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MiddledAgedGuy, in Could 2024 be the year of the diagonal linux desktop?

Two facts:

  1. I love people doing weird things with tech.
  2. I absolutely hate this.
azvasKvklenko, in What are you most excited when it comes to linux in 2024?

More Wayland adoption, more protocols and desktop portals, color management and HDR getting closer, even better gaming

NVIDIA getting its shit together maybe?

asexualchangeling,

NVIDIA getting its shit together maybe?

That truly would be the year of the linux desktop

herrvogel,

I think the teams that are responsible for bringing proper HDR support are moving slow and waiting for HDR to get its shit together, as right now it’s a poorly standardized dumpster fire of various protocols and definitions and implementations. It’s still a bit of a pain in windows and macos despite the fact that official support exists already.

KSPAtlas,
@KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

They just broke xwayland on my gpu so i’ve been forced to return to x11, bit of a backwards move

azvasKvklenko,

Gosh, NVIDIA literally pays just one guy to do the entire Linux support

milkjug,

At this stage I suspect its just 3 kids in a trenchcoat.

Atemu,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

NVIDIA getting its shit together maybe?

Given the recent pace of NVK development we probably won’t have to rely on that for much longer in 2024.

Strit, in Kernel 6.6.6 is out 😈
@Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show avatar

It’s a fancy number, but the release only fixes some wifi regressions. Nothing wild.

Cwilliams,

My friend has been complaining about this! Glad to see it fixed

soupcat,

I had been trying out Linux and finally decided to install it to my ssd. The timing ended up such that I got the wifi issues on the new install but not my old one, and they basically make the OS unusable. I didn’t realise any of this and am new so did heaps of reinstalling and searching trying to figure out what had gone wrong since it was all fine when it was installed on my HDD.

I finally found some forum posts and bug reports about this after wasting a day assuming it was something I’d done wrong 😂.

Gonna stick to lts kernel from now on I think. 6.6.6 seemed pretty fitting to me, even if it was 6.6.5 that actually broke it.

luthis,

Yeah, metal as fuck WiFi regressions!

debounced,
@debounced@kbin.run avatar

6.6.5 has been a massive pain in the ass with the MTK wifi in my asus g14. very happy this got released quickly, no more deadlocks!

KISSmyOS, (edited ) in "Help me choose my first distro" and other questions for beginners

And again, a distro chooser guide that completely fails to mention OpenSUSE, despite being a full-featured desktop OS supported by the second biggest corporation in the Linux world (behind Red Hat), with a history that goes back longer than Debian’s.

interceder270,

Doesn’t really make sense to recommend suse as a first-time distro since knowledge of it doesn’t really carry over to other distros.

It’s kind of its own thing with YaST.

I’d recommend pretty much any major distro for beginners before opensuse, even Fedora. At least with Fedora you gain some Red Hat knowledge.

nyan,

They didn’t include my distro of choice (Gentoo) or my desktop environment (TDE) . . . but I’m not surprised. Lists like this aren’t meant to be exhaustive, and they always reflect the author’s biases and what they’ve been exposed to. Not including someone else’s favourites doesn’t make them bad lists for the purpose they’re intended to serve.

Probably the best way to deal with newbie choice paralysis is a big flowchart, or a questionaire: "Which of these are important to you: ‘just works’ - stability - customizability - organizational transparency - keeping up with the bleeding edge - . . . "

cygnus,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

They didn’t include my distro of choice (Gentoo) or my desktop environment (TDE)

To be fair, these would both be absolutely terrible suggestions for beginners.

nyan,

Gentoo is a bad choice for a generic newb, yes, but I would say that Arch is too.

TDE wouldn’t necessarily be a bad choice for first-timers if any distro of significance preinstalled it, but the extra installation work pretty much wipes out the user-friendliness it might offer, alas.

kurcatovium,

This saddens me too. I use Tumbleweed for years and it’s awesome. Prebuilt snapper is lifesaver for beginners too!

theshatterstone54,

For me, the fact that Chris Titus basically said “the opensuse installer is better” is, I think, more praise than OpenSUSE has receive in years , but far less than it deserves. Honestly, the only issue I had with Tumbleweed was the notoriously slow package manager. I think it’s the only package manager slower than dnf, and even installing apps by appending them to configuration.nix (if you so choose) on NixOS felt far faster than using zypper. I really like Yast, though.

wfh,

Sorry, the goal here was to offer a few sensible alternatives, not overwhelm the reader with choices. The gist here is “start with something solid, reputable and popular, branch out later”.

Too much choices lead to analysis paralysis, and to goal here is to learn how to swim first. There are dozens of great distros, probably more than half of that worthy to be on this list, as there are dozens of great DEs, probably more than half of that worthy to be on this list.

ElderWendigo,

not overwhelm the reader with choices

Then why even mention arch? Especially a guide claiming to be for beginners? Using your own metaphor, that’s like teaching someone to swim by tossing them into a shark infested reef.

wfh,

Because most people getting interested in Linux have heard of Arch, and might think “well there is a very vocal community of Arch users, this might be a great place to start”.

Patch, in How do y'all deal with programs not supported on Linux?

Use an alternative, or

Use Wine/Proton, or

Use a web app if it exists, or

Run Windows in a VM.

For me, the first 3 options covers 99.9% of my usage. It’s been a long time since I had to worry about installing Windows in a VM.

But to be fair, my requirements to use Windows software are very limited and non-critical. If:

A lot of programs I work with very often are Windows-exclusive

…then I would certainly consider keeping a Windows laptop around. Right tool for the job and all that.

el_abuelo, in Sell Me on Linux

Starting a new business is hard enough as it is - please do not complicated it by adding in something that brings limited tangible benefits to the company, whilst making it unnecessarily harder than what it will be anyway.

Either get fluent now, and then start your business - or start your business with Windows and move on when you’re profitable and can afford the reduction in productively while you learn the ropes.

Do not go anywhere near MacOS - you can’t afford it.

GuyWithLag,

This is solid advice.

Also, the macOS ecosystem is predicated on you being rich enough (or fool enough) to buy it, and everything is nickel-and-dimed.

Joker, in Sell Me on Linux

Don’t do it.

First off, I love Linux. It’s my daily driver and I wouldn’t want to use anything else.

But in my past career I was the CIO at a very large firm. Lawyers need Microsoft Office and Windows. If you hire a good assistant or paralegal with word processing experience, they are going to need Microsoft Word. LibreOffice is good, but it’s not a replacement in this scenario. Good word processors are like wizards and will save you hours. It’s not worth it to make them learn something else.

Then there’s drafting software, templating, practice-specific tools, etc. Anything geared for legal is going to run on Windows. What are you using for time entry? What about accounting?

Not to mention, you have some information security obligations under the model rules and you don’t want to mess with that. Although Linux has security advantages over Windows, you still have to take measures to secure it. Maybe that’s easy enough for you to do on your own laptop, but your practice will grow to at least a few staff and an associate. Somebody has to do IT because you’re sure as hell not going to waste billable hours on it.

I had to use Windows in that old gig and it really wasn’t bad. It’s stable, reliable, easy to support. Everyone you hire will have used it before. It’s an unpopular opinion around here, but it’s a quality operating system that’s affordable. I guarantee your cost of ownership will be lower on Windows in your particular situation.

this_is_router, in GNOME Recognized as Public Interest Infrastructure
@this_is_router@feddit.de avatar

Congrats GNOME!

Does anyone know if homedir encryption will utilize systemd-homed?

AProfessional,

That’s the plan.

this_is_router, (edited )
@this_is_router@feddit.de avatar

My comment wasn’t meant as a jab against systemd or gnome, I was just curious if there are different solutions for an encrypted homedir.

I really like the direction linux, systemd and gnome are going! Big thank you to all the developers! <3

lemmyvore,

You can use Fuse to encrypt files on the fly using a wide assortment of schemas. The trick is to make it available at the right time to all the desktop apps (as the environment is starting up).

All of this is available already, for example I’m encrypting the files I sync to Dropbox and I mount the decrypted version to a dir on my desktop on startup. It’s not the entire home dir but you get the idea. It’s just gonna need some polish to become really smooth and user friendly.

this_is_router,
@this_is_router@feddit.de avatar

Im most interested in encrypted homedirs for servers. Since all my collegues are to lazy to use encrypted ssh keys, i hoped that systemd-homed makes it possible to secure them from the root user.

Is systemd-homed already useable for such usecase? If gnome will do the same for desktops, that would be a big plus, thinking about firefox profiles and such. Hopefully also using pam or kerberos for decryption.

I’ll look into fuse though, thanks for the hint

lemmyvore,

It’s usable but it comes with a fair amount of manual setup. Hopefully this is the kind of thing that Gnome will improve upon.

wiki.archlinux.org/title/Systemd-homed

Juujian, in How to choose a computer/laptop/device that is better compatible with linux? Are there certain things to look out for when shopping?

Lenovo/Thinkpad will certify certain models for use with Linux, other brands sell Linux laptops. Those are obviously good indicators that those models should be safe to choose. More generally, the more popular a model is, and the longer it’s been on the market the more likely they are to be compatible, just because they are in people’s hands and people tinker with them and add stuff to the Linux Kernel. So stay away from the latest model that is uncertified, and don’t choose the flashy, overpriced model that will see poor sales.

pete_the_cat,

I second this. I got a Lenovo Thinkpad Carbon X1 for work after the Dell I had originally got straight up refused to sleep. I would put it to sleep manually, close the screen and when fully closed the screen would turn back on. Also, it refused to charge properly so I just left it plugged in 24/7. One day it became unplugged and then refused to turn on at all.

I’ve been running Fedora for about 2 years on it and the only issue I’ve had that I can’t fix is the fingerprint reader doesn’t work in SDDM/KDE for unlocking stuff. Fprintd recognizes it and I can enroll fingerprints, it just doesn’t work with KDE for some reason.

TerkErJerbs,

The fingerprint reader on mine doesn’t work either. I’ve read up on solutions for that regards Debian but I haven’t tried any yet. I have a yubikey and that works fine as an extra layer of login security.

pete_the_cat,

I wanted the fingerprint reader to work just because it’s easier than typing a password, using something like a YubiKey is the complete opposite unless you keep it plugged into the device 24/7, and then it really no longer serves its original purpose.

d3Xt3r,

Yeah, unfortunately it looks like the reader on the X1 is a special case. Thankfully, this isn’t an issue with my Z13 - the reader itself worked out-of-the-box, just had to enroll my fingerprint from the Settings menu and then added fprintd to my pam.d rules.

pete_the_cat,

I’ve tried everything I’ve found in the Arch Wiki but nothing seemed to work, oh well, it’s not a big deal all things considered.

Macaroni9538,

Wonderful to know! thanks alot. I have heard alot of good about linux and thinkpads but only up to a certain generation I think? What about HP? my computer repair guy swears by HP but I honestly know nothing about HP and never hear people talk about HP either.

bustrpoindextr,

HP consumer products are literal garbage. The only good thing that comes out of HP is their commercial server equipment.

Lenovo won’t let you down for Linux. I’ve run Linux on thinkpads for years, multiple generations. I used to work at IBM, so I had em for work. Rock solid machines, I still run with them today (just the newer generations).

Macaroni9538,

What about HP business grade stuff? thats what ive heard good about. Also any idea on other IBM equipment than their old thinkpads? I have no clue about nowaday IBM but am curious.

bustrpoindextr,

IBM doesn’t do consumer stuff anymore they sold the entire side of that business to Lenovo.

HP Business stuff is pretty good but it’s gonna run you a pretty penny.

TerkErJerbs,

I have a lenovo thinkbook (cheapy thinkpad) for work with AMD chip and gpu. It wasn’t one of their models certified for linux but everything runs flawlessly for a lean debian build for me. I’ve had linux on several laptops and this is my second machine with AMD chips, and I’ll say that what you hear is true; There are way more, and better, drivers available for AMD if you go with linux.

My 2 cents.

BarrierWithAshes, in Gamedev and linux
@BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social avatar

I remember a gamedev complaining about this on Twitter but the outcome he came to was that he hated that Linux users submitted bug reports, stating the OS itself was broken and he refused to help any of them.

TigrisMorte,

You shouldn't remember the ravings of idiot minds.

BarrierWithAshes,
@BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social avatar

Only recalled cause of this dev doing effectively the inverse.

TigrisMorte,

I was not faulting you. I was advising best practices.

davet,

IIRC it was Planetary Annihilation and the guy ranting wasn’t even a programmer.

MonkderZweite,

stating the OS itself was broken

A dependency was missing, betcha?

winterayars,

I’ve seen that several times. I expected that’s where this post was going, nice to see that was wrong.

JoeKrogan, in I feel like I'm missing out by not distro-hopping
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

Unless its NixOS or something like silver blue or QubesOS they’re all basically the same. If you want to mess about try some different ones in a VM or on a live CD or USB. That way you still have your daily driver working when you need it

BaalInvoker, (edited ) in [QUESTION] I installed Apache OpenOffice

Here’s what you do:

  • Remove OpenOffice
  • Install LibreOffice

OpenOffice is discontinued a long time. Last time updated was 4.1.6 on Jan 25, 2019

JoMiran, in Where can I find work?
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Can you be A LOT more specific about your skill set and experience?

carl_dungeon, in Why more PC gaming handhelds should ditch Windows for SteamOS

Cause windows sucks and licenses?

aard, in Friendly reminder
@aard@kyu.de avatar

Friendly reminder: just don’t buy nvidia

CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV,
@CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV@lemmy.world avatar

Many already have nvidia before they start with linux. I’m still on my 1060 from 2018.

mhz,

I had one before, then 2060, then 2080 and finally 6800 (current one), how is your nvidia experience right now compared to 2018? Any better?

CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV,
@CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV@lemmy.world avatar

I started with linux begin 2019. I just use xorg so I don’t know about wayland problems. I think a long time ago nvidia broke once and I switched to nvidia-dkms and it has worked fine since until recently where a mesa update broke xorg but I don’t think that has to do with nvidia. Getting CUDA to work might be trouble though (I think I briefly tried once).

jjlinux,

Another problem is that most manufacturers of laptops directed at the Linux crowd, for some reason I will never understand, insist on punching Nvidia hardware instead of AMD/ATI. How does that help?

PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

All these laptops make a circle… All these laptops make a circle… ;)

southernwolf,
@southernwolf@pawb.social avatar

Unfortunately for those of us that use Cuda features, AMD just really isn’t that viable of an alternative. Anyone who’s had to deal with ROCM can attest to this…

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