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rtxn, (edited ) in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?

I’m about to piss off a lot of people.

It’s Arch and Arch-derivatives. And I’m saying it as an Arch user, btw, and I actually love it.

Between the Big Three (Fedora, Debian, Arch), it is the least likely to have an official package for somewhat niche applications. If something is not available as a flatpak or appimage, I have to compile it from source or an AUR PKGBUILD, but we all know the dangers of doing that. Some software will just assume that it’s running on a particular disribution, usually Ubuntu. Some software will detect the distribution and straight-up refuse to work on Arch.

That being said, it would take a lot to make me switch to a stable point-release distribution. Arch’s advantages more than make up for the sub-par software support.

(actually, I lied. Fuck Canonical and *Ubuntu. And IBM.)

gianni,

This is a balanced take in my opinion. Also an Arch user. Distrobox has helped remedy things somewhat.

atzanteol, in 13 Best Open Source ChatGPT Alternatives

How do you know if it’s open source? Well if it’s called something like “huggingface” or “redpajama” there’s a very good chance it’s made by people who have no marketing department. So good odds it’s free.

fpslem,

ChatGPT is pretty crap branding too, for the record. They just somehow managed to mainstream it. All the LLMs after it try to have cooler names (Bard, Copilot, etc.) but the kludgy first name is still better known.

pastermil,

Having a huge backing (i.e. OpenAI) helps…

leopold,

GPT in French is literally pronounced the same as “I farted”.

fpslem,

My life is a little better knowing this fact. 😄

Magiccupcake,

I personally disagree, Bard feels very uninspired, and copilot i associate too mich with flying, and also sounds more competent than it is.

ChatGPT is probably not the best name, but at least it’s unique.

Dirk, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

You should try Linux Mint. It’s a good distribution for new Linux users. It’s easy to understand, has a good community with plenty of solutions for all types of problems and it is not too specific.

Gaming with Steam on Linux works without any major issues except when it comes to games that intentionally made run on Windows only due to their DRM. I suggest using the Flatpak variant of Steam so you won’t clutter your system with too many weird dependencies.

ParetoOptimalDev,

I don’t know about flatpak. I have a high tolerance for annoyance but configuring flatpak permissions right was annoying.

Dirk,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

I just installed it and never changed any permissions. Maybe you confuse it with AppImage?

qaz, (edited )

Some Flatpak apps don’t have the proper permissions or they can be quite restrictive especially when it cames to file access.

For example; it’s not possible to upload files using Discord from the user home (except a few specified folders). This could be solved with a XDG portal, but most apps don’t bother implementing that.

Loucypher,

Yeah that is annoying. I get that problem with Cryptomator

SteleTrovilo, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

NixOS for me. It’s a package manager (a very nice, declarative one) that you can use on any Linux (or Mac), and there’s also an entire distro based on it.

lupec,

Yeah I’ve gotten into Nix recently and it’s slowly been taking everything over bit by bit. So now I have the standalone package manager when I’m on WSL or other distros, full NixOS on a couple machines, fully reproducible LXC containers for my Proxmox build, the list goes on and on! Hell, I’ve got it on my steam deck to manage my CLI apps just because I can lol

ArcaneSlime, in TIL that operating system Linux is an example of anarcho-communism

Idk, technically voluntary association is a key tenet of volunteerism/anarcho-capitalism, so if we’re just using volunteering as the basis we might as well say it’s volunteerism. I think anarcho-communism and anarcho-capitalism are a bit more nuanced than “sharing.”

Urist,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Anarcho-capitalism is a contradictory term that is mostly used to imagine neofeudalism.

AnneBonny,

mostly used to imagine neofeudalism

what else is it used for?

Urist,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Those advocating for it also use it to display their total lack of perspective and analysis of the mechanics of capitalism. I.e. one can use it as a sign on one’s head saying “not at home for the moment, try again later”.

Cowbee,

Anarcho-Capitalism isn’t a thing, it’s just Libertarian Capitalists LARPing with Leftist aesthetics. The very rejection of individual ownership rejects Capitalism, it’s like saying Worker Co-operatives are an example of Capitalism because markets tend to not care what makes them up.

Just because FOSS would be “allowed” in Capitalism doesn’t mean it’s an example of Capitalist principles.

ArcaneSlime,

Yes and they’d argue that anarchism isn’t exclusively leftist (well, I’D argue that depends on one’s definition of left/right, because depending on who you ask it’s either good/bad, collectivism/individualism, or lib/auth, and by the latter definition they would then be leftist capitalists, which is funny to think about.) They support individual ownership without rulers, however they still promote sharing of things you own with your community if you can/want.

Right, and just because sharing is “allowed” in communism doesn’t mean sharing is communism. It being allowed in both not being necessarily representative of either is my whole point.

Cowbee,

Regardless of what AnCaps argue, the fundamental fact is that Anarchy is a rejection of hierarchy, whereas Private Property itself requires both the Owner/Worker hierarchy, and a monopoly on violence that cannot be reasonably contested to uphold Private Property protections. As such, it can only be considered Libertarian, as it both maintains hierarchy and maintains some semblance of at minimum a nightwatchman state.

As for Left/Right, the standard definition is Collective/Individual ownership of the Means of Production, not necessarily collectivism/individualism or lib/auth. Individual ownership by definition is supporting rulers, the larger Capitalists are effectively no different from a Feudal state.

Sharing being allowed does not mean FOSS aligns with AnCap principles, that’s like saying bagel consumption is AnCap.

FOSS isn’t simply “sharing” either, it’s quite literally a rejection of Individual ownership and creating IP for the collective to use, fork, maintain, and distribute as they see fit. It isn’t a coincidence that FOSS enthusiasts overwhelmingly lean left, just like Lemmy tends to.

ArcaneSlime, (edited )

Regardless of what AnCaps argue, the fundamental fact is that Anarchy is a rejection of hierarchy, whereas Private Property itself requires both the Owner/Worker hierarchy, and a monopoly on violence that cannot be reasonably contested to uphold Private Property protections. As such, it can only be considered Libertarian, as it both maintains hierarchy and maintains some semblance of at minimum a nightwatchman state.

Regardless is right, because my comments were never about espousing the benefits of anarcho-capitalism, I was using them to make the point that simply because things share a similarity with a political ideology it does not in fact make them “that ideology.” Arguing about ancapistan in this instance is a “strawman.”

Sharing being allowed does not mean FOSS aligns with AnCap principles, that’s like saying bagel consumption is AnCap.

No this is my point, you get your own.

use, fork, maintain, and distribute as they see fit.

“Sharing.”

Cowbee,

No.

Your argument is that because FOSS would be permissible in AnCap society, FOSS being fundamentally constructed upon AnCom principles of rejecting Capitalism and centralization in favor of decentralized and collectively owned and distributed property makes it not in line with Anarcho-Communism.

When the article is giving an example of how Anarcho-Communism would work, Linux is a fantastic example. Nobody is saying Linux is Anarcho-Communism, or that Linux cannot exist within broader contexts, but that in an Anarcho-Communist society, the structure of Linux and FOSS would be the common structure.

You’re being contrarion for the sake of it.

ArcaneSlime,

No.

Yes.

Your argument is that because FOSS would be permissible in AnCap society…

Because voluntary association and sharing is also a core tenet of volunteerism/anarchocapitalism, as they also are of anarcho-communism…

FOSS being fundamentally constructed upon AnCom principles of rejecting Capitalism and centralization in favor of decentralized and collectively owned and distributed property

FOSS being similar to AnCom because both share principles of sharing

makes it not in line with Anarcho-Communism.

makes it not necessarily Anarcho-Communist.

You’re making false equivalencies for the sake of it.

Cowbee,

“This rejection of profit and ownership made by a self-admitted leftist is actually completely in line with for-profit individual ownership just because AnCaps don’t murder people for doing charity”

You’re just trying to be contrarion for the sake of it, lmao. Again, the article was showcasing examples of gift economies and how Anarcho-Communism would function, and Linux fits that definition. It wasn’t arguing that Linux is Anarcho-Communism itself. It is not an example of how Anarcho-Capitalism would function, as Anarcho-Capitalism is Capitalism, and FOSS is decidedly anticapitalist, even if said Capitalists wouldn’t murder Linus for rejecting Capitalism.

You’re again being needlessly contrarion, Anarcho-Capitalists don’t advocate for setting up networks of mutual aid and FOSS software, they don’t care about gift economies either. Using Linux as an example for AnCapistan would get you laughed out of the room, if calling yourself an AnCap didn’t already result in that.

I’m done, this is pointless.

ArcaneSlime,

Lmao know what? Money must me made of grass, seeing as both are green, you’ve convinced me.

fl42v, in Friendly reminder

BTW, nixos allows you to easily roll back to a previous generation on boot in case an update breaks something.

Just sayin’ 😁

mmhmm,

Opensuse’s aeon is gold

mvirts,

Woohoo

million,
@million@lemmy.world avatar

So does Fedora Silverblue for the record.

It is a damn impressive feature to realize you just broke your install and are able to say “no problem”.

reallyzen, (edited )
@reallyzen@lemmy.ml avatar

Si does tumbleweed, two-clicks rollback from the GRUB menu

greencactus,

Silverblue gang!

jacktherippah, in Linux reaches new high 3.82%

Say the line, Bart!

Psythik,

sigh 2024 will be the year of Linux on the desktop…

lemmyvore, (edited ) in Is there such a thing as split-screen grep?

Run rsync, pipe to tee, and redirect the output to a named pipe (mkfifo). Open a second terminal and direct the named pipe into a grep command. Arrange the terminals in whatever way you want.


<span style="color:#323232;">mkfifo mypipe
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rsync | tee mypipe
</span><span style="color:#323232;">grep "denied" < mypipe
</span>
canadaduane,
@canadaduane@lemmy.ca avatar

Elegant and flexible, thank you!

cupcakezealot, in Ending support for Windows 10 could send 240 million computers to the landfill. Why not install Linux on them?
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Microsoft: Arbitrarily increases the system requirements for Windows 11 even though it runs perfectly fine on older pcs just to get people to buy new computers

Also Microsoft: Why’s there so much waste??

knfrmity,

As I understand it, it wasn’t arbitrary. Microsoft has wanted to require TPMs for two decades at this point. Once there’s high enough adoption they can roll out their version of trusted computing.

Allero,

TPM modules are not new, it’s TPM 2.0 that got problematic.

If you run Windows 10, chances are you have TPM 1.4, which is perfectly fine, but Microsoft wants moar

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

When has MS indicated they care about waste in the least?

blazeknave,
TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

This is a marketing page that any big company has a version of. I meant by action, not lip service

blazeknave,

There is a link immediately over the headline in the url I shared. Read the report. I used to sell green asset disposition of electronics. It’s been an industry for a long time. It makes a difference. See what you want to see man. I can intro you to people in that business if you’d like to pick their brains. I don’t know who owns this at Microsoft but I can ask contacts there, if you’d like me to help get you an intro.

Liz,

I found it absolutely amazing they claim my pretty decent laptop from 2016 can’t run Windows 11. Laptops haven’t gotten that much better since then. Also, supposing it actually couldn’t, it’s a fucking operating system. It should be doing everything it can to stay out of the way. What kind of bloated monstrosity is Windows 11 that my laptop can’t run it?

applebusch,

It’s the trusted platform module which I know almost nothing about but I’m sure is fucking stupid. My monster of a desktop from 2018 also can’t run win11, and the only reason is my cpu is missing the tpm that it requires.

Lord_ToRA, in openSUSE Logo Contest Concludes With Winners Selected
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

I’m surprised they didn’t immediately go with Lizard Humping A Square en.opensuse.org/images/2/25/Oscover.png

isVeryLoud,

Missed opportunity 😔

lapommedeterre,

It’d be a good browser logo, if it was humping a globe

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

Just like ur mom

aard, in Power Management Bugs Hold Up Some Linux Laptops Due To Regulatory Requirements
@aard@kyu.de avatar

Big problem here is that Microsoft seems to have given up on sleep states, and just does S5 and then hibernates (which is horribly slow), so S3 on newer machines is often horribly broken in the firmware and can’t really be used. I’m not really interested in my system going to S5 - I want it in S3.

const_void,

I wish more vendors produced laptops with coreboot instead of the proprietary junk firmware we normal get.

MigratingtoLemmy,

I don’t get it. Why on earth are ASUS, MSI, Asrock etc paying AMI when they could literally get the FOSS community to write it for them with a little help?

520, (edited )

Because software development in a corporate environment relies on milestones, deadlines and guarantees. Open source, which relies on volunteer work, doesn't do this well.

saigot,

Blame modern standby (s0i3). S0i3 is a huge mess honestly, really hard to debug from what I’ve heard and so is full of bugs and unintuitive behaviour on both the hw manufacturers side and on windows side. However if it worked as advertised, it would be a strict improvement to s3.

Hibrrnate (S4) is still alive and well but they hide it in the ui, I don’t understand why because in my experience, it is by far the most stable.

duncesplayed, (edited ) in Is linux good for someone tech illererate.

I’m going to reframe the question as “Are computers good for someone tech illiterate?”

I think the answer is “yes, if you have someone that can help you”.

The problem with proprietary systems like Windows or OS X is that that “someone” is a large corporation. And, in fairness, they generally do a good job of looking after tech illiterate people. They ensure that their users don’t have to worry about how to do updates, or figure out what browser they should be using, or what have you.

But (and it’s a big but) they don’t actually care about you. Their interest making sure you have a good experience ends at a dollar sign. If they think what’s best for you is to show you ads and spy on you, that’s what they’ll do. And you’re in a tricky position with them because you kind of have to trust them.

So with Linux you don’t have a corporation looking after you. You do have a community (like this one) to some degree, but there’s a limit to how much we can help you. We’re not there on your computer with you (thankfully, for your privacy’s sake), so to a large degree, you are kind of on your own.

But Linux actually works very well if you have a trusted friend/partner/child/sibling/whoever who can help you out now and then. If you’ve got someone to help you out with it, Linux can actually work very very well for tech illiterate people. The general experience of browsing around, editing documents, editing photos, etc., works very much the same way as it does on Windows or OS X. You will probably be able to do all that without help.

But you might not know which software is best for editing photos. Or you might need help with a specific task (like getting a printer set up) and having someone to fall back on will give you much better experience.

Cwilliams,

Beautifully said

li10, in Windows 11 scores dead last in gaming performance tests against 3 Linux gaming distros

I’ll need to give Linux gaming another chance at some point.

All I know is that people were saying games run great on Linux a couple of years ago as well, but when I actually tried it for myself the performance was unusable.

Maybe that was my fault for over complicating my setup, but even when I tried a basic setup it still felt very janky.

Not sure if anyone’s able to advise, but does RTX and variable refresh rate work on Linux?

Those are absolute requirements for me.

Pantherina,

Same, I could not get a single game to run normally on Fedora Kinoite, AMD GPU, Wayland. Idk maybe amdgpu pro and x11? But xwayland should also work normally…

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Steam from Flathub just works.

Pantherina,

Okay I went more the ProtonUpQt + Bottles + oversea way

vintageballs, (edited )

All three major GPU manufacturers support ray tracing and variable refresh rate on Linux. When playing windows games, ray tracing has to be handled through VKD3D, which AFAIK supports most but not all DXR features. I haven’t had any problems with it though.

The one thing that can still completely make or break your (Windows games on Linux) gaming experience is anti-cheat software, since it’s up to the game developers to enable it for wine. The major anti cheat providers offer solutions for this, but not all game studios are interested in their games running on platforms other than windows. Games like valorant will probably never work. Good riddance though.

stardust,

What about hdr. I saw it mentioned for the Steam Deck update, so wondered if that is finally working on Linux. I do like taking advantage of HDR on the TV.

flashgnash,

That’s in the works still right now, steam deck has it and I think it’s possible to get it working on other distros but isn’t on by default in most I don’t think

TheGrandNagus,

It’s in the early stages, but yeah you can do it in KDE Plasma if you’re prepared to jump through a couple of hoops (basically doing the same thing the Deck does)

Linux won’t have proper HDR support until mid-late next year.

li10,

Thanks, I’ll definitely need to give Linux gaming another shot then.

The last bit that might hold me back is getting my Hue Sync stuff working. It sounds silly, but it really makes games feel so much more immersive that I don’t want to be without it.

ratman150,

Home assistant is probably your friend with hue.

EccTM,

There’s a GNOME extension called HUE lights that allows you to control everything from your tray, entertainment zones and all. Similar probably exists for KDE/etc.

semperverus,
@semperverus@lemmy.world avatar

OpenRGB can handle a ton of stuff like this if I recall. I dont know if its hue extension is any good as i havent used it, but ive seen videos.

zingo,

Valorant is a fucking awful game with über ban techniques when you force quit a game for some reason, like needing to go to the bathroom in middle of game play.

I can’t understand anyone can accept such a thing.

jimbo, (edited )

Why are you force quitting a game to go use the bathroom? Just step away for a few minutes.

bizzle,
@bizzle@lemmy.world avatar

Valorant is a trash tier game and I can’t believe anyone plays it

Vilian,

nvidia is always hit of miss

Truck_kun,

I’m sure there’s lots of solutions, but Steam with Proton for any windows only games has generally worked great for me.

Where I encounter issues, the Lutris flatpak install has worked well for me.

Both I believe use wine, but it is probably easier use downstream solutions like the above when getting started, instead of learning wine. Not that there aren’t benefits to learning it, just in a immediate issues -> lets go back to windows VS it just kind of works pretty good comparison.

Steam having a fair number of games that are directly Linux compatible now days is nice too.

const_void, in Based KDE 🗿

KDE is the best desktop environment.

bleistift2, (edited ) in TIL

The best part of working in a meat grinder startup were the Linux masters teaching you stuff like


<span style="color:#323232;">cat /dev/random > /dev/pty23
</span>

or


<span style="color:#323232;">su _otheruser_
</span><span style="color:#323232;">chsh -s /bin/false
</span>
yogurtwrong,
@yogurtwrong@lemmy.world avatar

cat /dev/random > /dev/pty23

Imagine someone adding this to your .profile

lhamil64,

What is /dev/pty23? From context, I assume another users terminal so it just spams garbage to their screen?

nicoweio,

What OP said. But here’s a more detailed answer courtesy of GPT-4:

Adding cat /dev/random > /dev/pty23 to your .profile would result in an interesting situation whenever you start a login shell.

  1. Behavior of the Command: The command cat /dev/random continuously reads random data from the /dev/random device file, which generates an endless stream of random bytes. Redirecting this to /dev/pty23 means it attempts to write this data to the pseudo-terminal device /dev/pty23.
  2. Impact on Shell Startup: When you add this to your .profile, every time you start a login shell (like when you open a new terminal session), it will execute this command. Since /dev/random produces an endless stream of data, the cat command will not terminate on its own. This means your shell will be stuck executing this command, and you won’t get a prompt to enter new commands.
  3. Interactive Shell Issue: The shell remains technically interactive, but because the cat command doesn’t complete, you won’t get a chance to interact with it. The shell is effectively blocked by the cat command continuously running.
  4. Potential Problems: There’s a possibility that /dev/pty23 might not exist on your system, or you might not have the permission to write to it. In such cases, the command would fail, but it would still block the shell if it doesn’t exit properly.
  5. Fixing the Issue: To regain control of your shell, you might need to edit your .profile from a different context where it doesn’t get executed, like using a non-login shell or booting into a recovery mode.

In summary, it’s a kind of a “prank” command that can render your login shell unusable until you remove it from your .profile. It’s an example of how powerful shell startup scripts can be, and also a reminder to be cautious about what gets added to them!

crispy_kilt,

Please don’t spam gpt rubbish

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