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cashews_best_nut, in Every god damn time!

I use btrfs. Is there a reason I’d want subvolumes? What are they for? Why not just use partitions?

0x4E4F,

Snapshot software works with subvolumes, not with partitions.

ayaya, (edited ) in Accurate?
@ayaya@lemdro.id avatar

I have been using the same Arch installation for about 8 years. The initial installation/configuration is the only time consuming part. Actual day-to-day usage is extremely easy.

Maybe this is no longer the case but I previously used Ubuntu and it was actually much more annoying in comparison, especially when upgrading between major revisions or needing to track down sources/PPAs for packages not in the main repos. Or just when you want something more up-to-date than what they’re currently shipping.

The rolling release model + the AUR saves so much time and prevents a lot of headaches.

corrupts_absolutely,

had same experience with ubuntu, just outdated packages. outside of two major breaks that were announced beforehand arch has been just fine

tourist,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

You may have just sold me on Arch.

I have never been able to hold down an Ubuntu install for very long without getting that dreaded you have held broken packages scold.

thisbenzingring,

You can follow the wiki guide and really have a solid systems that is just yours. That will take some time and can be a little frustrating.

Or use the installer script they have included for a year or more now and get to a working desktop in 20-30 minutes.

But if you feel the need to trim down the scripted version, you can make it just a strong as the step-by-step install in a few hours.

I have used the same step-by-step based on the wiki install since 2016, on my daily driver laptop

SuperIce,

Yeah, I love Arch for the same reasons. Try installing it in a VM and using it a bit, and you’ll see that it’s quite an easy OS to use now.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Same Gentoo installation for last 5 years.

Here’s BTWOS for you:

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2021/12/9/2761879.png

Rustmilian, in Accurate?
@Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

archinstall

carbonara,

I’m the only person who fails 2/3 times, once it didn’t encrypt, the second didn’t install nvidia drivers

hellfire103,
@hellfire103@sopuli.xyz avatar

That’s why I ended up installing ArcoLinux on my ThinkPad: it uses Calamares.

CalicoJack,

It isn’t just you, it failed on me enough times that I’ll never touch it again. I either manually install raw Arch, or use EndeavourOS instead for a “lazy” install.

Rustmilian, (edited )
@Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

Open a Bug Report

uis, (edited ) in Firefox crash log
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2015/10/3/993307.png

Image of Firefox blue pony with yellow and orange mane in front of blue globe, which looks like Firefox logo. She has firefox logo on her flank.

lemmesay, (edited )
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

how do I unsee it?


I’d also like if you added a description for this to help screen readers.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

You can unsee it here.


Done

KISSmyOS,

yayponies.no/videos

Nope.

Otherwise_Direction7,

Is this a ‘yarr’ website dedicated solely for My Little Pony episodes?

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Yes

mariusafa,

The fuck is this shit.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Firefox

Kase,

Image of Firefox blue pony with yellow and orange mane in front of blue globe, which looks like Firefox logo. She has firefox logo on her flank.

mariusafa,

Good bot :)

QuazarOmega,

This was unexpected

…whare do we get more?

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar
QuazarOmega,

Ngl I’m even more confused, but they are cool anyway

uis, (edited )
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Also there this one.

And there is KDE mascot. Dark wallpaper version.

QuazarOmega,

Saw it! That one goes hard

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

As I mentioned before KDE, my pfp, install cd version, Arch 1, Arch 2 and Nix

devilish666,
uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2014/5/22/633313.png

Image of yellow pony with orange mane surrounded by fire with firefox logo on her flank

devilish666,
uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

What? More Firefox?

rostby, (edited )

You called it it’s flank bruh what goin on on lemmy these days 💀

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

If I didn’t say flank, I would need to explain what cutiemark is.

ceiphas, in Accurate?

I miss gentoo in your diagram

RootBeerGuy,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I guess it would have to be the third option after yes and no.

Pacmanlives,

They think Kali(Debian Based) is harder than Gentoo I guess…… I miss seeing Slackware on these lists too

uis, (edited )
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Here:

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2020/9/24/2451774.png

“Are you bookhorse?” -> “Yes”

stjobe, (edited ) in You should

Heh, haven’t seen the bash forkbomb in close to two decades… Thanks for the trip down memory lane! :)

Bizarroland, (edited )
@Bizarroland@kbin.social avatar

You know how I know I've gotten better at using linux?

I saw the command and read it and figured out what it was although I've never been exposed to a fork bomb before in my life.

I was like okay, this is an empty function that calls itself and then pipes itself back into itself? What the hell is going on?

I will say that whoever invented this is definitely getting fucked by roko's basilisk, though. The minute they thought of this it was too late for them.

barsoap, (edited )

99.999% of that function’s effectiveness is that unix shell, being the ancient dinosaur it is, not just allows : as a function name but also uses the exact same declaration syntax for symbol and alphanumeric functions:


<span style="color:#323232;">foo(){ foo | foo&amp; }; foo
</span>

is way more obvious.

EDIT: Yeah I give up I’m not going to try to escape that &

FIST_FILLET, (edited ) in Accurate?

i’m gonna get crucified for giving apple a single benefit of a doubt but i think there are just as many windows users who “fear technology” as mac ones. think of all the grandparents running shitty dollar store pcs. mac is only a walled sandbox until you turn off the safeguards, then you can see exactly as much dumb back-end shit as you can on windows

Murdoc,

I think this is sdvice on what you should do, not what people actually do. This would be why there is such a big industry for windows tech support. Tldr: Windows: Be afraid, very afraid.

ArieTheFloof, in Repurposing your laptop trans rights style 😎🏳️‍⚧️

I have done this

humanplayer2,
@humanplayer2@lemmy.ml avatar

As a ThinkPad aesthetics enthusiast, I squint.

bjoern_tantau, in Every god damn time!
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I thought the flexibility of BTRFS was that you could basically always add subvolumes. Shows what I know.

0x4E4F,

Yes, you can, but now I have to move the entire install to a subvolume, risking borking the install 😒.

zzzz,

Or, ya know, just reinstall right quick.

0x4E4F,

Yeah, I’m thinking between that and rsync-ing to a new subvolume… the install is just bare bones, almost nothing was set up.

Ooops,
@Ooops@kbin.social avatar

Yes, you can. But the usual setup is to have a file system root that is nothing but subvolumes, which you can then use and mount basically as if they were independent partitions. But when you don't create a root subvolume for your system root first, you install the system directly on the file system root alongside created subvolumes. This tends to get messy as strictly speaking the file system root is a subvolume, too. So now you have that with your system installed and all other subvolumes nested inside it.

Chewy7324,

Yes. Usually the OS installer takes care of creating a root and home subvolume. Except Arch and similar barebones installer have instructions in the wiki.

Johanno, in Every god damn time!

Hold on a minute. I can do subvolumes without partitioning?

0x4E4F,

Yep, you just add/remove them with btrfs tools.

Chewy7324,

A single btrfs partition on a drive with multiple subvolumes is the way to go.

olutukko, in the main differences!!

What about window manager people? Like i3 etc

aleq,
@aleq@lemmy.world avatar

You won’t be able to catch one on camera.

vsh, in Year of Linux on the Desktop
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Copium. 2024 goes to 🪟1️⃣1️⃣

Again.

hperrin, in Every god damn time!

Ok, I don’t get it. Can you explain it to me?

0x4E4F,

Timeshift works only with BTRFS subvolumes, thus, if you wanna have backups (snapshots), you have to have subvolumes and not install in the root of a BTRFS filesystem 😔.

rostby,

Immutable distros rejoice 😎

0x4E4F,

Take way too much space… I dual boot on the same drive 🤷.

Turun,

If you want to you can just create a new subvolume, mount it temporarily and move all your files from root to there. Then you need to figure out how to make the new subvolume your root directory upon boot and you are done.

0x4E4F, (edited )

I know how to do that, you set the subvolume as the default one, thus, when mounting, if no options are passed, it always mounts that subvolume as root.

But, you have to disable that. Sure, I set it during install, cuz installers are stupid (if you tell it to install in /@, it will most probably moan), but disable it after first run (set the real root as the default subvol, i.e. mount point) and just add subvol mount options in fstab.

It’s just extra steps I have to do now 😒, that’s why the rant.

PrecisePangolin,

Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

eager_eagle,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

That’s only to backup/rollback the root though, right? If one’s looking to backup - say - their home dir, they can just recreate the home as a subvolume without reinstalling the system. Or am I mistaken?

AnonStoleMyPants,

You can definitely do this with a few commands.

raldone01, (edited )

github.com/…/btrfs_folder_to_subvol.fish

Because I often forget to do it I wrote a little helper script.

This file can be run or sourced and only depends on btrfs-progs and fish.

0x4E4F,

Awww man, thanks ☺️.

Good thing I love fiish, it’s my default shell 😉.

0x4E4F,

Yes, you can just set it to mount a, let’s say @home, subvolume to /home and that’s that, done.

reflex, (edited )
@reflex@kbin.social avatar

Timeshift

Oh okey so if I have Snapper already, nothing I need to worry about?

valveman,

Snapper also uses btrfs subvolumes to create snapshots, so if you did create them during your installation process, nothing to worry about.

I don’t remember if there is a way to create them after the installation, neither if it’s a tough process tho. I used to simply reinstall when I messed up with the subvolumes.

backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

sudo btrfs subvolumes create /path/to/subvolume

If you don’t configure anything, root will already be a subvolume.

If you wanna make a used directory a subvolume, you have to move the contents first, and move them back after creation.

The only thing that takes time here is the move

0x4E4F, (edited )

Yeah, but Timeshift uses the Ubuntu style subvolume naming, @ for root, @home for /home, so you have to create them that way, otherwise, it won’t work. It can work if you tell it to ignore home, but checks for @ as root on start up.

domi, (edited )
@domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

Check out Btrfs Assistant. It does what Timeshift does with a similar UI but works with any subvolume layout.

0x4E4F,

Hm, will check it out, thanks for the suggestion 😉.

backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Wasn’t aware of that, using snapper for my snapshotting needs.

0x4E4F, (edited )

I haven’t tried it. Does it have like daily, weekly, monthly snapshots setup?

backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

You can have hourly, daily, weekly, monthly and yearly. I also use snap-pac to make snapshots before and after pacman transactions.

Check out wiki.archlinux.org/title/Snapper

Telodzrum, in Accurate?

Why are both Debian and Debian: Kidz Edition on there?

visor841,

Some people have kids, I guess.

spez, in Where they went Tim?

They had a mac version if I remember correctly and then killed that when they sued apple.

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