I actually installed 39 fresh on a asus gaming laptop and while before I had issues with multiple drivers not working correctly, this time it was incredibly painless and I haven’t has any issues with it.
I bought a System76 Darter a few months ago, it had problems with the screen brightness controls and external displays on Pop_OS. Installing 39 has been a breeze with everythibg just working so far.
I was just trying to boot it up on bare metal yesterday, on an AMD Phenom II machine but Kernel Panic’d on not finding a device to boot from, which was a bit puzzling. Unfortunately had no time to investigate, but I won’t give up, I make it boot somehow on that PC.
There’s nothing like that is enabled AFAIK, I"m not even sure this board has UEFI (only Legacy BIOS). It’s an Acer Veriton M421G brand PC, with a Phenom II X4 945 CPU.
Not even sure it’s compatible with the OS, but this boot device issue was strange, tho. (had the same problem booting up a partition manager software from floppy that is based on Visopsys)
But will double check everything. Thanks for the tip!
I dd-ed the image straight to the HDD. grub started and booted off from it. lots of messages of PCI devices, I guess some kind of scan. after a while the screen went white, and a bit later the logs of the kernel panic appeared at the top, with the message it could’t find a device to boot from.
so, it seems that the kernel itself didn’t see the hdd it just booted from - standard IDE PATA disk, 120GB. Used dd from a gparted live disc.
First, I resized the partition on the disk to the full, at the next try I left it, as-is.
Both times the same result; the BIOS boots into Serenity, white screen, then kernel panic, couldn’t find a device to boot from.
Thing is, there are 2 DVD drives (IDE and SATA) and a floppy drive attached to the PC, dunno if they can cause any problem. And 1GB memory.
this was yesterday, and since then I haven’t got tieme to fiddle with it, but will. :)
At the weekend I’ll have some time to fiddle with it.
I think I’ll try to boot Serenity first from USB, check if it wants to boot at all. Maybe I’ll got an Arduino to use as serial monitor to check the log.
Then move on to flashing the grub image to the HDD, again, with a different IDE drive. if thst doesn’t work, I’ll find a SATA HDD and flash that.
I really wanna see this OS boot on real hardware. Then take a good lookaround and develop or port something for it :)
you might want to maybe try a different distro image to verify, maybe a simple kernel with a net image or something.
This part actually makes me wonder… Do you think SerenityOS uses the Linux kernel? Because it does not, it’s its own completely separate thing. And the hardware support for anything other than the standard emulated machine is very iffy, so it doesn’t seem too surprising that it would get tripped up by something on an old computer.
If anything went wrong with its USB stack for example, the kernel would have no way to find the root filesystem that’s stored on a USB drive.
To be fair, fedora 38 is already on the latest version of KDE Plasma unlike with gnome. I’m sure once we get Plasma 6 we’ll see the fedora spin support it not long after.
Counterpoint: All the hardware and software with broken official linux support with the justification of “linux users can fix it themselves they’re used to it”.
I don’t think that is how these programs work. Community made lists an Wikis, yes. But this requires some corporate contracts, money being paid and some laptop samples being send to a laboratory where they will be kept for years and continuously tested for years. I suppose it’s going to be quite pricey and no-one will do that to a random windows laptop. Unless someone says I’m going to buy 7000 of those if they have that ‘certified’ sticker on them.
But I get how a company like Sytem76 would say, we won’t pay for that, we have Linux in our name and are just selling to consumers.
This certification program is for big companies that have requirements and contracts. They need to buy certified stuff. It’s not meant for consumers or small companies at all. That’s also why the featured laptops are a shiny Dell XPS 13 and a Thinkpad P16. Something you’d find at work.
Well more than half of that list is Dell products. Followed by some Lenovo and HP. That’s it. (except for servers.)
When I bought a system76, I didn’t think for a second to check whether it was on Canonical’s list. I didn’t even know there was a certification.
So I believe the poster meant, a buyer can be sure they are getting hardware with linux support regardless of a list kept by ubuntu. But if you are buying from a brand that has no pledge to be linux friendly, a list of what works out of what’s available helps.
Now KDE needs to implement a consistent design language for its apps, clean up its settings, and have better defaults. Not asking KDE to copy Gnome, just that it needs a lot more work to be palletable to someone using it for the first time.
As KDE F38 user, this is a super boring release. Nothing noteworthy for us to look forward to except LibreOffice 7.6 - which you can get via Flatpak anyways. I was hoping the new DNF 5 would make the cut, but guess it’s still not ready yet. :(
Guess will have to hold out my excitement until F40 for Plasma 6 and DNF 5 (hopefully).
I thought dnf 5 wont come with fedora 40 because that coincides with the next RHEL release so they want both of them to ship the stable and tested dnf version.
Same here. Ubuntu almost made me believe that linux is a pain in the ass to use and you need to fix some shit after every update.
Now I use arch and it’s great. Nvidia is very annoying because they constantly publish drivers that break things, but you can just roll those back and wait until they fix it again. And that gets worse as GPUs age. Apart from nvidia, I’ve had exactly one update issue (telepathy-kde being removed and causing the pacman dependency resolver to get confused) that was fixed in about 2 minutes of googling.
My biggest complains with Ubuntu lately are Firefox is a snap package and when it updates it yells at me to close Firefox so it can update it and if I wait too long it forces the it closed, and it gives me countdown notifications. Annoying and something out of Windows 10 forced reboot type shit. The other is the automatic apr upgrades break cuda/nvidia drivers forcing me to reboot the whole system. Pain in the ass.
It’ll boot right into a fully functional Gnome desktop and hardly anything else. The only extra software this installs are yelp, gnome-shell-extension-prefs and network-manager-gnome. Uninstall them with sudo apt purge and sudo apt autoremove --purge if you don’t need them. sudo apt install cups if you need printing and remove your wifi device from /etc/network/devices to let network-manager-gnome handle wifi if you use it.
The way I setup my minimal systems is to uncheck everything during tasksel, then switch to another virtual console, chroot to /target and install what I need. Saves one reboot and hassles, when installing via thump drive. (Did this for Xfce in the past.)
I totally love the idea of Fedora Silverblue and UBlue. Played around with Silverblue and perhaps it will replace my Debian installation on my multi media laptop. Still, no substitute for Debian since the kernel is too new/fast changing (problems with VM and I don’t want to pin an old kernel w/o security updates forever) and I have a very custom (but fully automated) setup via Ansible, which wouldn’t work like this on Silverblue. (I would have to use Ansible for the host and then create a lot of custom containers, to the best of my understanding.)
Whatever the actual numbers, it is not unrealistic that Linux will emerge as the second operating system after Windows, especially given Apple’s currently confusing sense of direction.
curious for a 27 year old article how accurate it turned to be (androidOS notwithstanding). Windows seems to still be the “2,000-pound gorilla” but there are other options available these days…
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