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milicent_bystandr, in Just about every Windows and Linux device vulnerable to new LogoFAIL firmware attack

So, does this affect dual boot systems, if e.g. Windows is compromised, now that malware in the efi partition can compromise the Linux system next time it boots? Yikes!

I suppose in principle malware from one OS can attack the other anyway, even if the other is fully encrypted and/or the first OS doesn’t have drivers for the second’s filesystems: because malware can install said drivers and attack at least the bootloader - though that night have been protected by secure boot if it weren’t for this new exploit?

elscallr,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

It would effect any UEFI based system regardless of OS from one of the affected manufacturers (which is basically all of them).

milicent_bystandr,

But I mean, this attack can go cross-OS? I.e. a successful attack on one OS on the dual boot machine can, via UEFI infect the other OS?

Nyfure,

Yes, it can execute code regardless of OS installed because it persists on the Mainboard and loads before any OS, making it possible to inject code into any OS.

millie,

Aaa! Name thief!

milicent_bystandr,

Don’t worry, I’m just on standby.

doctorn, in Self Post
@doctorn@r.nf avatar

Oh, so thát’s what ‘cat’ does!

atzanteol, in Self Post

Is “magic sysrq” enabled? Could be the cat hit alt+sysrq+something.

ABasilPlant, (edited )

You’re right, that’s exactly what happened. If you look at the top of the trace, it says __handle_sysrq. Moreover, it’s in the sysrq_handle_crash. That gets called when a sysrq combo is pressed.

13617, in Hardware video acceleration

One of my biggest pet peeves with Linux by far. Usually my use of Linux is generally just parsec and that’s it. But I can’t ever select the right driver, and then I forget, idk it’s a whole thing and I just wish it was baked in and easy, but then again it is linux

LainOfTheWired,
@LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol avatar

I don’t exactly know why, but part of it could be that due to different open source licences they have to keep things separate, because the kernel is licenced under the GPL, and the Intel video libraries probably aren’t.

Another reason could be simply not wanting bloat, but with everything a standard kernel does come with I guess probably not

Rentlar, in Darling runs macOS software directly without using a hardware emulator

Cool. Do you know if this project will support PowerPC-era Mac OS X apps or if that makes any difference? There are a bunch of quirky and fun games that could avoid being lost to time if an “emulator” can run them.

lemmy_user_838586,

Because power-pc is a different CPU architecture, those apps would require emulation or a VM I think. A VM is possible already I believe.

Rentlar,

Ok, good to know, I figure this instruction set can’t be converted 1 to 1.

KLISHDFSDF, in Darling runs macOS software directly without using a hardware emulator
@KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml avatar

for those not familiar, this basically lets you run command line tools. anything with a GUI will not work.

MacNCheezus,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Seeing how the majority of CLI apps available on the Mac are ported over from Linux in the first place, what is even the point?

Limeey,

Everything starts somewhere, but I wonder what macOS cli’s are the target for this tool that doesn’t have a Linux equivalent

KLISHDFSDF,
@KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml avatar

CLI’s are likely not specifically the target. I suspect the CLI is just the “low hanging fruit” and core set of software that needs to be supported before you build up to a fully functional GUI apps.

Quazatron,
@Quazatron@lemmy.world avatar

Yet.

AbouBenAdhem, in Darling runs macOS software directly without using a hardware emulator

For software that’s currently available on both Windows and MacOS, how does the performance of the Windows version under Wine compare to the MacOS version under Darling?

bamboo,

Wine is much, much better at this point. In particular, Darling doesn’t have much support for GUIs yet, so unless it is a command line tool you probably want to stick with Wine.

Pantherina,

I imagine if Darling gets as well supported it would be better. But it will not be optimized as much, even though the core architecture may be way more similar

ikidd, in Fedora 40 Eyes The Ability To Boot Unified Kernel Images Directly
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Is there not issues with filling up the NVRAM with efi entries, even if you’re deleting old ones? I’ve bricked a computer by distrohopping so many times it couldn’t write new entries.

SteveTech,

I’m probably wrong, but NVRAM suggests that there should be some way to clear it. (Clearing the CMOS might if you can’t do it in software)

as_is_tradition,

I’ve cleared entries before with efibootmgr.

tkk13909, in Self Post

What version of Debian? I hope the 3.1.0 I see isn’t the Kernel release.

KISSmyOS, (edited )

No, I just duckduckwent “Hacker Cat” and nabbed the pic where the cat had the smuggest look on her face.
My own cat made sure to dispose of all incriminating evidence.

westyvw, in Just about every Windows and Linux device vulnerable to new LogoFAIL firmware attack

Is this potentially useful to me? Since it is persistent, can I use it on this motherboard I have over here that insists on using UEFI even if I do not want to?

just_another_person, in Darling runs macOS software directly without using a hardware emulator

Anyone have experience with it? I’m trying to think of something that is MacOS only that I care about to test it with, but coming up empty.

Spectacle8011,
@Spectacle8011@lemmy.comfysnug.space avatar

It took an hour or two to compile and takes up about 5GB of space. The only program I’m really interested in is Xcode, which doesn’t work at the moment.

GenderNeutralBro,

Haven’t tried it yet, but I can see myself using it in the future. It could be great for automating Mac/iOS development and administrative workflows. I don’t think you can compile, sign, notarize, or inspect Mac/iOS apps without Xcode tools (which are, of course, Mac-only). It’s a pain in the ass to operate Mac VMs for such purposes, and it’s only getting more difficult as time goes on. IIRC Apple only allows 2 guest VMs per host now.

Not sure if there are any non-Mac tools to work with dmg files (Mac disk images).

If GUI support is sufficiently developed in the future, there are plenty of Mac apps I would like to run. iPhone app support on Linux would be an absolute game-changer.

J4g2F,
@J4g2F@lemmy.ml avatar

If in the future it ever gets good support for gui’s and is stable. For sure gone try Qlab.

It’s simple the best show control software I tried yet. But for now I will be using Linux show player or borrow a MacBook.

offspec,

Arc is a neat browser I might try out if it weren’t Mac only and chromium based.

torvusbogpod,

Might be a good way to run Photoshop if it’s more compatible with Adobe apps than Wine

ForgotAboutDre,

Safari is by far the best browser for battery performance. I’m uncertain if this would translate over to safari running in darling when it supports guis fully.

Pantherina,

I mean they have lots of MS Apps, Adobe stuff, some video editors and all that, maybe MS apps on macOS are less hard to run

palordrolap, in Just about every Windows and Linux device vulnerable to new LogoFAIL firmware attack

It's rare that I get to feel anything remotely comforting about not being able to afford new hardware, but if I understand correctly, my BIOS-only dinosaur can't be exploited.

Still vulnerable to thousands of other exploits no doubt, but not this one.

dingdongitsabear, (edited ) in Fedora 40 Eyes The Ability To Boot Unified Kernel Images Directly

This latest UKI work for Fedora will lead to better UEFI Secure Boot support, better supporting TPM measurements and confidential computing, and a more robust boot process.

and HOPEFULLY lead to a less jerky-flashy-switchy boot xperience, looks like a Vegas light show at present. switched to systemd-boot, but it’s only a tiny bit better, still switches modes/blanks screen like five times.

taanegl,

Omg yes, I hate those. I’m sitting here thinking it’s probably one of those simple things that scares people away from Linux…“Oh god, I see black text on white background. Abort, abort, ABORT!!”

yum13241,

Mine only switches modes once, on load save backlight.

dingdongitsabear, (edited )

yeah, if you don’t have an encrypted drive (which I’m gonna do on a laptop NEVER) on some OEMs this can look semi-seamless.

here’s what it looks like on a laptop:

    1. OEM logo
    1. screen goes blank, backlight off
    1. light on, OEM logo
    1. blank screen
    1. decrypt password
    1. blank screen
    1. loading spinner with OEM logo
    1. gdm/sddm login screen
    1. blank screen
  • 9a. (sddm) loading animation
  • 9b. (sddm) jerk when fractional scaling kicks in
    1. and finally there’s the desktop

with additional mode switching interjected and occasionally the horror that is GRUB inserts a ‘Loading blah blah’ text message; thankfully we’re getting rid of that.

yum13241,

My HP crapbook doesn’t have this OEM logo bullshit. Only the windows bootloader shows it, and the logo file is stored in the BGRT. So I don’t think I’m affected unless the WBM or systemd-boot have this vuln.

Mine:


<span style="color:#323232;">1. Screen turns on
</span><span style="color:#323232;">2. I pick EndeavorOS in systemd-boot
</span><span style="color:#323232;">3. It starts spitting out logs (I love this behavior)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">4. It switches modes once the backlight is loaded
</span><span style="color:#323232;">5. I log in
</span><span style="color:#323232;">6. KDE loads
</span>

I will never understand people who install Plymouth, it just adds complexity in the boot process. If your distro installs this then I understand why: so it doesn’t look like you’re “hacking the government”. If your distro doesn’t install it and you install it then you probably picked the wrong distro.

ikidd, in Manjaro OS
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

I have almost a dozen installs of it in the wild for a few years now, with friends and relatives that aren’t very computer literate. It has been virtually maintenance free. This is on wildly disparate hardware as well, and it’s always installed nicely and with little messing around after to get things working.

People like to hate on it; it’s been by far the most reliable distro I’ve used, far better than "just works^TM " distros like Fedora and Ubuntu. I’d ignore the naysayers and use if it works for you.

hottari, in The Distro Wars are good actually.?

A distro isn’t just a way to interact with the Linux operating system. It’s a collection of tools that helps you do it. Some tools are just sharper that others. The community just likes debating about this important nuance. It’s not that complicated.

My tools of choice come from the famous blue logo distro.

theshatterstone54,

Blue logo distro

Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?

(Fedora, Arch, Kubuntu, Zorin, ElementaryOS, ArcoLinux and surely many more I’m forgetting)

BackOnMyBS,
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

I think it’s fairly obvious that they mean Arch because they are sharing which distro they use without being prompted, which is inline with a common running joke about doing the same thing, btw.

hottari,

Out of them all, the most famous one is the one I use. Kept the name a bit of a mystery to avoid the resultant argument about it btw.

theshatterstone54,

No point, the btw gave it away

DasSkelett,

Ah, clearly Fedora then.

Auli,

Sure except every district has the same tools. I distribute is more of a toolbox then a tool.

ErnieBernie10,

Fedora? 🙂

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