My guess is, since they eat coffee cherries, some farmer had his harvest ruined and washed the seeds out from the shit in desperation, just to get told it’s the best coffee somebody has ever had.
You can squeeze the water out of elephant crap and drink it. Humans figured out fermentation a long time ago. This isn’t too much of a stretch given humans also know that animal poop is usable in other ways agriculturally.
the story I heard (from an Indonesian dude) was the colonial plantations didn’t allow locals to drink coffee. They noticed the civits only ate the ripest coffee berries… bla bla bla, shit coffee was the only choice and it was really good?
I don’t know the history of the photo, but I know some Kopi Luwak ‘producers’ force feed the civets coffee cherries to maximise production. So I can’t say this is a natural shit for a civet, because it could be human induced.
Considering how the civets treat coffee cherries, this would be like if some aliens were forcefeeding you glazed donuts for the same purpose. Abuse in many cases, but it started with a natural attraction being exploited. Ethical sources still uses attracted wild civets or cage free farms
Kopi luwak, also known as civet coffee, is a coffee that consists of partially digested coffee cherries, which have been eaten and defecated by the Asian palm civet (Paradoxurus hermaphroditus). The cherries are fermented as they pass through a civet’s intestines, and after being defecated with other fecal matter, they are collected.
It’s no more than animal cruelty, then any type of livestock farming. What the fuck do you think you get your bacon from? You think the pigs are happy in overcrowded, dirty farms? Do you think the chickens that lay eggs are happy to be confined inside a tiny cage covered in their own shit? You think cows like to eat feed corn day in and day out shoved full of antibiotics? Do you think any of the animals that we use for any type of products are happy to be slaughtered after being fattened up?
If you’re gonna argue animal cruelty, you better stop eating all animal products, and become a vegan. Better yet why don’t you farm your own food and don’t buy anything that comes from modern agriculture because all that shit is covered in pesticides, GMO’s, and all kinds of other nasty shit.
Wtf dude. You give me all of this for a comment with four words?
You either have some vested interests with kopi luwak or you have some serious anger issues. Either ways you need to calm your tits down.
And FYI, all you said might be true but that’s still no reason for anyone to justify kopi luwak. Yes, there are a lot of other ways in which animal cruelty is happening in this world, but if everyone keeps blaming each other then none of it will ever stop.
Not at all. Random8847’s dipshit comment is just so smug and whiney.
Every bit helps, however the corporations are really the ones we have to force to change.
If you haven’t noticed having everybody recycle, hasn’t really done shit either. The corporations that pollute really environment cause in the majority of damage yet we’re telling regular every day people it’s their fault and they should do their part.
Most people can tell you exactly who (other than themselves) needs to change. This includes the people who work for the corporations, do business with the corporations and invest in the corporations.
Separately, we can each only control our own choices.
We delegate responsibility to the people who tell us (possibly correctly) that they’re required by law to make decisions based on short term profitability.
So what you’re essentially saying is the government needs to change the laws. Until the laws change, no one will do anything different. And since the government or essentially behold into the corporations, just not gonna happen.
Wtf is free will even? We’re chemical systems, or a metaphysical soul, that makes statistically predictable decisions based on available information as well as uncountable minor factors. If you rewind time and do everything the same, either everyone comes to the same conclusions the same way, or free will requires an aspect of chaos… And at that point you’re at predetermination - seems to me the whole idea is outdated philosophy
But here’s the thing - statistically, people respond in predictable ways. If every time you do X, the majority will respond Y… That’s just math.
Turns out, humans are super complex, but very predictable. And by that I mean policy is extraordinarily effective.
Free will matters on a personal level, it disappears on a societal level
Vast majority of it is just cheap coffee labeled to be this and marked up for tourists / gift market. Have tried it, just tastes like cheap old coffee. It’s not something genuinely sought after by coniseurs.
That makes this even dumber. If it actually had a good taste i could sort of understand it, in a honey sort of way. Sounds like it’s just a silly novelty.
It’s always about the story. Same reason restaurants get 2 and 3 michelline stars. It’s about how pretentious and fancy you can make everything surrounding the meal and not about the meal itelsef.
I’ve eaten at a 2 star Michelin restaurant. It was definitely theater and not a meal. The Menu is one of the best dark humor movies I’ve ever seen because it’s honestly not that far off lol
One star restaurants are the way. They usually have been so focused on their cuisine at that point they haven’t yet become super pretensious. Plus you actually have a shot at getting a table at these.
Granted I don’t exactly run in the conspicuous consumption crowd, so maybe I’m out of the loop. Cope Luwak was a thing I heard about in the late 90s but have never seen in the world, ever.
I suppose this is one of those products that has a reputation for being expensive so rich people buy it to flex and that creates some demand. Like gold pizzas or whatever other dumb shit gaudy nouveau riche assholes are doing to get attention.
I’m sure there are places in the world where you can forage the shits and have something unique, but I highly doubt that what makes its way to fintech bros in manhattan has any real value at all. Just a cruel gimmick.
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