they’re egregious. It’s an entertaining rant at best, but that doesn’t make his points valid nor does it make anything actionable.

pingveno, in Linux reaches new high 3.82%

Okay, I guess I’ll say it. Year of Linux Desktop!

bigkahuna1986,

Next year is the year of IPv6!

misophist,

I wish! I’ve got the hardware to support it, but neither of the two ISPs available at my house support IPv6.

henfredemars,

Could be worse. My ISP has a broken implementation.

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

my isp supports ipv6 but disables it in openwrt config.
i found a way to get root access to it and re-enabled it, seems to work just fine. the configuration is kinda fucked up but kinda works (dhcpv6, no slaac)

NegativeInf,

Every year from now until the end of time.

PenguinLover,
@PenguinLover@lemmy.ml avatar

So every year till 2038. XD

explanation

pingveno,

I will never get tired of Year of Linux Desktopping!

simple,
@simple@lemmy.world avatar

Whew, I was getting worried we were one day into 2024 and nobody said this yet.

HouseWolf,

Gotta keep the party going!

independantiste, in Linux reaches new high 3.82%
@independantiste@sh.itjust.works avatar

Wowzer, ok, that’s seriously impressive though, like in 2022 I feel we were stuck at 2-2.5% and in 2023 we passed 3% for the first time and now we’re at almost 4??? That’s like DOUBLING the market share in a year

balancedchaos,

I was thinking the same thing. We’ve actually surpassed Apple on desktop. I know we’re gonna laughingly say “year of the Linux desktop,” but we have to honestly look how far we’ve come in a relatively short time.

jack,

It only took 40 years :')

kusivittula,

mac has over 16% though, we still aren’t even close

balancedchaos,

You’re actually 100% right. I don’t know what figure I was thinking of, but you’re just right.

RiderExMachina,

You might have been thinking Steam gaming. Mac was at ~5% and has dropped to ~2%

balancedchaos,

That is likely it. Okay, thank you.

indigomirage, in Linux reaches new high 3.82%

This is very good. The higher those numbers go, the more pressure there will be for better official support for both HW and SW.

FOSS is fantastic. But lack of options (FOSS or paid) for a few of my use cases keeps me stapled to Windows and WSL. Unfortunately. I’m hoping the momentum shifts.

jack,

FOSS or paid?

mexicancartel,

FOSS or paid

I hope you know the difference between Free(Libre) and Free(gratis)

indigomirage, (edited )

I suppose what I mean is that i am happy to select whatever software is best for the task at hand. I have no issue with paying for software if it serves my needs. In a few cases, that limits my options to running windows as commercial versions are unavailable on Linux, and it is my hope that more commercial orgs start making their wares available for Linux, especially in cases where there’s no available alternative.

As for splitting hairs on the difference between gratis and libre, life’s too short (so if I used incorrect terminology, c’est la vie…)

mexicancartel, (edited )

I guess you don’t know its difference.

Free software means freedom and not the price. There are paid free software.

By defenition, free software is software that satisfy 4 essential freedoms

Freedom 0: Freedom to run the program any way you want on any of your devices

Freedom 1: To see and study how the program works and change it according to your needs. Source code of the entire program should be visible for this freedom

Freedom 2: Freedom to share copies of the original program(sharing is caring)

Freedom 3: Freedom to share copies of the modified version which you adapted to your needs such that whole community can benefit from your modifications

So yeah this is Free software, and when you say FOSS, its not about the price, but the freedom and control you get with the software. Why is this important? Because theese non-free softwares are taking away our freedom by even limiting “us” from using our “own” devices(DRM, locked bootloader, etc.), and it will be too late to realise how most proprietary softwares we use, and ones we are forced to use, captures our freedom.

PopOfAfrica,

If literally any Adobe competitor released a product for Linux they’d dominate that niche.

joojmachine,

It really depends, but some tools would really do that. DaVinci Resolve, for example, has a pretty bad Linux distribution support and format, all things considered, and it’s still the go-to video editor for Linux users, despite all of the issues.

indigomirage, (edited )

Kdenlive and shotcut are also great.

joojmachine,

They really are, but still leagues behind the features (and online learning material) compared to Resolve. I love both of them, but still, when I need to get to work with video, I still prefer to deal with Resolve’s limitations than to deal with Kdenlive or Shotcut.

indigomirage,

Fair enough! My only work with video has been very lightweight stuff and I haven’t needed much else. Shotcut definitely has quirks, though I know it a lot better than kdenlive. Have not played enough with Resolve to comment, though I have it on my list to try when the opportunity presents itself.

possiblylinux127,

gimp noises

TheGrandNagus, (edited )

I appreciate GIMP but nah, it’s objectively inferior to Photoshop by a long shot and development is really slow. I mean they’ve only just got to GTK 3.

It’s comparatively difficult to use.

Plus they insist on sticking to that infantile name. I don’t know how they’re expecting to get industry support with a name like that.

Don’t get me wrong I use it every once in a while but damn they’re so far behind it’s a joke. And the worst part is they seemingly don’t want the project to advance.

PopOfAfrica,

I say this as a foss proponent… gimp sucks ass.

Now, Inkscape is Goat, but Gimp is nigh unusable.

indigomirage,

There are lots of individual applications that do pretty well in and of themselves (darktable, gimp, krita, etc.) they have varying degrees of niceness. But what Adobe can do has no analogue in Linux land (paid or not) - it’s the multi-device interoperability. It makes for unparalleled workflow. I am not an advocate your Adobe - I really wish there was someone else that did it, and I believe it is something worth paying for. Figma maybe? (but it’s all cloud and was nearly knocked out by Adobe…)

(FWIW, I’ve never found gimp to be pleasant to use, but that is only my own subjective experience. Others like it and that’s a good thing.)

possiblylinux127,

When was the last time you used it? The newer versions are better and with Gimp 3 there will be many improvements.

PopOfAfrica,

A month ago. Still crap then

Spectacle8011,
@Spectacle8011@lemmy.comfysnug.space avatar

Stable or development branch?

possiblylinux127, (edited )

I guess that’s fair. It works fine for me when I use it occasionally.

shredderdoitbetta,
@shredderdoitbetta@lemmy.world avatar

That name though

indigomirage,

I tend to agree. And people need to realize that Adobe’s secret sauce is not in their apps, it’s in the multi-device interoperability. I love lightroom, but it’s not the photo editing ability (darkroom has that), rather it’s the fact that I can seamlessly work the same catalogue from any device (even if I don’t use their cloud for anything but smart previews).

I think Adobe would cash in if they supported Linux - for want of a workable alternative, I’d even pay them.

Music device manufacturers need to support Linux too. NI Maschine (and others) is simply a non-starter…

velox_vulnus, (edited ) in Linux reaches new high 3.82%

India, Greenland, Greece and Turkey are the four countries with the fastest growth of Linux users. I’ve checked their neighbouring countries, and it looks like they are still in the 1-2% range.

WeLoveCastingSpellz, (edited )

Hi from Turkey, We have nore linux users than MacOS users and I tell everyone I know to switch like the foss evangelist I am

ininewcrow, (edited )
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

India is the eye opener … an enormous market of 1.5 billion people and the majority of them are too poor to pay for any specialty OS … it’s going to turn into a futuristic dystopia down there … people living in slums but scrounging up old neglected and forgotten hardware to bring them back online with Open Source Software.

Edit: I don’t normally make big corrections or changes to my comments but after rereading this, I think I went a bit too far with my assumptions about another country and culture … thanks @embed_me for putting it to my attention

emergencyfood,

Indian here. The reason isn’t Windows’ price tag - pirated Windows is very cheap and common - but a government push to make us less dependent on foreign (i.e. US / Chinese) companies. Schools, government offices, hospitals etc. have shifted to, or are shifting to, Linux (mostly Ubuntu and Mint). This shift started over a decade ago, but the US sanctions on Russia have spooked the government into speeding things up now.

demonsword,
@demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

an enormous market of 1.5 billion people and the majority of them are too poor to pay for any specialty OS

piracy is still a thing, though

embed_me,
@embed_me@programming.dev avatar

Ok as an Indian allow me to interject. The reason people use linux is not because of poverty. Even the cheapest laptops come preloaded with activated windows.

We get introduced to Linux based OSs in schools. That plus people are heavily pushed into engineering and lately computer science and software engineering.

jol,

Most people in software around me in Europe are moving to OSX for the convenience and better hardware. How does it look like in India?

embed_me,
@embed_me@programming.dev avatar

Honestly I’m a little surprised it’s so low relative to linux. It definitely has a strong presence. I’m thinking it won’t be as popular because of the lower cost to value ratio

CrypticCoffee,

That sounds like a great education setup. Hope we mirror that in the west.

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

I was probably too hasty in my assumptions … simplistic, stereotypical maybe even a bit racist

I just thought it made economic sense … why build an entire economy or business using foreign owned software and basing it all on a foreign company, especially one with unknown loopholes that would put the company’s and country at risk by a foreign power.

Thanks for the correction and insight … I’ll be more careful about my assumptions in the future.

embed_me, (edited )
@embed_me@programming.dev avatar

Thanks for acknowledging it.

Also another thing you are wrong about: You may be surprised to know that the second hand market for computer electronics is non-existent. As far as I know, there are only a handful of cities in the whole country where there is a second hand local market. Cheap electronics don’t last that much and in laptops there are only so many components you can buy separately and install. (Overwhelming majority of the computers are laptops, not the traditional CPU towers)

Also another thing I failed to mention is, the government tried to make a distro for govt use at one point but idk if anything came out of that. But I want to say there’s definitely a growing presence of linux here

mexicancartel,

Are you from kerala?

embed_me,
@embed_me@programming.dev avatar

No. What prompted such a random guess?

mexicancartel,

It was not so common to use linux in schools in other states and in kerala, all government schools use a Kite Ubuntu which is fork of lts ubuntu. Its like the law to use free software for education in kerala. Me also got introduced to linux from school so i expected you are from kerala too. And Free software is most popular in kerala afaik.

The intensity of free software user group in kerala shows it too fsug.in

embed_me, (edited )
@embed_me@programming.dev avatar

Oh. I studied under a Gujarat board school. We had mint in our computer labs and textbooks 8 years ago. Idk what they’re now

Ramin_HAL9001, in Linux reaches new high 3.82%

I wonder if that dip in Windows in April, going down to like 62%, and the correlated boost for “Uknown” operating systems to 13% might somehow simply be Windows not being recognized properly and categorized as unknown?

It seems a bit far-fetched to me that a bunch of Windows users would for 1 month suddenly all decide to use ReactOS, FreeDOS, BSD, Solaris, Illumos, Haiku, Redox, and Plan 9.

mexicancartel,

Yeah probably some chrome update which made statscounter to fail to determine the OS, probably

PuddingFeeling907, in Linux reaches new high 3.82%
@PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca avatar

Let’s go! It’s always great to see people wrestle control back from the corporations.

BlanK0, in Thoughts on this?

I have been using Wayland on void for a while and have no particular issue with it. There is screen sharing on stuff like zoom that isn’t working at the moment (unless you use gnome) which is a bit annoying but not really serious enough to force a change to xorg. Also Wayland has more clean code then xorg and I do like the potential it has, specially when it comes to security.

Nothing against xorg, if you can use Wayland its better imo but otherwise xorg is fine as well.

SnotFlickerman, in Linux reaches new high 3.82%
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

gs.statcounter.com/faq#methodology

Considering their methodology, I wonder how many of these are Steam Decks registering as “desktops” when they visit a website in the web broweser?

Fizz, (edited )
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

I would consider the steamdeck to be a linux desktop if someone is browsing the internet on it.

SnotFlickerman, (edited )
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I agree, but it’s definitely marketed as a gaming console of a sort, and not really marketed as a full-fledged PC.

So, imho, that technically skewers the numbers a bit, as it’s not a “desktop” in the traditional sense.

I mean, I’m still not calling 2023 the “Year of the Linux Desktop.” I’m calling it the “Year of the Portable Linux Gaming Console.”

The growth in percentage in Linux in Steam metrics is almost entirely because the Steam Deck.

Mouette,

You cant be sure, Valve pushing Steam Deck and Proton is what made me switch to Linux as lot of games now works but I haven’t bought a Steam deck

tsl,
@tsl@lemmy.stefanoprenna.com avatar

As stated from official Valve’s page www.steamdeck.com/en/oled

“Use your Deck as a PC, because it is one.” So Valve did market it as a PC and it’s one of the reasons I bought one more than a year ago. And it’s really my desktop (that I bring with me to places occasionally)c

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

When you are using the steamdeck in handheld mode there is no web browser unless configured from desktop mode. The desktop on the steamdeck is no different to my computer therefore I don’t think it’s fair to wave it off as a console. It’s far closer to a pc than a console.

SnotFlickerman, (edited )
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It’s far closer to a pc than a console.

Ehhh, you have to spend money on a decent dock to be able to use it with any consistency as a desktop. Sure, software-wise, it’s not a console, it plays PC games.

However, it’s physical form factor is a console. It looks and functions out of the box far more like a Nintendo Switch than a IBM ThinkPad.

It’s literally a gamepad with a screen and no keyboard or mouse. So despite being a PC platform, I would still consider this a “console,” based on outward-facing form factor alone, personally.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

That’s a fair point. Since we are talking about linux os share, the software that’s running on the device is more important to me than the form factor. What’s running on my steamdeck is so close to what’s running on my desktop pc that when I’m browsing the web on my steamdeck I’d consider myself browsing on linux rather than browsing on specifcally steam os.

silvercove,

Which is still good.

irmoz, in Linux reaches new high 3.82%

What happened March-May?

MushuChupacabra, in Linux reaches new high 3.82%
@MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world avatar

I just ditched my old Windows 10 PC for a raspberry pi 5, and am running KDE Plasma.

It’s refreshing to have an operating system that doesn’t suggestive sell to me.

possiblylinux127,

That seems like a odd choice. Raspberry pis are limited and require the raspberry pi kernel and proprietary binaries.

Couldn’t you have just install Linux mint on your PC and called it a day? It would likely have better performance.

MushuChupacabra,
@MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world avatar

It was a specific choice. My PC is a little long in the tooth, sucks power, and is overly loud for where it was situated.

The pi is doing fine for my relatively non-demanding usage. If I do set up the old PC again, I’ll probably wind up installing Mint or something, rather than buy upgrades and crap to support Windows 11.

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