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Semi-Hemi-Demigod, in Accurate?
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

Accurate for a Linux meme, yes.

Accurate in real life? No.

d00phy,

Thank you! So I CARE about my privacy, so ChromeOS is on the table!?

HStone32, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

Ehh, I’m not sure. In my experience, apple users are too tech illiterate to have any opinions on windows, not even incorrect ones.

olympicyes,

Linus Torvalds uses MacBooks.

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

My stepdad used iMac because he doesn’t like Windows.

helpmyusernamewontfi,

Yet everytime you open Twitter they act like they know what they’re talking about and send clown emojis whenever someone responds with a counter argument

Pantherina,

Haha yup it sucks

rottingleaf,

Well, “tech illiterate” is relative. Some people may be ignorant of how their desktop works, but do wonderful things with PD or something else for synthesizing music, which requires knowing lots of math and music theory and signal processing.

Never be arrogant, please remember than people doing actual stuff - developers, business analysts, musicians, artists etc, and even lowly office workers sometimes, - are kinda more important than IT personnel. There are of course infrastructure and network admins who know their sh*t quite well and get paid accordingly.

MrShankles,

I got haggled for being a macos user in college because, “pc was superior”. Turns out, that the CompSci people that gave me shit about my Mac, didn’t understand the difference between “PC” and "Windows’. My MacBook is still the best laptop I’ve ever owned. It literally survived having beer being pulled into it’s fan, and it’s battery turned into a balloon long ago… it still runs fine, almost a decade later (if I keep it plugged in). I was “tech illiterate” to people because I used a MacBook. But switching from windows to mac, got me comfortable with trying linux. It got me comfortable with being uncomfortable, because I was constantly trying to figure out how to “get this to work on macos”

I’ve met a lot of tech-illiterate people over the years… and they all gave me less shit about trying something different.

I don’t use arch btw

corrupts_absolutely, in Accurate?

pop os users dont eat their salad omg

metaStatic,

carnivore btw

carpelbridgesyndrome, (edited ) in the main differences!!

Something about making their own version of every app and than naming it k-something makes me think it’s a cult.

radix,
@radix@lemm.ee avatar

Excuse me, it’s called a kult.

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, I wouldn’t get on my high horse about that, Gnome apps used to be G- or Gnome-something for a long, long time.

Now they’re just some stock generic name that assumes “why would anyone ever use any other program for music except Music, or videos except Videos?”. Pretty much like Apple.

C_raven, (edited )

Worse than that, if you’re looking for the program in the terminal like when you install the thing it’s still called the old name, like:

Files > nautilus
Disk usage analyzer > baobab

They used to have character. The k- naming scheme is just a hint that isn’t a qt app really.

embed_me,
@embed_me@programming.dev avatar

Archive Manager > fileroller

Murdoc,

Oh no, they know about the Kult! Burn the kompound!

bingbong,

The Kool Kids Klub will never fall!

dan, (edited )
@dan@upvote.au avatar

We wouldn’t have Safari (Webkit) or Chrome (Blink) today if it weren’t for Konqueror and KHTML! Webkit is a fork of KHTML, and Blink is a fork of Webkit.

Holzkohlen,

What in the world are you on about? Kandalf be praised

Kedly, (edited ) in This truly is the year of the linux desktop

I myself have gotten 2 friends to get a steam deck that otherwise would have gotten a windows laptop (or a switch =P), and am working on a 3rd

MrMamiya, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

I wish every time someone talked shit about operating systems they woke up having switched OS with their grandmother.

MonkderZweite,

AfterliveOS?

Manifish_Destiny,

She can’t rice worth shit.

nadram,
@nadram@lemmy.world avatar

Amen. Getting tired of this pointless bashing. They each have their flaws. I would love to be all-in on Linux but will probably never get there.

deus,

Good thing I installed Mint on her PC then.

MrMamiya,

I called her and convinced her to switch to DOS. Now you can play Chuck Yeager’s air combat. You’re welcome.

TopRamenBinLaden,

Commander Keen, ftw.

dezmd, (edited )
@dezmd@lemmy.world avatar

Zzt and Mechwarrior, thank u drive thru.

OtakuAltair,

Same lmao, but for both my grandparents

They still haven’t noticed anything different.

Honytawk,

They definitely have, they are just being nice.

OtakuAltair,

You gravely underestimate my grandparents’ inexperience with tech.

Mint is just Windows 10 but Linux anyway for normal use

Aasikki, (edited )

Cinnamon:

– Mom can we get windows?

– We already have windows at home.

MajorHavoc,

I would be so okay with this. My grandmother was a boss with a badass gaming rig.

Pantherina,

What does that mean? Have the OS she had? Windows 10, I personally debloated it haha

MrMamiya,

No fair you cheated. She clicked an update for windows 11 and she loves Cortana!

Aasikki,

I would have iPadOS 💀 Thankfully I hate all OS’s equally.

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

I don’t think my grandmother used computers

pewpew, in This truly is the year of the linux desktop
@pewpew@feddit.it avatar

Linux users are coming

Hubi, in Useless messenger

I wouldn’t install it on my system in any case.

doofer_name,

Same. No sane linux user should.

Und: Hubi ist Linux Nutzer konfirmiert. - 2023, koloriert

Hubi,

👀

Jagermo,

Element one via bridges and run WhatsApp on an old phone - that’s the most I will allow an app from meta in my enviroment

miss_brainfart,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

But please tell your contacts that you’re using bridges, if you haven’t already.

You are effectively giving away encryption keys to a third party, since those messages need to be decrypted and re-encrypted mid-transit.
Everyone who is part of the chats you use bridges with deserves to know about that fact, at least.

RmDebArc_5,
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t like WhatsApp, but some people simply refuse to use anything else (“better”) and the web clients can bridge the gap but it’s extremely annoying not being able to answer a call with a person you are texting

utopiah,

Easy, I don’t talk to such people. They can have my email or phone number if truly necessary. Yes, same for family or work, just not using Meta products for communication. Surprisingly enough people do understand.

nitefox,

“Easy, I don’t talk to such people”

so you don’t talk to most people, outside of coworkers, family and other weirdos

T. Care about privacy, also care about having a social life without being an annoying weirdo

utopiah, (edited )

It’s called having standards.

OK provocation aside yes, you actually have to stand for what you believe in. For some people it means not going to a meat restaurants, for others, like me, it means not accepting a WhatsApp chat or a Google Drive share. You also do that but because it’s either so ingrained or socially accepted you do not even notice anymore. Your standards are definitely not mine but if neither of us do push back, then we as a society go backward IMHO (even knowing my standards are not yours, assuming at least some of us do think and act based on new knowledge rather than random beliefs). So… yes it means my circle of acquaintances is not the most inclusive but I do accept boundaries and if it means someone is toxic according to my perspective, they are out, simple.

PS: you actually have no idea what my social life is. You literally can not judge if it’s “richer” or “poorer” than anyone else.

laurelraven, in the main differences!!

Eh, my main reason for going KDE is every time I try Gnome, it feels like “what do I do now” and “where is the program I opened”

I know that would get better with time spent using it, but then again, KDE feels like I can make it do what I want a lot easier

And none of the other DEs look as nice and polished, which, I know, that’s not the important part … But dammit, I’m gonna be spending a lot of time staring at it, I’d like it to look good to me at least

WaxedWookie, (edited )

The last time I was meaningfully using Linux was around the time of Ubuntu 8.04 - my experience was the opposite of this.

When I have the time, I’ll be dipping back in on Zorin (which I think defaults to modded KDE) - I’ve spun up VM, and it seems like it’s worth a shot… I just need to confirm it’ll play the small handful of games I play, find a slicer app, and pull the trigger. Damn near everything else is Web-based or self-hosted.

laurelraven,

Yeah, Gnome is VERY different than in 2008

psud,

Gnome is better on that now, but I have been using gnome since back when KDE was using non-free libraries to be prettier

Gnome probably isn’t the best free desktop anymore, but I guess I’m used to it

laurelraven,

There’s a lot to be said for familiarity and its impact on productivity… Which is why I hate when UI layouts change for no apparent reason other than to be different.

psud,

It’s also good to try and work the way the system is designed for — or maybe to share a way of working with the design leads

Gnome likes you to have several things open, spread across the different desktops, and you really want to know the shortcuts for jumping between stuff

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

That’s why I stopped using Gnome. I loved Gnome 2.x, but then they went all screwey with Gnome 3 so I switched to Cinnamon.

Karyoplasma, in It's OK if you cry

This seems like a good thread to ask:

I have a Retropie and I use wpa_supplicant to manage my connection there. It looks like this: the router is downstairs and I use a repeater in the room next to the Retropie to have better wifi coverage upstairs. The router itself is reachable, but the signal strength is worse. So, as a fallback, I put both the router and the repeater connection in my wpa_supplicant config file with the router having a lower priority. Still, sometimes my retropie clings onto the worse connection for some reason and there is no way to change it but to do a complete reboot. If I just restart the wifi with ifdown and ifup, it will either not reconnect to any wifi at all or reconnect to the shittier connection again, it’s kinda a fifty-fifty. A reboot will always properly choose the best signal tho and I am very confused why this is happening. Any ideas?

0x4E4F, (edited )

Have you checked what bands (channels) the repeater and the router use?

Karyoplasma,

The repeater uses a fixed channel (I think I set it to 7 or 8) and the router is set to automatic channel selection. Do you think fixing the router’s channel would help?

0x4E4F,

See if they’re overlapping, do a survey with your phone and WiFiAnalyzer (or another app). If they’re close or overlapping, set the router to a fixed channel as well.

Karyoplasma,

Aight, I’ll try that, thanks!

thericcer,

Set your wpa_supplicant to use the BSSID of the repeater’s access point and don’t put the SSID in the conf file. Then it will connect to only the repeater.

If the repeater just re-transmits tho main AP’s BSSID and packets, you need a better setup. Cheap WiFi extenders do this and almost always cause collisions, making the overall speed slow at all points.

The best setup is to have multiple wired APs.

Zerush, (edited ) in It's OK if you cry
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

ReviOS for the Windows user. It’s not a OS, but a collection of scripts which convert Windows in what it should have been.

Blue_Morpho,

Works with 11 22H2. That’s a year out of date.

It’s the same problem that all the prepackaged modified Windows have when I go to try them out in a VM. They always seems to be way out of date and with all the security problems of Windows, I don’t want to run an old version just to save the time of cleaning out the telemetry and bloatware. Powershell scripts are more robust for me.

ILikeBoobies,

Just use NTLite yourself

xX_fnord_Xx, in It's OK if you cry

This vibes with me, but fifteen years ago me.

Installed Ubuntu on my first netbook and had to sit in the stairs to the second floor jacked into the single Ethernet cable we had for a few hours to troubleshoot it.

I haven’t used every distro, but it seems like most of them are plug and play these days.

froop,

I just installed mint on a new laptop. The wifi surprisingly didn’t work on the liveusb, but switching to the Edge release with a newer kernel worked fine.

0x4E4F,

That’s why I keep a 20m ethernet cable handy at all times 😂.

Crashumbc,

I just keep Windows handy :p

(Yes, I’m trolling)

BlueDwaggin, in It's OK if you cry

Strange. One of them main reasons I wiped my Dell XPS OEM Windows and installed Linux was for -better- WiFi behaviour.

0x4E4F,

That might be one of the very few cases.

BlueDwaggin,

Possibly. Some XPS models (~9310) cheaped out on the WiFi chipset, which was really bad at reconnecting after sleep/suspend on Win 10/11 right out off the box.

Tried a live Linux install and it worked perfectly, so made the switch as there was no Win-only software that I needed.

0x4E4F,

The first experience with anything can make a world of a difference ☺️. Good thing I’m stubborn 😂.

DerisionConsulting,

I have installed Ubuntu, Pop!, or Mint as a fix for wifi issues on laptops probably about a dozen times over the past 20ish years.

I have never had a wifi issue with linux. My husband has had issues with Linux and wifi in 2007. But that was 2007.

Metz, (edited ) in It's OK if you cry

Printer are worse. try to get a decade old brother to print more than a half page without completely freezing and needing a hard restart. driver is unmaintained unfortunately.

on Windows the printer works perfect though. which makes me quite unhappy :|

wifi on the other hand is not a problem i can remember. even on a 15 year old laptop, the AUR has a driver that it extracts from a ancient .deb and then patches it to make it work with modern kernels. lovely.

camelbeard,

I specifically bought a Brother printer because they at least try to support Linux. My previous one Samsung was much worse, it had Google cloud print so I could still use it. But Google like always killed something people liked.

Franzia,

On windows the printer works perfectly

Well, now I’ve heard everything.

0x4E4F,

What about cups, they have no driver for that printer there?

I have a LaserJet 1000, 20+ years old, only works Linux and Windows x86 😂… so I just set up a peint server and shared it 🤷.

Metz,

The driver shows up as “cups + gutenprint” and as far i can tell there is no other. so i guess that is already the one and only available driver.

and i have to correct myself, it is a Canon, not a Brother. Canon MX300 from 2007.

I mean it is not that big of a deal anyway. there is a single Windows machine left in this household that i can use for print jobs. and yeah, maybe i could use it as print server, that is actually a interesting idea lol.

0x4E4F, (edited )

Try searching online for cups filters. Maybe someone made a custom filter file for that printer that works… worth a shot 🤷. I’ve had luck hunting down custom filters for some obscure printers in the past.

Setting up a shared printer in Windows is (could be) a PITA though… not being able to choose SMB versions can make your Linux setups with SMB a pain 😔. That’s why I prefer Linux with samba as the print server, you can fine tune almost everything to make it work with any Windows and Linux install.

Metz,

thanks for the tip, i will have a look!

and yeah, funny enough i had less problems getting SMB to work between linux and windows than windows and windows despite it being a Microsoft native.

0x4E4F, (edited )

Also, true story, LTSC 2019 can’t see shares from LTSC 2021, but the opposite works without a problem 🤣. It was a bug, they eventually fixed it, but took them like a year or so (they threw the ball at users, not setting up the shares correctly 😒), and I already reinstalled all rigs with LTSC 2019, so… too late MS 🤷… I haven’t used LTSC 2021 from that point on.

Longpork_afficianado,

It’s the newer Wi-Fi chips that have issues, those for which drivers aren’t yet released. There always seems to be a year-long delay between the next gen laptops being released and the wifi drivers for them.

rmuk, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?

MacOS: “The world came into existence fully formed ten years ago so it would be silly to even try running software older than that.”

zerofk,

10 years ago is giving Apple too much credit. They were using Intel processors then, ARM now. For now, you can still run Intel applications, but that won’t last much longer.

More importantly, a 10 year old application is likely to use Carbon instead of Cocoa. Unless it’s an extremely simple application (i.e. hello world), it is unlikely to run.

Then there’s the depreciation of resource forks, a new filesystem, tons and tons of extra security restrictions, etc.

hersh,

Carbon wasn’t that prevalent 10 years ago. 15, maybe. 20, definitely.

10 years ago, Carbon was already officially deprecated, and it had clearly been a second-class citizen for years before that. Most apps were already using Cocoa at that point.

affiliate,

god forbid you ever want to run any 32 bit programs. you can’t even play the orange box games anymore

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

They could’ve easily continue going the Catalina way (you can allow 32-bit programs to run after a warning if upgraded from an older OS), but they didn’t. I don’t understand why they forced 64-bit on Big Sur, it breaks so many old, non-updated apps and they know that.

affiliate,

they have a history of Thinking Differently about backwards compatibility. it’s just like the headphone jack all over again

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