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Johnmannesca, in It's (usually) already installed
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Just install scoop and install packages in the terminal if you’re bothering with Windows

lseif, in linux text editors

NEOVIM MENTIONED!!! WHAT THE HECK IS A NORMAL LEARNING CURVE

cameron_vale, (edited ) in A repost from r/linuxmemes - Because I saw the original comic

Why does anybody use ubuntu etc when they could use debian?

It comes with like 6 desktops right in the installation. And there are another 20 more available too.

And ubuntu etc is just debian with a fancy desktop, right?

And debian is fast, lightweight and stable as heck. Don’t they use it on the spaceshuttle?

dylanTheDeveloper,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

Only moonmen use debian

fosforus, (edited )

Why does anybody use ubuntu etc when they could use debian?

Debian is good, but people working on polishing a thing from 9 to 5, 5 days a week can do a lot.

x4740N,
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I’m pretty sure they need real time systems on a spaceshuttle

mkwt,

I think the real time requirement can be relaxed for self contained experiment packages. And given that the shuttle ran a healthy number of student experiments, it’s pretty likely that X system has appeared.

I believe crew laptops for email and stuff are also running non real-time systems.

KuraiWolfGaming,

For the main systems, sure. But non critical systems can pretty much run nearly anything.

Prunebutt,

My guess is: Too outdated packages. Debian experimental fixes this, but it’s not noob friendly to enable those. And flatpack is too recent.

camelbeard,

This was the one for me, was running Debian a few years ago, I was really happy with how everything worked.

But at work I noticed a lot of tools I needed where pretty old. Like an old version of maven or an old version of Firefox or npm.

You can probably work around it, but I just went back to Mint again.

Prunebutt, (edited )

It’s gotten better uith flatpak, or if you can handle it: distrobox.

quackers,

because how tf am i gonna install internet drivers without internet.

AnxiousOtter,

Same way you install the OS without internet, put it on a thumb drive.

quackers,

Well sure, but if i have to figure out what to get, where to get it, how to install a driver from a tar.gz file, maybe i just install ubuntu instead.
I opted for fedora instead, until it died on an nvidia update (as every distro inevitably seems to do with me) and fucked off back to windows. Linux desktop has not treated me well so far in any case.

psud,

It will be the non-free drivers package. If installing Debian, also grab the non-free drivers, you’ll need it for wifi

quackers,

yes, but i cant do that without internet is the point

mellejwz,

No need, if Ubuntu works out of the box then Debian also works most of the time. I’ve never had to install drivers for ethernet or wifi. The installer is a bit less graphical, but it will connect in a few “clicks”, even wifi works for the installer.

answersplease77,

ubuntu has firewall protection already to go. I heard if you used debian you have to install UFW or other things on your own

DaBPunkt,
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For what you need a firewall on a desktop-client?

Rooki,
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For everything? You still shouldnt be running all ports open around. As it would ease the work of hackers getting backdoor access.

DaBPunkt,
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So just close the ports (or more precise: Do not open them, as “closed” is the default for most software on Linux).

Rooki,
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Yup, and if some bad software wants to create malicious webserver they can not do it as all the ports that are open are used in a legit way. And thus can not really communicate either one or the other way.

DaBPunkt,
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A webserver listens on port 80 or 443. Neither port can be claimed by a normal user (no port below 1024 can). But yes if you manage more than your own user on a desktop AND these other users are not allowed to start programs on their own THEN a firewall can be helpful; but this is not a normal situation for a desktop-client, isn’t it?

cameron_vale,

ok that’s one thing about ubuntu that I didn’t know.

Echrichor,

Because it’s easier, and is more likely to “just work” using only the GUI. That makes it more accessible to people new to it, and as it is perfectly capable once you’re no longer new to it there isn’t much incentive to move away.

Same reason many people choose iPhones, they can just turn it on and use it without thinking or needing to configure it. Meanwhile those with more knowledge who might actively be looking for customisation may prefer another option.

Fungah,

Don’t you just love how with phones you don’t really have one?

Google is breaking their backs locking down Android tighter than a nun’s cooch, and generally enshitifyijg every garbage product they offer. Where’s my third fucking option?

Vuraniute,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

Pinephone?

KuraiWolfGaming, (edited )

Probably try a raspberry pi one. Custom built and with a custom OS. Not sure if there is a version of Lineage or Graphene that works on it, but that’s an option.

sagedemage, (edited ) in A repost from r/linuxmemes - Because I saw the original comic

I hate to say it to you guys but Linux Mint is really just about the desktop and their initial setup of Ubuntu.

I personally care about unique and usable distributions:

  • Ubuntu (Really excellent foundation for a stable Desktop)
  • Debian (Rock solid but can be dated for Desktop)

There are unique distributions but not usable for doing work like programming full time and other things:

  • Arch Linux (I personally not comfortable updating this distro)
  • Gentoo (I am not high to actually use this distro)
lseif,

sure but for a beginner, those two pros are essential

averyfalken, (edited )

Mint is also a really stable foundation and comes with cinnamon mh preferred desktop and goes hard right outside the box for me

Hand has time shift installed by default so I just have to remember to set it up on install

Legisign,

Well, Mint also corrects some of Ubuntu’s mistakes. It doesn’t force feed you Snap, for instance.

fatzgebum,

Instead it hides snap and acts as if it didn’t exist.

Legisign,

That’s usually good enough.

Lifter, in Just finished setting up my GNOME desktop. Am I doing this right?

That’s not a desk though

RoverRacecar, in linux text editors

nano

momocchi,

Micro for me, though I think it is abandoned now

NorthWestWind, in linux text editors
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People who type like that aren’t worth my time

konalt, (edited )
@konalt@lemmy.world avatar

Are we

Not good enough

For you?

Tier1BuildABear,
@Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world avatar

No. No, you are not.

Octopus1348, (edited )
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You have to do it in 3 different comments!!

VicentAdultman, in I don't need a declarative operating system for my home server... but it would be fun...

I am in the same position too. I mean, the appeal is having a config to redo everything if something goes wrong. Unlikely a debian/arch machines that I setup that I had no idea how I got there and what I can or can’t install/uninstall, lmao.

callyral, in linux text editors
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iaverage vim user:wq

cyberpunk007,

:x

Crack0n7uesday,

!

PlantDadManGuy, in Just finished setting up my GNOME desktop. Am I doing this right?

Reminds me of that sidequest in fable 2 with the evil gnomes.

DragonTypeWyvern, (edited ) in big deal

Just to be clear:

It was actually the young guy throwing the chair in the show. His text is supposed to be saying something angrily at that panel.

laurelraven,

Yeah, that part of this meme didn’t make sense to me because of that… Like, he goes from calmly saying no big deal to yelling and throwing a chair in the middle of it for no reason?

tdawg, in linux text editors

You should learn vim btw

zephr_c,

:q!

QuazarOmega,

:wq

Hominine,
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ZZ

Cowbee, in A repost from r/linuxmemes - Because I saw the original comic

Mint is my first distro! Love it as a nice simple intro to Linux.

Andrew15_5,
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You mean as a familiar looking?

Cowbee,

Sure, it’s easy to get into and install for anyone used to Windows.

Guru_Insights99, (edited )

Why would anyone want to use off brand windows? 🤔😐

Default_Defect,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

Jesus christ, linux isn’t even linux enough for some of you linux bros.

Cowbee,

Because it’s an easy transition to Linux, which is beneficial in numerous ways. If you’re gatekeeping Linux distros, you can kindly leave normal people alone.

psud,

Because once one works out that it’s as easy to I use and does everything they need, it’s a lot more expandable and configurable and a lot less advertising intensive than actual windows

Pickle_Jr, in I don't need a declarative operating system for my home server... but it would be fun...

What have you done to me, I’m in this position myself too because of the picture.

I’m late to the Nix party. I do the bare minimum just for my at home media server. I guess it’s a good time to get caught up on my Linux knowledge again.

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

Do it. Don’t just configure your server, configure all your servers… Forever. How hard can it be?

RiikkaTheIcePrincess, in A repost from r/linuxmemes - Because I saw the original comic
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social avatar

But Mint is better <.<

I guess the thing is "Ubuntu is the friendly distro" but then also "Mint is the friendly distro?" Way back in like 2009 (okay, turns out it's been a little while) Mint was super comfy and Ubuntu already felt like it was in my way without actually being any easier.

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