I’ve recently switched to Nobara, and has been unsure whether to go with Wayland or X11. Mostly because I’ve read that Wayland has issues on NVIDIA GPUs and will perform slower, so I went with X11 (On KDE). Is that still the case nowadays, or can I just use Wayland?
Afaik the Nvidia issues are pretty much resolved now, though it may depend on exactly which GPU you use.
It’s definitely worth using Wayland if it’s not having issues, and switching back is absurdly easy, so I’d recommend using Wayland and going back to X if you’re encountering issues.
Tldr: it’ll probably be fine, give it a go and see
quit fucking saying that! I still get random flickering on the desktop and flickering in games on a 1080. X11 is the only thing that lets me actually play games onmhe thing
I’m running Hyprland on my Intel laptop without any issues (but I’m doing not much multimedia on it). But on my Nvidia desktop, oh no. Screen recording is flakey (especially with multiple sources and audio recording to different channels) in OBS, video editing impossible due to heavy UI flickering, gaming has worse performance, watching YouTube has noticable lag.
For just opening your browser and doing non-multimedia stuff it’s fine I guess.
I have no issues with OBS, although I only use it for screen recording. It is my work machine (I’m a dev) but also game on it regularly without any problems. What kind of card do you have?
Maybe for you. Kernel 6.6, Nvidia driver 545 (also tried 535), RTX 3080, GNOME or KDE Plasma, two WQHD 165 Hz monitors. Got flickers in certain applications (for example Steam or some Electron apps), apparently related to how long they need to draw.
Along with Baldur’s Gate Vulkan API halving FPS compared to Windows/AMD on Linux, or getting black models in DX11 (DXVK), certain games straight up flickering or showing other glitches.
YMMV of course, but I find it hard to believe people have literally zero issues unless they have a very limited use case for their system.
I switched to AMD for Linux and while it’s not perfect either, it’s so much better.
I’m using hyprland which adds another layer of instability as hyprland itsself can be ropey with Nvidia
Even with gnome Wayland I have had a number of issues though, electron stuff is dodgy at best, hibernation doesn’t work (might not be Wayland specific)
Applications don’t resize properly sometimes and crash more often
I think it entirely depends on your setup, I’ve had separate issues with Nvidia Wayland across my PC and laptop
I really liked awesomewm back in the day. Though everything was configured by arco Linux (arch fork), so have to idea how easy it is to get your configs up and running like in hyprland.
My personal favourite is qtile and it’s been my main WM for a long time. I3 is another good option. Wayland experience looks to vary from the other comments, but if you do use qtile and wanted to try wayland, you can get it to run using it (although I’ve never tried it myself).
Depends on what your using it for? For 3d printers I like FreeCAD. Though it has a bit of an initial learning curve. It has a lot of functionally. SolveSpace was pretty good but I had some trouble with fillets and things. Might have been user errors… I havent used blender much but heard its good for more artistic modeling for games and videos. Not sure if it would work good for 3d parts? Anyone use it for that?
I tried I3 but it seems the new window always appears in a vertical slice, maybe some people like that so windows are set manually. I prefer automatic tiling, I use Bspwm for that. It needs two config files but they are simple, no programming is required. Its way to split screen is almost always good. In the rare exceptions I add a rule in the main config file so the app appears in a floating window.
In a word - yes - i3 is incredibly productive and customizable, but it’s not for everyone. I’ve been using i3 with no DE or DM for about a decade. Every time I try to use a full DE like KDE, Gnome, etc, it’s just so slow and bloated, and gets in the way. And there’s 100’s of extra packages that get installed, and be updated, that I don’t use. I don’t need anything but terminals (of which I have about 40 open in 12 different virtual desktops), a browser, and an editor when vim isn’t enough. So for me, it’s perfect and simple. I don’t know what will happen when Wayland finally wins, but that’s 5-10 years away before it really wins.
I definitely do feel i3 is the easiest to understand and get into. I remember when I first started using Linux I tried awesomewm and icewm but was so confused. i3 made sense tho
It’s a good question - I don’t know, because I haven’t used it. If it’s 100% compatible with i3 down to its configuration and features, then sure, it’s palatable.
When Wayland is eventually ready, I will personaly look into river. At least that’s what I would do now but no doubts that by the time everybody move to Wayland there will be way more options to consider. Hopefully one will be a good replacement for bspwm.
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