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bighatchester, in You should

Should I try this in a VM ?

Oha, (edited )

only thing this command does is slowly killing your pc

bl_r, in It's OK if you cry

I’ve only had problems with wifi drivers twice, immediately after clean-installing fedora 38 on two different devices. Plugging my device into ethernet and updating fixed it instantly.

MrShankles,

What do I do if my laptop doesn’t have an ethernet port?

Voyajer,
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure about iPhones, but I’ve used an android phone a couple times to both USB tether with data and to act as a WiFi receiver to download drivers in a pinch.

Sowhatever,

Use a second computer or a friend’s one to download the updates, get a USB ethernet adapter (a 100mbps one is like $5), put the system drive in a computer with lan, tether with another device via USB (phone, pi zero, etc) or use a different version/distro. I’m sure there are a bunch of other solutions.

bl_r,

I guess an ethernet to USB adapter might be your next best bet.

Alternatively, you could USB tether your phone if you have a good data plan

If you are in the unlikely event that you don’t have ethernet port to plug your device into, and no cell service, such as I was, you can use a spare wireless AP to get wifi if you’ve got one

dream_weasel, in You should

Hard to pronounce but ok I guess.

ultra,

It’s pronounced “forky”.

Synthead, in It's OK if you cry

Every wireless adapter I’ve used in Linux for the last 10 years has worked flawlessly.

bjorney,

10 years ago was the turning point. I remember as late as 2010 -2012 having to use NDISwrapper to install the windows XP wifi drivers because there were no native drivers so you had to run the windows drivers through an emulation layer to get wifi to work. Even within the past 5 years I’ve had to compile my own fixes for realtek chips because the auto installed drivers were not working optimally

0x4E4F,

Yes, if it’s on 5 to 10 year old hardware.

Synthead,

I haven’t had any issues with new hardware, either.

mlg, in the main differences!!
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

1.8 gb minimum RAM usage on default KDE vs 1.6 GB RAM Usage on Compiz with all the fancy effects enabled like the see through 3D cube.

olutukko,

Mine took way less than 1,8gb. Nowadays I just use wm though. 500mb idle usage is neat

kubica, in the main differences!!
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

Is the gnome we are talking about that one that for reaching the taskbar you have to move the mouse to the top of the screen and then immediately to the bottom every time?

ReveredOxygen,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

I genuinely don’t know the last time I used the activities button, or the taskbar. To open activity view, I press super. To open programs, I search. To switch programs, I click on them in activity view

kubica,
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

I'm new to linux. Having things at hand is useful because I don't know the names to search or what keys to press.

omnissiah,
@omnissiah@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

You do you! It’s about what works for YOU, not what others think is best.

If you’ll keep using you will cross a point where you can make your own choice anyway (and that might be sticking by to what you’ve been using)

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, the one with great score when it comes to Fitt’s law which plays a huge role in UI design. When you put it that way it seems stupid to go from one edge to the other to reach an option. In reality it’s an easiest target to hit since it’s huge and requires no precision, edge to edge scroll.

kubica,
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

I don't know if my screen is too big or my mouse is at a different speed. But for me it takes a lot of effort to do those big movements.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

For me as well, as I keep very low sensitivity. Am not even sure they imagined it being used like that most of the times. Am suspecting idea is to use Super key to open window preview and options are access from there. In that case it’s on average half of screen away.

But idea is there. Pretty much all OS designers implement this law in some way. Mac does it with their task bar and application menu. KDE, Windows and similar do it with theirs. However I understand your complaint that you’d have to scroll to the top then bottom, but doing so is easy.

jodanlime,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

If you aren’t using the super key to access that menu you are using gnome wrong imo. Three finger swipe on track pad is also a great way to access the same menu.

KDE is fuckin fantastic, but it aims to replicate the windows ui and workflow. If that’s what you want then I highly recommend it over gnome. But personally I don’t think that desktop UX should be stuck in the early 2000s Redmond style. Once I changed my habits to use my windows button on the keyboard instead of moving my mouse all over hell to access the menu it’s all I ever use. Mouse is just a fallback when the other hand is busy. I try every new KDE version because I kind of hate how the gnome devs act sometimes, but I can’t get used to that workflow anymore.

I hope cosmic is great.

reflex, (edited )
@reflex@kbin.social avatar

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  • jodanlime,
    @jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

    Agree to disagree I guess. I’ve tried changing the workflow in KDE to even resemble gnome and it just feels like you have to have a start menu with a taskbar. Sure, you could put that taskbar anywhere but it still operates the same as a windows 98 taskbar.

    Maybe I’m just not used to the KDE way of doing things but next year will be my 20th anniversary of using Linux. I’ve tried every desktop environment and window manager. All of them.

    I respect the KDE project but KDE makes me feel like I’m using a windows gui on top of Linux.

    AMDIsOurLord, in It's OK if you cry

    I have a few wifi adapters from china who only work properly under Linux lmfao

    Did Microsoft actually infiltrate Lemmy or something? I’m hearing of issues about Linux that haven’t existed since the very first days of desktop Linux

    Two2Tango,

    The wifi chipset on my new MSI mobo isn’t supported on current LTS version of Mint - I had to install a more recent kernel, so there are still issues with newer hardware

    0x4E4F,

    Yeah, the Chinese stuff seems to work better under Linux… for some reason 😂. I one based on a Realtek chip (I think 🤔) and I couldn’t get passed a few hundred KB in Windows. Linux fried that baby, it did 1.5MB 😂.

    Nath,
    @Nath@aussie.zone avatar

    I still have wifi woes on my old tablet. Works fine for a few minutes, then dies. Works fine in Windows. I’m about to reinstall on it. Maybe the next distro I try will work?

    AMDIsOurLord,

    This is probably some sort of firmware power management bug that the windows driver is working around. Try and see if you can find any documentation on it

    evilenx, in the main differences!!

    i use dwm btw, gnome and KDE is bloat

    snake,

    Connoisseur!

    notepass,

    I only use the terminal. GUI is bloat.

    YoorWeb,

    Coding in vim is the way to go.

    neutron, in the main differences!!

    What about XFCE users?

    01adrianrdgz,
    @01adrianrdgz@lemmy.world avatar

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/96b2f821-430c-4a16-b7ab-8c2beff80093.pngthey most likely own a room full of servers and everything is customized!

    MacNCheezus, (edited ) in the main differences!!
    @MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

    People who use Windows even though everybody hates it

    https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/224041a1-feae-43a9-98c5-dbd1cc289b1a.jpeg

    01adrianrdgz,
    @01adrianrdgz@lemmy.world avatar

    people who use macOS and FreeBSD!!

    MacNCheezus, (edited )
    @MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

    Technically, MacOS is a BSD

    MartinXYZ,

    So is PlayStation’s OS.

    Zerush,
    @Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar
    ShitOnABrick,
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    I use windows and Linux btw

    Aux,

    Linux is just an app for Windows. Always has been.

    cows_are_underrated, in the main differences!!

    I use both. What does that mean for me?

    01adrianrdgz,
    @01adrianrdgz@lemmy.world avatar
    KISSmyOS, in It's OK if you cry

    You should switch to rolling release memes, yours are outdated.

    cyanarchy,

    Have some respect for the classics

    Moobythegoldensock, (edited )

    Please get this bad boy working well on rolling release, then:

    gitlab.com/TuxThePenguin0/bes2600

    KISSmyOS, (edited )

    This isn’t a Linux compatibility issue. You bought a device where the manufacturer told you in advance that a driver for the built-in wifi module doesn’t exist yet. It’s a product at the development stage.

    So just follow the manufacturer’s recommendation from the product page: use a wifi dongle for now and pat yourself on the back for being an early adopter.

    Moobythegoldensock, (edited )

    Having the device, I already tether the wifi. But it is indeed a compatibility issue: the old kernel drivers for the chip were janky and it’s doubtful how well they even worked the time. The code is apparently such a hot mess that the people who were working on it have stopped making progress. There is now skepticism that it will ever be fully functional.

    0x4E4F,

    Yeah, you’re too young to remember the glory days 😂.

    KISSmyOS,

    I’m old enough but it’s not the case anymore.

    JCreazy, in It's OK if you cry

    All my Wi-Fi just works on any machine I have Linux on. But yeah years ago this was not the case.

    0x4E4F,

    Agreed 👍.

    DudeDudenson,

    Now you get to struggle with audio drivers!

    Chobbes,

    Audio drivers have never really been a problem in my experience, but maybe you’re referring to pulseaudio? In which case, pipewire has been great!

    DudeDudenson,

    It works great until you try to use Bluetooth anything and need to connect and disconnect regularly (it can literally freeze your entire system), and don’t get me started with trying to get digital surround to work

    pistapopper,

    There’s this one Bluetooth speaker with a microphone that I have, that I had hoped to use for calls, that has just refused to work. Spent hours trying to get them to work but had to admit defeat. But yes, things have improved significantly.

    ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling,
    @ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Mine doesn’t work. Definitely linux’s fault that I destroyed its wifi giblets while moving my PC a bit too aggressively

    ava223, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac
    Pantherina,

    Wtf is that?

    ShitOnABrick, (edited ) in the main differences!!
    @ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

    I use xfce nice clean simple and not overly complicated everytime I try a new desktop manager I find myself going back to xfce as they say keep it simple and cozy

    WindowsEnjoyer,

    How is XFCE nowadays? I am on KDE for the past ~3 years and been long-term XFCE user.

    IMO biggest KDE advantage over XFCE is that everything literally works out of the box - audio, bluetooth, shortcuts (i hate setting up script yo turn on/off mousepad.

    I am using X instead of Wayland anyway.

    Anything changed in XFCE over several years?

    jomoo99,

    Anecdote alert: XFCE recently worked out of box on my 2014 hp Pavilion

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