Wilzax,

I fear technology, but in the “Technology will destroy us all unless we get a really good handle on it” kind of way. I use debian.

TootSweet,

I don’t understand why Windows is on the “no” side of “do you fear technology?”

Godnroc,

Well, the other side would be operating systems you can’t really screw up too badly because they are locked down harder, so perhaps it’s fear of the unknown?

helpmyusernamewontfi,

definitely this

people buy macs for macos or Chromebooks for chrome os because “windows just sucks because it breaks all the time” mentality you always see on Twitter

balp,

Or in the office, the hardware-software relations between the laptop and Windows and in some parts Linux are strained at best, where drivers, power management, and so on get crappy. E.g. after a year or two of updates, it gets out of control and nice things like hibernations don’t work. It’s usually a driver for some small thing you don’t care about that forgot to read the Windows specification change and now it can’t do that power handling in a good way. Oops the computer refuses to sleep and your bag is burning, your battery is 1% when picking the computer up again.

helpmyusernamewontfi,

I completely understand that with windows, especially with hibernation like what the fuck is “windows modern standby”

but with Linux, it depends on the distro you use.

if you’re using something such as Pop_OS, I can pretty much guarantee you you’re never going to run into a power management issue or even a driver issue for that matter since its based off of Ubuntu and is very well supported.

phoneymouse,

Agree. Windows sucks ass. Most professional software developers I know use MacOS actually.

SchizoDenji,

I’d give up half of my salary to use windows instead of macos for my dev work.

phoneymouse,

That’s a lot of money, but same sentiment in the opposite. I would avoid any dev job requiring me to use Windows. Chances are they’re also using some crap tech stack too.

SchizoDenji, (edited )

I’ve seen plenty shit stacks on macos tbf. Windows has better window management which saves a lot of time when you’re juggling between seperate windows.

AVincentInSpace,

There are way more windows power users than mac power users

balp,

I’m not sure, many developers use mac to get working unix tools and working “enterprise” tools at work like Teams and other crap that the company uses for “everyone”. Sadly many of these tools work like crap on Linux and maybe in best case the web-version is workable.

bravemonkey,

power

You’re confusing developers with power users here. At my company, the developers can do one thing well, but are far, far from power users with any technology. The amount of times I’ve seen them get stuck at a simple error message without doing more than throwing their hands up thinking they don’t have permissions or something is actually broken, without doing the least bit of troubleshooting is both baffling and frustrating.

CeeBee,

No, not accurate. NixOS isn’t anywhere in there

molochthagod,

This is a very old meme. NixOS wasn’t popular then (or didn’t exist, I dunno).

dai,

Nix is like 20 years old, wasn’t popular and still isn’t 😅

molochthagod,

Okay, but until like this last year I’d barely see mentions of it, but now it’s kinda everywhere.

dai,

Yeah I use nix 😅

I think the idea of a (relatively) simple or as complex “roll your own flavour” OS makes lots of sense to someone like me. For most people the effort might not be worth the payout.

molochthagod,

i get that, it’s a preference thing

MonkderZweite,

Please describe “having a life”.

bigFab,

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  • force,

    unironically yes, except instead of a lenovo thinkpad it’s a lenovo legion

    MonkderZweite,

    I wasn’t asking about gender roles.

    Smoogs,

    Maybe you should get a life if a someone else’s personal choice for elected gender role pisses you off this bad.

    IHadTwoCows,

    Ya know, I am super straight and masculine but from the outside it looks like being bi or fluid is a fun time

    shuzuko,

    As a demifluid bisexual, can confirm. It’s a lot of fun.

    You know, when I’m not being relentlessly harassed just for existing 🤷🏻‍♀️

    IHadTwoCows,

    That does indeed suck. We’re trying…

    bigFab,

    I don’t hate gays. I could kiss u. But damn I hate pink socks on a grown ass man.

    FIST_FILLET, (edited )

    i’m gonna get crucified for giving apple a single benefit of a doubt but i think there are just as many windows users who “fear technology” as mac ones. think of all the grandparents running shitty dollar store pcs. mac is only a walled sandbox until you turn off the safeguards, then you can see exactly as much dumb back-end shit as you can on windows

    Murdoc,

    I think this is sdvice on what you should do, not what people actually do. This would be why there is such a big industry for windows tech support. Tldr: Windows: Be afraid, very afraid.

    furycd001,
    @furycd001@lemmy.ml avatar

    You can still run Arch & have a life. Arch actually just works if you use it correctly…

    hemko,
    worldsayshi,

    I mean the projector set up is probably using some ungodly proprietary wireless Protocol that only works on Windows 10.

    hemko, (edited )

    Isn’t it just a display you attach via VGA/HDMI/whatever?

    Last projector I used had scart/rca lol

    furycd001,
    @furycd001@lemmy.ml avatar

    Never had this problem, but I can see why someone probably could…

    CCF_100,

    tfw nvidia

    DriftinGrifter, (edited )

    |>be me, 4 chinner

    |>can’t use Linux but wanna Seem cool

    |>make fake and gay shit post about driver not |Working to justify using Windows

    |>jerking it in the The shower while crying l8ter that day day

    |>KEK lul

    |>normies Suck don’t they?

    hemko,

    Someone’s salty their PC doesn’t run Windows 11

    DriftinGrifter,

    average Windows 11 user|>be me, have no friends Boot up my terrible Windows 11 (KEK lul) |>decide to join federated social media instead oft 4chan because 4chan keeps calling me a snowflake |>See Chad with too many bitches and great takes |>jealous.jpg |>idea.exe |>decide to insult him in hopes of getting topped and bullied because im into it |>Chad Sees through me and still obliges |>orgasm and thank Chad mentally

    hemko,

    You’ve been training this skill of writing greentexts, it’s very impressive.

    Disclaimer: this is not a compliment

    DriftinGrifter, (edited )

    just you|>be me (KEK lol),Engage with what is clearly a chad troll to geht my rocks of |>get trolled because im absolutely incomparably unintelligent (kekek Windows 11) |>get mad for getting called out (even though it actually turns me in because im a masochist) |>take bait(lads and gentlewomen we got em kekekekekek) |>mfw |>take the copium anon the Internet isn’t for smegma simp normies like you

    Just looked at your comment history and its just sad =(

    hemko,

    Just looked at your comment history and its just sad =(

    Wish I could say the same, but it was completely unreadable with all the spelling mistakes =(

    DriftinGrifter,

    Beta grammar republican christonationalist:

    “Weh i can’t read words weh don’t Bully me ill cum :3”

    Vs. Chad different Langusten auto correct user:

    “They are real words you know not everyone uses burger units and Cafés about Sperling <(^^,)>”

    balancedchaos,

    I run Debian on my work laptops, and Arch on my gaming rig. They are absolutely equal in terms of time sink, and it’s not that bad at all.

    furycd001,
    @furycd001@lemmy.ml avatar

    Can totally agree. Debian & Arch are totally equal in terms of stability. Any Linux os can be unstable, it really all depends on how the user uses it…

    aberrate_junior_beatnik,

    Yeah, if it’s unstable, they’re probably holding it wrong

    jcs,
    @jcs@lemmy.world avatar

    By Arch, do you use SteamOS on your gaming rig? And if not, what would be the determining factor?

    balancedchaos,

    I’ll give SteamOS a shot when I get my Steamdeck. Until then, it’s just vanilla Arch on my main machine until I’ve seen what it’s like.

    TheDoctorDonna, (edited )

    What if you don’t fear technology, have no life, and are technologically behind and don’t understand what anything but the apple and windows symbols are? I recognize the penguin from an EEE PC that I had like 15 years ago, but that’s it.

    *Sorry I also recognize Google, just not immediately apparently.

    shasta,

    Gotta ask the grandkids for help

    TheDoctorDonna,

    The worst part is I’m not old enough for grandkids lmao.

    SpongyAneurism,

    In that case, I guess it’s time to get educated about Linux. At least to the point, where you understand, that what I’m referring to, should actually be called “GNU/Linux”.

    *“I recognize Google” is also not Google itself, but specifically the Chrome Logo that refers to Chrome OS in this case.

    SkyeHarith,

    You’re a human with the knowledge of a time lord! You know more than you let on don’t you.

    They’re distributions that add onto an open source set of softwares - including a kernel and common utilities - that can be made into a fully fledged operating system.

    Together the family of OSes are referred to as Linux systems since the kernel (the main bit of an OS) is called Linux.

    TheDoctorDonna, (edited )

    Oooh I don’t want to spoil new episodes for anyone so I can’t actually respond to the Time Lord knowledge bit, but I feel like I recognized some of the words you used lmao.

    SkyeHarith,

    Oh the 60th specials are so much fun aren’t they? I can’t wait for the last one!

    TheDoctorDonna,

    I am loving the specials and I am so glad to have “my” Doctor and companion back, if only for a short time.

    SkyeHarith,

    RTD has really captured the magic of the original run. My doctor was Matt smith but David tenant is just so wholesome!

    TheDoctorDonna,

    He really is, so is his wife. And he slays every role he plays. I rarely miss an opportunity to catch him on screen.

    And I am so glad RTD is back! Moffat was fun and all, but both he and Chibnall were better at the short stories that could be told in an episode or two.

    SkyeHarith,

    Have you seen the giggle yet? What do you think of the twist at the end?

    KISSmyOS,

    Arch has been more of a “just works” distro for me than OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, Debian and Fedora.
    Arch Installation nowadays goes like this:

    
    <span style="color:#323232;">iwctl  
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">device list  
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">station *device* scan  
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">station *device* get-networks  
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">station *device* connect *SSID*  
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">archinstall
    </span>
    

    And you only need the first 5 lines if you’re installing from wifi.

    mojo,

    My arch install took some setup to get it specifically right for me, still trying to figure out the final touches. I have the entire thing encrypted and under btrfs sub-partitions. I set up secure boot as well and added it to my tpm. Last thing I got to do is set it up so it automatically decrypts on boot without a password. I’ve been liking this setup over my Fedora setup. I have to worry about smaller breakage every so often, but with Fedora I had to worry about big breakage every major version. Moving most of what I can to flatpak mitigated a lot of that though. I’m too lazy to replicate my arch setup on my laptop so that’s just sticking with Fedora until I decide it should run something else.

    effward,
    @effward@lemmy.world avatar

    Sorry if this is a stupid question, and maybe it’s because I’m not understanding exactly what you’re saying, but what’s the benefit of encrypting if it decrypts on boot without a password?

    Just to prevent someone who boots another OS on your device from being able to access your files? Something else?

    mojo,

    Because changing any hardware will flip the tpm and require a password. If they stole the hard drive, it’d be encrypted. Basically I’m protecting on if they rip out the harddrive lol.

    weiln12,

    I actually switched to openSUSE Tumbleweed from Ubuntu and love it. I know it’s not as popular, but I can’t see why. Rolling release, compatibility, support, it’s awesome!

    milkjug,

    Tumbleweed gang rise up!

    Rustmilian,
    @Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

    archinstall

    carbonara,

    I’m the only person who fails 2/3 times, once it didn’t encrypt, the second didn’t install nvidia drivers

    hellfire103,
    @hellfire103@sopuli.xyz avatar

    That’s why I ended up installing ArcoLinux on my ThinkPad: it uses Calamares.

    CalicoJack,

    It isn’t just you, it failed on me enough times that I’ll never touch it again. I either manually install raw Arch, or use EndeavourOS instead for a “lazy” install.

    Rustmilian, (edited )
    @Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

    Open a Bug Report

    Amilo159,
    @Amilo159@lemmy.world avatar

    Do you use your pc for games? -> Windows.

    Simple as that.

    Rentlar,

    www.protondb.com

    Not perfect but Linux is getting there! Certainly much better than before.

    Mister_Rogers,

    I made the switch to daily driving Linux on my laptop for work and play a few months back with a dual boot setup with Windows, and changed over mine and my partner's gaming desktops to do the same, and they recently got a Steam Deck OLED as well. Honestly I can't say this is true. It depends on the distro, but I went with Pop OS, and it has been ridiculously pain free to game on. I play a large variety of weird, old, indie games, and I've encountered a single game that didn't work on Pop OS that I needed to play on Windows (WRC 4) and that particular game BARELY worked on Windows as well and took lots of setting up and fixing. More often than not I'm finding things work better on Pop OS (GTA IV doesn't crash when changing multiple graphics options like on Windows, and GTA IV and 2013's Tomb Raider both get better frame rates) than Windows.

    This is all particularly notable because I didn't go in as some Linux expert touting the superiority of it (I chose Pop OS because I'm a noob, and it's easy to use), and fully expected to have all sorts of issues. My biggest complaint is that I should have set my dual boot partition for Pop OS way bigger because I barely need to use Windows anymore! My absolute #1 annoying niche issue that I can't figure out is that the VPN I need to use to remote into my work 1) will work on Windows, 2) DID work on Pop OS when connected to my phone's data but not my home wifi (???), 3) no longer works on either my phones data or wifi. Gaming though, has been a cakewalk, you should give it a go. Install proton, maybe grab a glorious eggroll, and you're set, they're support for NVIDIA cards make it equally pain free (across the 3 systems I mentioned we're gaming on Intel, AMD, and NVIDIA gpus, and all are equally pain free).

    Even controllers are no problem, but I haven't messed around much with my wheel, or VR headset though, so we'll so how that goes.

    Blaster_M,

    Quest Link or Virtual Desktop for PCVR? Windows.

    Wake me up when Linux can do that reliably

    Geth,

    Now that steam link is launched and working well, it should be a good option?

    Blaster_M,

    Valve Index is $$$$

    Geth,

    Sorry I meant steam link is launched on quest. So you can connect wireless with the quest headsets. At least on Windows, not sure how well that works on Linux.

    Blaster_M,

    It doesn’t.

    captainlezbian,

    I use Garuda for a gaming pc with no problems

    Amilo159,
    @Amilo159@lemmy.world avatar

    Is it possible to play games that are only available on Microsoft store or through Game Pass? Like Forza Horizon or Starfield?

    captainlezbian,

    I’m pretty sure stardield is available on steam

    Also this looks available gamingonlinux.com/…/microsoft-upgrades-xbox-cloud…

    That said I have no experience with any of it as game pass sounds very unappealing to me as someone who prefers to own her games and not buy subscription services

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    Honestly gaming hasn’t been a problem for me on Linux. It is a bit more work in some games to get them up and running, but windows 11 started waking up without any reason so I abandoned it and think the extra work is worth it.

    But I understand why someone wouldn’t want to go through it.

    Acters,

    I think it is because there is a setting about faster wakeup from sleep or something. I think it also keeps the wifi connected or awake on laptops.

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    No I checked before I went to Linux. There was no obvious reason anywhere and nothing in the logs. It just decided to wake up every afternoon. Whatever, I’m done with the OS.

    Acters,

    You are on Linux, obviously that fixed your problem. But yeah, the setting for faster wakeup from sleep is hidden somewhere, and Microsoft does not want that to be toggled off and may even ignore it, lol

    Windows keeps the computer awake and does not do sleep like it used to anymore. S3 sleep, that is. Keeps wifi connected and all that jazz. Battery drain is significantly worse now.

    tdawg,

    This community has a hard time accepting how little the average person is aware Linux exists let alone how few people consider it an option for gaming

    Ziglin, (edited )

    Have you heard of !linux_gaming

    frozen,
    @frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

    Only if you play CoD, Fortnite, or Destiny 2. If you’re technically inclined and don’t mind working around some issues, gaming on Linux has come a long way and can be used for pretty much anything else. I used to dual-boot Windows for games, then I went to booting Windows in a VM and gaming with a spare, passed-through GPU. But I haven’t booted my VM in months, and I play lots of games.

    Woovie,

    So my options are install OS, install GPU drivers, install games, and then play games, or install OS, read 50 different guides, fight iommu or some other configuration, eventually get it working enough to install another OS in a VM, fight getting that performing well, install games, and then play games with potential for worse performance.

    I love Linux, but claiming these two things are comparable is ridiculous. I work with Linux all day at work, I don’t want to work with it at home when I just want to relax.

    frozen,
    @frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

    The point I’m making is that you don’t have to read 50+ guides anymore. Install a distro with a good gaming track record (Nobara, Garuda, Pop_OS, Bazzite) and play games. Linux gaming has come a long way.

    That said, I understand where you’re coming from. I’m just trying to say it’s easier now than it’s ever been before.

    ObviouslyNotBanana, (edited )
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    Personally I just installed PopOS and Lutris+Steam and everything works fine.

    Norgur, (edited )

    See, that's the thing: I very much mind "working around some issues" in gaming and in gaming alone. I'm as much of a tinkerer when it comes to software as the next guy, but now with a child and all of those pesky responsibilities that slowly pile up as you age, gaming time is
    a) scarce and
    b) the only real "wind down" time I get

    I have time for other things that make me happy mind you, but gaming time needs to be different you cannot dive into an RPG and do subtle story Sidequests and whatnot if you can't dive into the game fully, switch off everything else for a time. Whenever I can do that, any "small issue" I'd need to work around would make me MAD.

    Gaming is the one thing where I don't want the super customizable OS that works exactly as I want that I can get with Linux. I want to press play and be taken to a place where peasants will task any random stranger to bring their child somewhere and any Lord will entrust his kingdom into some random dipshit he just.met.

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    And not wanting to do that makes perfect sense. I don’t really want to either, of course, but I’ve decided that if I as a person who can do it actually switch to Linux that must mean that some others of similar minds are going to do it as well.

    When it reaches critical mass it’ll just become easier and easier. It already is much easier than it has been, but not having time is a totally valid reason not to do it yet.

    Rootiest,
    @Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

    I hear you and mostly agree.

    But at least for my personal experience the kinds of issues I encounter gaming on Linux are typically less frustrating than the ones I encountered gaming in Windows.

    To pretend that either experience is pain-free would be dishonest but I’ve had less difficulties since switching fully to Linux and actually seen a noticeable improvement in performance on many games as well.

    I think in reality if stability and never having to “fix” issues or bugs is your biggest concern you are probably more suited to console gaming

    Veneroso,

    Okay what is the Tux Jigsaw Puzzle one?

    Also Gentoo?

    CCF_100,

    Tux Jigsaw is “Linux from Scratch.” It’s not really a distro, but rather a guide that walks you through configuring an entire Linux distro from the ground up.

    Gentoo is a distro focused on compiling pretty much everything from source locally.

    AngryPancake,

    Linux from scratch, a subdivision of really having nothing else to do

    Veneroso,

    Thanks for clarifying

    thejodie,

    Wait, I thought LFS was long dead (as a project). Maybe I’m thinking of DSL though. Off to teh googles…

    aberrate_junior_beatnik,

    DSL

    What is this? I’m going to be lazy and not search for it because DSL already has multiple meanings which overlap with Linux

    thejodie,

    Damn Small Linux, and DSL is dead. LFS lives on though.

    balancedchaos,

    Yeah, honestly you can replace Arch with Gentoo. Arch is for when you don’t have a life for an afternoon or two while you’re getting set up. After that it’s smooth.

    Veneroso, (edited )

    The Gentoo forums were a great help when I mained Gentoo. It’s been years, needed windows to play WoW to avoid the bans at the time.

    Anyway yeah it was fun trying to figure out why it broke or what portage dependency blew up.

    FartsWithAnAccent,
    @FartsWithAnAccent@kbin.social avatar

    No Mint?

    cows_are_underrated,

    Green Ubuntu

    Littleborat,

    Mint was just some protest distro against gnome shell or whatever window manager Ubuntu promoted at the time. 10 years Iater I use Ubuntu with gnome

    Telodzrum,

    That’s how it started, but now it’s the one that does everything Ubuntu claims to better and with more long-term stability.

    tryagain,

    It might be getting a second wind now as an escape from Wayland/NVIDIA and death by a thousand snaps. That was why I switched a few months ago; all I wanted was to play ETS2 on my old laptop, dangit.

    ceiphas,

    I miss gentoo in your diagram

    RootBeerGuy,
    @RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    I guess it would have to be the third option after yes and no.

    Pacmanlives,

    They think Kali(Debian Based) is harder than Gentoo I guess…… I miss seeing Slackware on these lists too

    uis, (edited )
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    Here:

    https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2020/9/24/2451774.png

    “Are you bookhorse?” -> “Yes”

    dipshit,

    If by daddy you mean business daddy, then yes, business daddies are usually rich.

    planetaryprotection,

    My business daddy pays for my Apple machine and it’s great for ssh-ing into various cloud-based Linux boxes.

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