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zcd, in I'm really getting over the enshitification of the internet.

Not to mention sites blacklisting VPN IPs

Sheeple,
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Try making an account without any of the 3 “approved” email addresses ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

“you’re using a sub domain, get out of here you terrorist!”

Neato,
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What are the 3? Gmail, Yahoo, AOL?

LinkOpensChest_wav,

Microsoft (Outlook/Live/Hotmail) instead of AOL

humorlessrepost,

I’ve never had a single issue with protonmail

LinkOpensChest_wav,

I haven’t either, but then there are a lot of popular sites I don’t use because they require an account.

moshtradamus666, in I'm really getting over the enshitification of the internet.

Use Ublock Origin and you’ll be fine.

JimmyBigSausage, in I'm really getting over the enshitification of the internet.

Ha! Recently went to breakfast with a couple of new neighbors (partners).

They were asking me what apps I enjoyed and I told them that I WAS enjoying Apollo. Told them I left Reddit. They sort looked at me. They later said they both worked at home. Their job was creating ad space for the web. One of them gave me the enshitification face. Sigh.

Stoneykins,

What is “the enshitification face”

I can only imagine horrible things

JimmyBigSausage,

It was sort of like you caught me eating my shit cereal face. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

cypherpunks, (edited )
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grue,

Definitely the first one, with the dollar signs.

A_Very_Big_Fan,

Recently went to breakfast with a couple of new neighbors (partners). They were asking me what apps I enjoyed and I told them that I WAS enjoying Apollo.

Lol at first I interpreted this as the waiter asking you what appetizers you wanted

SomeGuy69, in I'm really getting over the enshitification of the internet.

It’s time for a new Internet with some guidelines. Like your content isn’t viewable without account, you get kicked out of the DNS.

4am,

It’s gotta be less general than that; I don’t want my bank account on the open web for example.

AnUnusualRelic,
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You want a bank BBS?

androidul, in I'm really getting over the enshitification of the internet.

True and very annoying in the same time! The web is ruined :(

superterran, in I'm really getting over the enshitification of the internet.
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Meanwhile, I’m enjoying the peaceful bliss of Memmy loading everything in reader mode

bstix, (edited ) in I'm really getting over the enshitification of the internet.

Honestly, I just use the internet less. I’m never going to pay. I can’t be bothered with the loopholes anymore. If it bugs me to pay or subscribe, I leave. I’m fine with them not wanting me as a user, and I hope they’re fine with me not wanting them as a supplier. They don’t have anything that I actually need that badly.

Oddly enough I probably use the internet more than ever. It’s just not that internet.

Mastema,

Weirdly, the only parts of the Internet that I’m really liking these days are Hacker News, Lemmy and the one part that I do pay for, which is Kagi Ultimate. It is very refreshing not to be the product and I do occasionally need to use a search engine for something.

CustodialTeapot,

Kagi AstroTurfing needs to stop… Fuck off.

bdonvr,

SearxNG. FOSS, selfhostable. Don’t pay for a search engine.

PopOfAfrica,

Unfortunately it piggybacks of googles and co’s indexing. What happens if we succeed as a FOSS movement and google goes under?

PopOfAfrica,

People genuinely like Kagi. I dont really see the problem

CustodialTeapot,

I doubt 1% of the comments are genuine users and not themselves botting/faking comments just to inject advertising.

ParetoOptimalDev,

I recommend Kagi at every opportunity, but am sometimes afraid of people assuming its astroturfing like this and not my real opinion.

PopOfAfrica,

Thats just downright conspiratorial

bdonvr,

Yeah YouTube brings me a ton of value and I wouldn’t mind paying a bit for it.

Not $14 a month though.

bstix,

I’m so done with “browsing” YouTube. I also hardly ever click the links anymore when people post them here, and that is because of the ads.

There are some good channels that I occasionally checkout whenever I’m really bored, and I absolutely don’t mind them getting the ad revenue like any other free tv show, but it’s nothing that I can’t do without.

In my opinion, good YT channels who make quality content ought to apply for other mean of distribution that doesn’t scare away viewers. Let’s say that f.i. Numberphile, Veritasium or Primitive Technology were on Netflix or even Disney+, I’d prefer to watch it there. That’s how bad YouTube is.

If YouTube managed to get part of the all-in deals that I have on the other “real” streaming services, then they’d get some fraction of whatever my cellphone carrier pays to those. Right now I just don’t want to bother with it.

madcaesar,

If youtube was a reasonable price I’d pay it. But being google, they not only charge a ridiculous price, but even if you pay that, they’ll STILL sell your data on top.

Furthermore, it being a public company no profit will ever be enough. It doesn’t matter if I paid 30$ a month, the next quarter the 30 billion profit won’t be enough because it didn’t grow from the previous quarter…

Fuck all that.

baggachipz,

And if you buy any hardware from Google, count on it being discontinued and unsupported within a year. Anyone who continues to buy shit from Google is either deluded or a fool, or both.

aberrate_junior_beatnik,

I got a Pixel 5a refurbished because it’s supported by LineageOS. Like a week after buying it I dropped it, cracking the screen. Got on iFixit, ordered a replacement screen, and once it got here spent an evening installing it. No regrets. But I am a fool, so that tracks.

My next phone will be a Fairphone now that they work with US carriers, though.

madcaesar,

Google fanboys are just as stupid as Apple fanboys. It’s like watching two morons fight each other. These mega corps give no fucks about you.

CookieManTheGreat, in I'm really getting over the enshitification of the internet.

The Youtube thing is breaking EU rights and they are going to trial them

This shit can be avoided by DNS blocks, Revanced, ublock (Firefox)

Fuck that all.

Custoslibera,

It’s gotten real bad for me just in the last week.

Videos load really slowly, constantly stops when I play a playlist of videos.

I have had ad blockers for over a decade now, it’s never been this bad.

CookieManTheGreat,

Youtube itself, even in a completely blank Chrome browser, runs like i have 20 downloads running and simultaneously stream 4 animes its a absolute disgrace to humanity.

ChonkyOwlbear,

I’ve been using NewPipe since I found out about it. Ad free YouTube with no slow down that I can see.

Stoneykins,

Really? My main reason for still trying to use adblockers instead of NewPipe or another frontend is that every one I’ve tried is slooooow. Is there a setting I should change or something???

tpihkal,

Same

grue,

Alternative interfaces like NewPipe, FreeTube, etc. work fine for what they are, but I prefer using a web browser because I actually like Youtube keeping track of my watch history and its recommendation algorithm works (reasonably) well for me.

All the alternative interfaces have privacy from Google as a primary design goal, so they want you to import your subscriptions and let them keep track of what you watched locally, but the consequence and downside of that is that it doesn’t synchronize across devices (e.g. FreeTube on my Linux desktop and NewPipe on my phone). At least not without a bunch of extra effort on my part manually importing and exporting, anyway.

TragicNotCute,
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The slow erosion of my enjoyment of YouTube inspired me to get Plex set up and start rewatching some classic shows I love. It’s been a great experience. No ads, no wait times, just entertainment.

ileska, in Cuba no iphone

They are not accusing it. They know it happens and uses it as they please

Haagel, in I'm really getting over the enshitification of the internet.

I’ve heard something to the effect that approximately 80% of all internet traffic passes through Facebook and Google. Unfortunately I can’t find anything to substantiate that claim but it’s sounds plausible.

I remember the early internet. It was a wild place but at least it was fair and balanced. Now every click on every page is designed to serve the for profit attention economy. Kinda sucks in comparison.

Candelestine, in I'm really getting over the enshitification of the internet.

I mean, it’s unavoidable. Everyone draws their own line in the sand based on what they think is “right” and “wrong”, using whatever best tools and ideas are available to them, picked from the avalanche of options.

The line will not stay put from generation to generation, that’s not a reasonable thing to ask for. If we go back 50 years when tv was king, it’s not like all the tv shows were equally good, or stayed good.

So, it’s kinda just on us to seek out and pick the right things to support, and be prepared in case those change too. It’s kinda the whole reason I’m personally here on the Fediverse. I mean, back in the stone age our ancestors had to do the same things, its not like their environments always just stayed perfect. If something changes and you don’t want to starve to death, you gotta just do something. Can’t just wish it away.

Custoslibera,

Death is unavoidable.

Doesn’t mean I stand in a ditch waiting to die.

I’ll rage against the dying light thank you very much.

Candelestine, (edited )

I wasn’t saying it was actually, genuinely unavoidable. They need customers. Without customers, they shift or die out.

edit to elaborate on what I meant. I realize I spoke in error.

Dyskolos, in I'm really getting over the enshitification of the internet.

Haha, so true. I really really miss the “old” interwebz. Imagine the content of back-then with the hardware of today. The dream of yesteryear would come true. A blazingly fast net. Just html with a bit of JS (when really needed). Not 10 frameworks (each used for one function), dozens of mb of graphics, a gazillion of cookies and tracker-scripts and… Jeez.

Today i need so much stuff to fight the other stuff, it’s stuffmageddon.

Oh and if you’re also European you can also fight (for free!) the silly cookie-war.

A_Very_Big_Fan,

Today i need so much stuff to fight the other stuff, it’s stuffmageddon.

The most relatable statement of the year so far. It’s so exhausting ;-;

asteriskeverything,

Not 10 frameworks (each used for one function), dozens of mb of graphics,

Have you seen the old internet?! It would have been even more gifs, music players, and oh the flash websites! Haha I know that’s really not your point but this jumped out at me and made me chuckle.

Mango,

Yes pls

Dyskolos,

Point taken. The gifs were rising strongly, and music on websites was worse than a rusty nail in my dingdong. But still. One plugin today would’ve just got ridden of those and it would still load faster 😁

tpihkal,

At least it came on a free CD.

Ross_audio,

*shiny coaster

Steve,

Under construction 😩

Dyskolos,

Ok touché 😩

TrismegistusMx,

4chan back before the Nazi takeover was like the wild west. My favorite part was “Lithursday,” when we would share images with embedded PDFs of copyrighted content, including rare books, anarchist materials, and military manuals. I often wonder if those unusually large .jpgs are still floating around the internet waiting to be unlocked. I also saw legitimate acts of activism and terrorism unfolding live, without the interpretation and propaganda of the state.

SaintWacko,

Oh man, I remember that. I’m sure I still have an Anarchist 's Cookbook floating around from one of those

Dyskolos,

Oh yes… The rise (and fall) of 4chan. At least the site is still relatively lean, so that’s that 🤷🏻‍♂️

Mischala, in Meatballs

Here’s a free gift.
The word homeowner has Meow in the middle of it.
It’s actually ho-moew-ner
Good luck trying to forget this infohazard.

Aux, in Housing is a Human Right, Hording unimaginable sums of Wealth, is not.

Compost homeless - get free fuel and fertiliser!

Dehydrated,

Compost billionaires - get free fuel and fertiliser!

Aux,

Not enough of them. They also don’t live off benefits, so…

Darkenfolk,

Your sure about that?

Aux,

Yeah.

Dehydrated,

Maybe they don’t live off of benefits, but they get massive tax benefits. In fact, the government loses way more revenue by not taxing billionaires properly than by helping homeless people.

Aux,

If the government loses even a penny, all the hell will break loose.

NotJustForMe, in Housing is a Human Right, Hording unimaginable sums of Wealth, is not.

I haven’t read up on official human rights. Who made them? Did someone bother to ask most humans?

This is a Sunday-morning coffee post, not a detailed world-view. Feel free to ask, but refrain from shooting things down. It’s not like I’ve spent hours on this.

How are they defined, human rights? I’d say anyone in my way to spread my genes keeps me from being a human.

As a pragmatist, I’d say breathing and eating, and perhaps warmth and caring are human rights. We can’t do any of them on our own after being born, and without them some really crappy humans emerge. Breathing should be top tier. Anyone disturbing that should be under heavy focus. Can’t do anything without air.

After that, once we are fairly independent, doing things to keep people keeping me from growing up and procreating should be my right.

Killing someone else would keep them from doing that, so not being killed by other humans seems like one. Killing others would disqualify me from being human, and I would give up my rights by that act. Straightforward stuff.

Mix in social structures, and it becomes complicated.

Being homeless? Build a commune somewhere. Why insist on being near that techno-tribe with internet. It’s nothing but a tribe, has nothing to do with survival or being human. Having modern amenities can’t be a right. Other humans invented them at some point.

Which leads to something no human should have a right to: owning land. Because owning land keeps humans from realizing their purpose and keeps them from being free to be human.

Housing is a right? That’s ridiculous. That’s a technological achievement from other people. So is monetary wealth. How can those be a right. If nobody came along inventing them, nobody would have them. Can’t be a right. At all. That is just the consequences of capitalism and ownership of natural resources.

Grayox,
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Let me spell it out for you bub, i want to: Abolish Private Property

NotJustForMe,

You do? I wonder how that would work. Can’t see it, personally.

Grayox,
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rando895,

Probably important to point this out: private property is not personal property.

E.g. An apartment building rented to tenants is the landlords private property. They have exclusive rights to the decisions, especially economic ones, regarding the building and the profits of the rent.

A car, book, house, pizza, are all your personal property so long as you don’t owe a lender anything for them.

So no private property might look like:

The people who live in an apartment building own the building collectively and have the full right therein, but the individual units are each their own personal property.

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