How come it is sustainable when executives or even workers are not even interested in their own product. I know a few devs at some mid sized company and they don’t even care about what they are working on
and you know what, it won’t matter. not one bit. because people are lazy and people don’t care or are indifferent.
look at reddit. big uproar…for a few days, weeks. now pretty much back to normal.
even myself, I still go back to certain communities because they don’t exist elsewhere. and like someone else said it’s not just software or platforms, it’s people and countries, etc. etc.
it’s hard to make changes and have them stick. it’s even harder to convince people to leave the easy and known for the not so easy and unknown.
and I think we’re going to see lots more…lots, lots more. it will be the new normal.
And god forbid you point out the fact that this attitude among consumers is exactly the reason these companies are brazen enough to pull this shit. People don’t want to hear how their attitudes around instant gratification and focus on convenience over absolutely all else just might have consequences.
I literally debated someone yesterday over whether or not it’s the consumers willingness to buy that created the demand for a product.
Dude straight up tried to argue that it’s the company’s fault for making a product, as if they wouldn’t do it specifically because they’re going to make money on it.
This website is full of kids who can’t grasp basic economic principles. If everyone stopped buying, all these businesses would go under. They don’t care about the social media bitching, the only way to get the message across is the only thing they care about.
On one hand yes, if everyone stopped buying their product then the company would go under. Just like if you just eat less, you’d lose weight
But these such oversimplifications that they lead to the wrong conclusions. You want to lose weight? Learn about nutrition, avoid triggers, and learn to cook from single ingredients. Raw willpower can work… But it’s basically the worst strategy. Most people can’t do it, and most of them that do regain the weight within 18 months
You want companies to stop doing consumer hostile things that destroy companies? You need to look at the small number of people making profits on the process of destroying the company
The problem with economics is that it’s taught like a religion. You get nice, believable mechanisms, but not only are they not tested empirically when they’re adopted, it takes decades of being obviously false for the idea to lose steam.
Inflation is an example… Wage growth is empirically not tightly coupled to it - we have the numbers, they aren’t ambiguous. But you tell this to people and they’ll scoff, because the commonly used model of economics says so in a neatly packaged narrative.
Voting with your wallet is the same. Refusing to buy a product does not push a company in a desired direction, they’ll (accurately) see it as a pr and/or marketing problem. It’s cheaper to change the minds of consumers than the build better products, it’s cheaper to lobby governments than to clean up after yourself, and it’s easier, more reliable, and highly profitable to reposition yourself to win big by tanking a company than it is to making it better
Oh, I’m not talking about asking for forgiveness… What I’m saying is that you can straight up make enormous profit in tanking a company, and it’s not even illegal. You just have to do it right
Publishers hate surprise fees, distribution platforms absolutely won’t pay per download, developers (companies) are stretching budgets as it is, and the individual developers are quick to anger and will hold a grudge for eternity.
The stupid idea went forward despite warning from people within the fucking company, no less. All because they wanted to get some of Hoyogames (Genshin and Honkai Impact)'s juicy profits
Don’t forget Hasbro trying to pull a retroactive licensing for all D&D stuff. Oh, and sending the Pikertons to harass a person that got set of cards before release by accident
I mean it’s a bit more complicated than that. In the past not every company had to be profitable. They were just focusing growth over everything else. But with rising cost due to inflation and rising interest rates they suddenly have to become profitable. And then they proceed to make to worst ever business decisions, to become profitable, but achieve the exact opposite.
It’s a pretty severe contradiction of capitalism: When everyone is out to extract as much money as possible, all of it is going to go to whoever the best at doing that, leaving very little for everyone else. This capital isn’t being used to better the human race, it’s sitting in an offshore bank account, funding far right death squads and/or genocides, or being spent on the most vile of child exploitation.
Its simple greed and disdain for their users that they somehow believe if they begin to charge for something that used to be free the use base will simply eat it and be happy.
The problem is they arr charging for a service with attention (ads) and user info currencies that people do not value as much and cannot be easily quantified. This then makes people complacent and lets companies reach for more information, leading to the current enshitification of the internet
If they're doing better than ever, then why are they trying to constantly hack through my ad blocker now in a desperate attempt to show me an ad one way or another? I'm always gonna be one step ahead. They lost the game before they started. But they still won't give up for some reason. That's a lot of resources for a company to spend on someone that will never give a shit and keep blocking the ads.
Full market saturation. They aren’t getting new customers, especially from that ad blocking I won’t pay for shit crowd. They’ll probably pull at least a few customers up a tier, and they’ll reduce compute costs booting the babies who won’t pay or watch ads.
It’s just common sense business. That’s how you make money.
You shitpost on the internet acting like you and Google are buddies and you're ok with your data being collected because you "understand how to make money and find value in youtube."
I'll access all the same content and not be ttracked. Luckily chumps like you will keep on clicking those ads and it'll be too much of a headache stopping people like me from blocking them.
Yup. Thatsthepoint.jpg. See what you did there? You don’t find value, you don’t want to pay, and you stopped. Imagine that. Instead of bitching to the void incessantly you summoned up some will power and stopped using the service.
Oh I’m not bitching, I’m enjoying an ad free YouTube without paying, while I do see value in the service, I don’t have money just laying around to throw ever so willingly at it, while I could spend it on a meal or two.
If I can get what I need for free then I’ll do it, if I can’t then I’ll move to something else.
Nah, my house is probably only 450k in that equation. A nice 2300 sq ft ranch with partially finished basement. The rest is in investments and small business.
Not bad for that age, if you have a mid-sized ranched that’s only worth $450k then cost of living must be next to nothing so ~$1.5m might last a couple years.
Not quite retirement money but in a better position then some.
There are two ways that would happen. One is with IP bans, and even then, there are still ways around it. And if they start doing that, they'll start to cut off legitimate users with dynamic IP addresses that change often. The other is by dropping ad supported services completely and moving to a fully paid model. And I doubt they have enough people who give enough of a shit to start giving YouTube actual money for the bullshit that's on there.
Like I said, they lost the game before they started. They will never shake off the freeloaders without seriously kneecapping their company.
Posted on a forum thread bitching about how folks are not going to use the service. The delusional logic here is way to high.
I think they are doing just fine booting the freeloaders. Even if they push you all to steal via piped that basically a free cache. Mission accomplished.
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