Glad you posted this - its the epitome of malicious compliance! And a fantastic form of protest too. With Reddit admins threatening to demote mods unless they re-open subreddits, this move takes away that ammo. Additionally, after the initial boost in activity due to novelty, the sub will get stale quickly and users will think of migrating to other platforms like lemmy or kbin. I'm all for it!
Edit: This is what I'm talking about. Here is one of those Reddit refugees now!
Thanks! It still feels weird, I had my account for a long time and have a fair amount of karma, but the site has been going to shit for a while and enough is enough. This feels like the very early web or fidonet and I’m stoked to be here.
Yeah, I think part of the “back to the office” push is coming from companies that aren’t smart enough to objectively measure productivity. That, or they’re using “return to office” as a way to pressure certain employees into quitting (which seems to be the case here).
To add to what @_bug0ut said, some managers are just on a power trip, and they can't be the high school bully if you're not around. Most of my department is 100% on site reporting rather than meeting daily in the office every morning. The only time they ever make someone report to the office is when they want to keep an eye on them and "discipline" them.
My boss was all 100% for stay WFH. All of us are in different countries so it would literally affect 5 people total. Nope. They had a big higher ups meeting with just him and suddenly he has no good arguments for it but he is 100% for "we will all go back to the office". I have a few guesses as to why he changed his mind and most of them start with: "They told you that if we didn't go back they didn't need you anymore."
I've heard that - in some cases, at least - its about management being afraid they'll be deemed worthless when they can't walk from cube to cube to check on people as if they're cracking the whip. Which is silly, to be honest - there's a place and function for managers and they don't have to be breathing down your neck in person to fulfill those functions.
Good on you. I'm on an MBP for work and my company uses Teams... so it's even worse than on Windows. It sets me to Away if i spend too much time away from my main desktop and in a maximized screen/workspace. If anyone wants to come crying about it, I'll push my code up to git and they can look at the nothing they think I accomplished. Never been bugged about it so far, though, thankfully.
EDIT: I should add that I allow for plenty of time for video games or music production stuff or whatever. Sometimes, you just have to sit and ruminate on a solution without staring at it directly.
When we used Teams, a lot of us would deliberately set it to Away all the time. Then you can say "Oh I'm actually here, just wanted some time to focus"
The fake information reminds me of the last time I went to the grocery store. The cashier said to the woman in front of me something like "Thank you Mrs. Smith" so I assumed she was a regular and the cashier knew her. When I checked out I fished out my rewards card and the cashier scanned it and said "Thank you Mr. Richards, have a nice day." I almost said "Thanks but who is Richards?" But then I remembered I am Richards, that is the fake name I filled out years ago but no one has ever used it (and are they supposed to?)
Both are bad choices. When reddit says open /r/pics or else, you just delete /r/pics.
Reddit has NEVER been profitable. It's the classic:
Takes a bunch of venture capital funding
Builds a huge user base
Get bought
Parent company tries to figure out a way to make money off of you.
When they can't, they try to spin you off and IPO you.
You have your "oh shit" moment and realize you actually have to be profitable now.
This is the crap that caused the dot-com bubble in the late 90s.
Their current business model is unsustainable.
They're doing the API war out of sheer survival.
The sad part is, we all went along for the ride, using the service and filling it with useful information, never wondering if it was still going to be there a decade or two later.
Reddit wants to IPO. Having gone through the IPO process twice now with a company, I can tell you, the only thing that matters is money in the bank. The more money you have in the bank, the more you can charge for your IPO. When I worked at CompUSA back in the 90s, we didn't pay any of our creditors for something like 6 months before the IPO to swell the bank accounts. I remember the week before the IPO, we had almost nothing in the store, because we owed everyone money. 30 days after IPO, trucks came rolling in again with product.
This unfortunately is the truth, at the end of the day they will just find new moderators who wont be acting for the users or at least the majority. I'm a mod and although I want this to work and it may still have some impact realistically mods are powerless. Only users talking with their feet can really make a long term difference and there isn't a like for like replacement yet..
Really we don't want to force users off, we want users to want to leave because of how reddit treats it's free labour and content or for reddit to actually work with the subs it's demonizing
That would be true if they made i fees reasonable or at least gave more time. This change caused mobile apps to shut down. The revenue from that is $0.
This change sucks. But, from what I read, Reddit have NEVER been profitable. If they were smart, they would modified the API so it included ads. I don’t think Reddit is long for this world. Even if these protests were effective, reddit is eventually going away. They’re too big to make a profit now.
When you say “NEVER been profitable” is there a reliable source for that or is it spez?
Hosting a link agregator is cheap, it is purely just text. Yes they now host images and videos, and I think they shouldn’t do that if the cost is a problem, also they could always discontinue it.
Going back to the API. If they really need cash they could work with developers. They could reduce the fees and give 3 months heads up like they have been asked.
The whole spectacle didn’t sound “we need money to survive”, it sounded like “we could make more money from users by forcing them to switch to our crappy app, by shutting down 3rd party apps”
Nevertheless, like many IPOs, Reddit remains unprofitable. The question for investors is whether Reddit can achieve minimum viable economies of scale and achieve profitability. So far, there are no indications that this will happen.
There are few other sources that say reddit is unprofitale.
What I’m saying is that their core service doesn’t cost much to run. They could have small team to run everything and would make a lot of money, but their goal is to make it a billion dollar business, when it is not.
BTW: I also find the article funny, on one bad it says they are seeking $15 billion valuation, then it says it doesn’t generate money. So that creates a question, how come a company that doesn’t generate a profit costs $15 billion?
Wow, I totally forgot about CompUSA. I used to love going there as a kid, back when Apple had that underdog appeal. Now I'm a FOSS maxi (just don't look at my iPhone...).
Both are bad choices. When reddit says open /r/pics or else, you just delete /r/pics.
Hard disagree with your first sentence. As @Starmina explained, Reddit would just force re-open it.
And as explained in my comment, this is causing Reddit users to switch over to Lemmy due to the protesting subs getting stale: https://lemmy.world/comment/289241>
Exactly who knows!?
But in all seriousness, considering how large the company seems to be with outsourcing and multiple internal levels of support, it sounds like a juicy target both for ransomware and industrial espionage.
the grocery store I use gave me a card and an application to fill out. I never filled out the application and the card still works. I have the card stored in google wallet. it's been a few years. thanks for the free money lol
Sounds pretty fake, she can directly call anyone who reports to her as she manages them, they have the admin privilege to reset passwords for her. I also work in IT.
In a frantic tone, she declared all of this process to be nonsense (nonsense we had to work with over the last 7 months, so yeah, no shit) and all but ordered me to send her the password manually to her private phone number.
Execs always want security for everyone else except them.
I had to lock an upper manger account for suspicious logins and since I didn’t know him personally I had to get his boss to verify his phone number etc etc, he was cool about it though.
Good for sticking to your guns, you know damn well their would be hell to pay if you didn’t!
I like the malicious compliance but I find that to be a bad way to do a poll. Better would have been one comment with the text "Upvote if you want John Oliver pics, downvote if you want it to go back to normal".
The way they did it if one group only upvote their alternative and the other also downvotes the opponent then the result isn't representative. Or at least could be claimed not to be.
you can't both upvote and downvote the same item. the last option you selected is the only one that's counted at any given moment.
edit: wait, i see. if they're separate comments, you could just upvote the comment you like and downvote the comment you don't. i was assuming one comment that said upvote or downvote.
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