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ICastFist, in 2spooky4me
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Where are all the spooky memes?

They’e been spooped outta here

weariedfae, in When you set your alarm every 5 minutes in the morning.

Most of y’all don’t have a diagnosed sleep disorder and it shows.

Justas, in Sick man of Europe
@Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

Or never ask a Lithuanian or a Pole what happened in 1795.

ElBarto, in You have to.
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

Everytime I see the word brain, I read it as Brian… I think my brains name is Brian!

trailing9, in Therapy's getting too expensive

Why is there no option to talk to a third world person for $5 and make it a win for everybody? There is no western monopoly on psychology.

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

I don’t know if you can threat people of different cultures in psychology. Like, for example, an Indian therapist is not going to understand the problems an American have because the culture of both are pretty different, and the solutions the therapist propose maybe dosen’t make sense on an American context. Imagine trying to explain to a non American therapist that you have anxiety of being shooted on school or in a traffic incident, that kind of things are pretty foreign for the majority of the rest of the world, even for third world countries.

trailing9,

If a therapist cannot look beyond culture how will they understand what creates the problems in somebody’s life? To get canned answers, a book is enough.

Instigate,

Even within nations, particularly multicultural nations, it’s common to have psychologists who specialise in specific cultures to provide the most appropriate advice. When I studied psychology in Uni we did a segment on psychological differences across cultures and they’re really quite stark. I don’t know enough about Japanese culture to be able to counsel a suicidal salaryman, but I can definitely help others who share my culture look after their mental health.

There are no known psychological truths across cultures. Because our culture heavily impacts our psychology, the two tend to covary. No one therapist can give quality advice to an Anglo farmer, a Sentinelese woman, a Siberian child and a Moroccan man. The cultural contexts just vary too wildly.

trailing9,

Not an expert but this sounds like a behavioral school of thought. It’s a strong statement that there are no psychological truths across cultures. Can you recommend a source where I can learn more about that?

Shouldn’t at least psychoanalysts be able to work across cultures?

But even if knowledge of a culture is needed, there is still the possibility to learn it. Additionally, a view from outside could also be an advantage. Other cultures can have answers to our problems.

Instigate,

I don’t know of any publications that clearly state that there are no universal psychological truths across cultures, but I am yet to find any reputable evidence that there are universal psychological truths across cultures. Hence it’s the null hypothesis that hasn’t been disproven. If it can be disproven, I’d gladly change my assertion, but it’s impossible to prove a negative like this because it is the null hypothesis - it can only be disproven.

Nothing can really be properly proved in psychology anyway because of how soft the science is but also because of the changing nature of the influence of culture on psychology. Even within the same nation or peoples, culture also varies over time and so psychology is always playing catch-up. Social media related mental health issues are a great example - a psychologist who’s been plucked from 1970 and dropped into 2023 would have no idea how to counsel someone on that issue because it’s an entirely foreign concept to them.

Psychologists can absolutely learn and become experts in other cultures, but I think it’s beyond the scope of a single human being to become an expert in every single cultural context that exists. They often become experts in the cultures relevant to them - for example, trying to learn the differences between city/regional/rural issues, trying to understand the needs of LGBTQIA+ people, or learning to better understand CALD communities they’re based in/near.

trailing9,

Thanks for your long answer.

How about repetition compulsion?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repetition_compulsion

Isn’t that universal?

For the service to work, the psychologists don’t have to learn all cultures. They can split the necessary specialization among themselves.

Instigate,

It may be universal, I’m not sure. I’ve not read any information able to establish that. There are indigenous tribes of people who are not integrated into the global world - we can’t know their psychology as we can’t study them.

trailing9,

Right. For the service to work it would be enough if people who live in cities have comparable mental structures.

Instigate,

Sure, but someone who lives in Addis Ababa probably doesn’t have the cultural knowledge to give adequate therapy to someone in Pyongyang, despite them both being located in cities.

Could someone in London counsel someone in New York? Probably, because the cultures are quite similar and share a root ethnicity and language. But that Londonian probably won’t have as much luck counselling someone in Ho Chi Minh.

trailing9,

I am out of my depth to add anything meaningful. I personally believe that the human experience is universal. E. g. soldiers suffer on both sides of all wars. For sure it is more difficult to gain trust and openness if there are cultural differences. But the emotional conflicts that come with war will be the same.

Instigate,

Will the experience of war victims resonate with the victors of that war? Will the victors understand the oppressed and be able to prove their position with adequate psychology? Does the psychology of an occupied people differ from the psychology from the oppressors? Does a person whose culture has been stripped from them require the same counsel as those who believes that illegally occupied territories are their’s?

Many confounding variables exist here that may interact with being militarily oppressed, and therefore comparisons between the two sides are incomparable. I don’t have the answers to these questions. I wish I did, because then I’d be able to secure facts. In this situation the only secure facts are that both sides have committed atrocities and crimes against humanity.

trailing9,

Most countries win a war and lose a war, so experiences can be shared. But among all the countries it could also be possible to pair the winners with the winners and the losers with the losers. But I would expect that it would only be needed to avoid direct conflicting parties.

can,

I’d feel a little bad complaining about my problems to someone working for so little.

trailing9, (edited )

A valid feeling as long as they make little.

Do you know PPP? You make little if you cannot resolve your psychological problems while they can rise a family.

If they earn more than their neighbors and can send their children to good schools, everybody wins.

*edit: made reply friendlier

freebee,

One might actually choose the slightly more expensive fair trade t-shirt after such a conversation?

can,

Secondhand all the way

Godric,

“I will use this $5 to feed my starving family for the next week, what troubles you my Western Child?”

“Damn Doc, couldn’t be me, I spend that on a bag of chips. Doc, I feel better already for not taking such an L, you have a good one 💯”

trailing9, (edited )

A valid problem.

If it is that dire then the reality is that if you don’t call, the children will die. But it’s not awkward because you will never know if you don’t use the service.

The third world only earns more if we buy services back.

If you feel bad that the family starves you can still pay more. But people understand PPP. Your life will be worse than theirs. You paid for chips while they had a real meal.

*edited to remove some snark

LesserAbe,

Chat roulette

PotjiePig,

It exists. But you will encounter a few issues:

  1. $5 is not very much money in 3rd world countries either. If you want to speak to someone with a doctorate you can expect to pay a little more than that.
  2. health insurance almost certainly won’t cover any percentage of a session with a therapist that isn’t on their books
  3. tax. A healthcare professional is generally looking after their own books too. So the only way they will bother dealing with Americans is wmthe incentive of earning in dollars anyway
  4. like others have said, culture differences will play a role in the kind of care you will receive.
  5. recommends for a psychiatrist or meds will need a prescription and that won’t work across borders. You will need to get referred locally too.
  6. a licensed therapist may not be licensed in your country, or worse, may be a hack or a scammer

But it most certainly exists. I’ve got a mate that treats people overseas. I believe there’s also an app that connects you with someone available too. Betterhelp, Talkspace to name a few.

trailing9,

Thanks for the references.

empireOfLove,
stolid_agnostic, in Does mountain dew taste better than black tea? Yes. Does it also cost 30 times as much to get the caffeine fix? Yes.

Umm. Mt Dew is nasty. I’ll take really bad tea any day over that.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

Me too, and I hate black tea

FunkFactory,

Mt Dew isn’t that bad but it’s the kind of drink I can only have once in a while, probably the sugar content makes me sick. Black tea on the other hand, I could drink all day, and is fairly tasty too

terminhell, in Quality OC on Lemmy for the hahas

This might be the case, but something about hot black coffee on a cold morning. The aroma itself is just awakening. I do love hot non caffeinated tea at night though.

nodimetotie, in Pay up

I like the bones and skull graphic, makes it so much more ominous

x4740N, in When you set your alarm every 5 minutes in the morning.
@x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

Who else just ends up sleeping through all of them

Num10ck, in Does mountain dew taste better than black tea? Yes. Does it also cost 30 times as much to get the caffeine fix? Yes.

maybe try different teas? even mixing a couple together?

bappity, in Anointed Liquidator
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he was searching for The Holy Spirit Level

Wage_slave, in anyone?
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So far it I’ve been digging it. There’s a pretty steady pilgrimage from X to threads. Loads of people try to keep it from turning into “X” and that always shows up in the feed. So it is pretty reassuring like that. And reminders to start blocking or muting people now to keep a positive vibe going and your own sanity. It’s been kinda nice like that.

And I’ve only managed to piss off one person and that was by total mistake. We cool now.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

It’s owned by Facebook

Wage_slave,
@Wage_slave@lemmy.ml avatar

Edit: that was a shitty response i left. Long day and I shouldn’t be on the internet.

But none the less, who fucking knew.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime, (edited )

yeah it was shitty. But shitty and right or justified are different than “super shitty and also very very in the wrong and objectively on the wrong side of history”

Also you’re a fucking coward for deleting what you wrote

Edit: to the assholes who downvoted me without caring what the other person wrote, please delete all your Lemmy accounts and go back to reddit where pieces of shit are expected

Wage_slave,
@Wage_slave@lemmy.ml avatar

If you think that’s the worst of the world, your safe plastic bubble will be rocked by the real world outside.

Beyond the complexities of social media conspiring and yelling at imaginary walls .

sounddrill,

🤡on🤡violence

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

coward

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

You’re out of touch with the big picture but that makes me a completely idiotic out of touch moron barely capable of holding a crayon. Reddit really misses you. You’re the most redditty person I’ve had the displeasure of conversing with on lemmy.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

Enjoy supporting those who have no moral qualms with facilitating genocide. Because after all, you’re super smart and therefore it goes without saying that you absolutely require something like Twitter in your life.

Wage_slave,
@Wage_slave@lemmy.ml avatar

“I’m lovin’ it.”

Trarmp,

I still hope for federation of Threads. I just wanna be on my own non-Facebook server, but be able to communicate with that domain. Like with email.

vox,
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host your own instance

junfel, in anyone?

He is an AI.

TheAnonymouseJoker, in Reddit be like
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Old Reddit Redirect, young padawans.

Discombobulated_Back, in Sometimes it just happens

When i go out i dont end up with a nose full of coke but if you like it than go for it.

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