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WuTang, in Gamedev and linux
@WuTang@lemmy.ninja avatar

That’s true. But I won’t hold my breath as the bar getting low to get a better&better out-of-the-box experience on linux (and it’s good), it will bring its lot of smelly gamer on their racing chair which don’t care usually, they don’t mind to exec this fishy binary to get 5fps. They will come by simple fact that MS, eventually, would have been too far in BS in their Ai-Ads-OS.

Just check this community on YouTube, Twitch and forums. Shitting on AAA title which are a monstrosity of complexity but because it fails sometimes, those smelly, pretentious douche can get quite incendiary quickly.

That’s why I wish that those tiktok games (apex, fortnite,) never ends on linux.

cerement, in Package format wars daydream
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar
  • xkcd: Standards
  • one of the most unappreciated aspects of any package manager is how they handle dependency resolution – the modern formats (Flatpak, Snap, AppImage) “solve” the problem by completely ignoring it altogether and just shoving everything-and-the-kitchen-sink into one blob – which works great as long as storage remains cheap or you’re not trying to develop for embedded systems
  • GNU has a package manager – and it’s being used in a current distro
  • GNU development tends to be glacial even compared to something like Debian – the GNU kernel is 33 years old at this point …
toothbrush,
@toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

doesnt guix use the guix package manager?

Shoutout to the guix package manager, its really cool!

cerement,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

had to doublecheck myself …

  • yes, Guix uses the Guix package manager
  • but apparently the Guix package manager is built off (at least the concept) of Stow ?
  • [and then some people also seem to like using Stow and Guix together (similar to using Home Manager with Nix package manager)]
toothbrush,
@toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Interresting. I didnt know it was using stow somewhere! Btw there is a guix home since last year, that works similar to nix home manager.

Kusimulkku,

Flatpak uses runtimes, which is sorta a middle point between traditional package way and and bundling everything. Quite a nice compromise imo

bizdelnick, in I'm ditching htop for btop, look how cool it is

Both are useless toys for newbie sysadmins who think their job is sitting and looking at list of processes.

Aatube,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

I mean, you do sometimes need to check out which processes are running to debug

bizdelnick,

Aren’t top or pgrep enough for that?

Aatube,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

If it looks better and does the same thing efficiently, I’ll take the thing that looks better.

bizdelnick,

You have a pre-installed tool and a tool that looks better but which you need to install. When you need it for a rare task, and you administer many machines, it is easier to use what you already have on each of them.

Aatube,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

Do these programs not work over SSH?

bizdelnick,

Sorry, I don’t understand what you are talking about. Yes, you can run them in SSH session. No, you still need to have them installed on the remote machine to do this. And installing diagnostic tools is not only time consuming, sometimes it can be even impossible if you already get in troubles (and if you did not, why would you need them?).

Aatube,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

Hmm, that’s a fair argument. I’m pretty sure new server installations can just have their default program list modified though.

WuTang,
@WuTang@lemmy.ninja avatar

It’s not even about sysadmins, it’s just hacker wannabe. tomorrow they will say “coz I waNt to maSter mo sYstem”.

yep good luck in auditing the 1.5k packages installed on your system.

Locrin,

Cringe take. I’ts just a fun pretty system monitor tool. I work as a senior cloud architect. I have 10 years of pretty heavy professional and home Linux usage and I just installed it on my home server because I have a unused 1/3 on one of my monitors at home where it can just live forever inside tmux.

It’s fun to see Plex take more resources because someone started a stream, or see the different parts of kubernetes working when I start a few containers. I have also added a drive to my btrfs raid so I was interested in seeing what kinda load the re balance did on the system over time. Turns out not much. It’s a fun tool.

I use different tools on the several Azure environments I am part of maintaining lol.

BestBouclettes,

Nice gatekeeping.

TankieTanuki,

I use it to find a process quickly and send a SIGTERM. I’m probably a noob though.

bizdelnick,

Why not top? pkill? killall? These tools are usually installed by default.

TankieTanuki,

Why not indeed.

ReversalHatchery,

It is, for them.

4am, in I'm ditching htop for btop, look how cool it is

I just wish there was a .deb package.

Still gonna get around to making a playbook for installing it someday. btop (and it’s predecessors) are awesome.

caseyweederman,

There’s a deb in Ubuntu Universe.
Oh heck, it’s in Debian Bookworm too, and Bullseye-Backports.
Debs all around.

4am,

I could have sworn I checked and didn’t find it. I’ll look again, maybe I did something wrong

dan, in I'm ditching htop for btop, look how cool it is
@dan@upvote.au avatar

This looks great! Thanks for the recommendation.

I like Netdata because it’s web based, has a large number of metrics, you can pan/zoom the graphs, and it doesn’t use much CPU power. Console UIs are nice but they’re more limiting than something web-based.

257m,

Perhaps someone can implement something w3mimage or sixels in btop for pannable graphs. Don’t know how efficient that is.

SpaceNoodle, in I'm ditching htop for btop, look how cool it is

Meanwhile, every system (even Android) has good ol’ top. It works.

yum13241,

It can’t even kill processes.

SpaceNoodle,

That’s what kill is for …

yum13241,

And then I forget the pid.

SpaceNoodle,

It should be in the terminal right next to the one you have open for issuing the kill command

Don’t tell me that you’re only using a single terminal window

0x0,

That’s what pkill is for.

scytale, in Fedora or Mint for noob?

Mint is like 99% plug and play on most laptops, so I’d recommend they go that route.

Lexam, in Linux empowered coffee, a must have.

Moccamaster, this is the way.

bitsplease,

Drinking coffee from my Moccamaster as I type 👌

Only drip machine I’ve found that can rival a good Ole fashioned pourover

slowbyrne, in Fedora or Mint for noob?
@slowbyrne@beehaw.org avatar

As a few have already mentioned, a Debian based distro is a good choice, and you Mentioned vanilla Ubuntu isn’t ideal do to prioritizing snaps, I would then suggest Pop!_OS or Mint. I like what System76 (Pop) is doing with their scheduler and the upcoming Cosmic DE (written in Rust and should see an alpha early next year).

pete_the_cat, in I'm ditching htop for btop, look how cool it is

Nice, I’ve tried gtop and atop before and they were pretty nice, but I usually fall back to htop because old habits die hard. I’ll give this a go!

MonkderZweite, in I'm ditching htop for btop, look how cool it is

has more empty space. Can the user change that?

Kwdg,

You can collapse the subwindows and configure the graphs

MonkderZweite,

Oh, good.

beejjorgensen, in Bcachefs (A Linux file system) has lost a major sponsor, and is looking for funding
@beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It would be excellent if he could get fully funded through Patreon. I chipped in a bit, and I don’t even use it–looks like a cool approach, though. There have to be enough enthusiasts out there to pitch in enough cups of coffee to cover his dev time.

teawrecks,

I’m not sure how much of a cut Patreon takes, but it seems like there would be better options out there for non-profit foss projects, no? Liberapay maybe?

beejjorgensen,
@beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Even though librapay doesn’t take a cut, the providers they use do. Someone is taking a cut; I just try to make it smallest with the least-shitty company. :) But it’s tough, as a buyer, to find ways to pay people. I really wish creators would have obvious tip jars, and there was a standard way to tag them in HTML so search engines could find them.

PseudoSpock, in Fedora or Mint for noob?
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

6 in one, half a dozen the other. Both are good.

beta_tester, in I'm ditching htop for btop, look how cool it is

Crazy

Skelectus, in Fedora or Mint for noob?
@Skelectus@suppo.fi avatar

As a fedoraman myself, I think Pop!_OS is a great option.

But are you doing this because your friend wants linux or because you want it? It’s okay to recommend it but don’t push it if they don’t need it.

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