Jilanico,
@Jilanico@lemmy.world avatar

This has to be the most eat pray love meme I’ve ever seen. Hindus are vegetarian not vegan (disclaimer: they aren’t a monolith) and use a lot of ghee (milk product). That brown dude looks like a Sikh; they are typically not vegetarian or vegan.

UnverifiedAPK,

Unless OP put it somewhere in the comments the word Hindu wasn’t used.

cyclohexane,

I never did, lol

Jilanico,
@Jilanico@lemmy.world avatar

India is known for vegetarian cuisine due to Hinduism. Jains are a small minority.

Bade,

Ohhhh scary, buzzz words… Chemicals.

qjkxbmwvz,

Don’t forget the preservatives!

I, on the other hand, enjoy all-natural pickled vegetables, which are just regular vegetables immersed in water, sodium chloride, acetic acid & trace flavors — chemicals which act as preservatives for the vegetables sea salt and vinegar.

Toribor,
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

It’s literally just heme, the same thing that makes meat delicious. They just get it from plants instead.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Both are good but fake meat is the Pinnacle of processed foods

RenownedBalloonThief,

“Fake meat” is a broad term that can be more or less “processed” depending on your preferences. I made some teriyaki seitan last night that was basically high-protein bread with herbs and spices.

myplantifulcooking.com/meaty-vegan-seitan-chicken…

teuniac_,

Shared first 🥇 with real meat products.

Still rocking a higher life expectancy though, vegans got that going for them.

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

BEYOND MEAT IS PEOPLE! WE GOTTA STOP’EM! SOMEHOW!

kamenlady,
@kamenlady@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t worry. I’ve heard researchers came up with a new food resource. It’s supposed to be super healthy and low cost.

Stay tuned for Soylent Green™

ArmokGoB,

India has some bomb-ass food.

SnipingNinja,

And some people get bomb-ass because of that food /jk

bigbluealien,
@bigbluealien@kbin.social avatar

I love both, I'm not sure I know any real person who thinks this is a competition

Jon_Servo,

Every vegan I know is on some sort of culinary journey.

Vegan btw

Morgoon,

Vegan from protein shakes lol

jaybone,

It’s not enough to be vegan, or enough to tell people you are vegan. You have to be a better vegan than them.

pascal,

You have to be a better vegan than them.

Didn’t you know? Todd’s vegan!

Jon_Servo,

Vegone?

Fades,

That’s because this meme isn’t about veganism at all, it’s about anti west narratives

Hawk,

Same, it’s nice having more options. Apparently that’s a bad thing according to some.

glitchinthematrix,

I mean have you all seen the videos in tiktok about the zero hygiene they have in the street food places while preparing the food, oh my…

winterayars,

Honestly the Indian one should have just been “Here’s your meal.” “Thanks. It is delicious, as expected.”

PolyLlamaRous,

There’s actually a lot of plant based meat that are chemical / preservative free, Redefine Meat comes first to mind. As there is a lot of animal meat that is full of chemicals, preservatives, carcinogens, and antibiotics use.

I would only assume most fast food meals, meat ones included, are not chemical / preservative free. That’s a western fast food problem, vegan or not.

Lastly, vegan people broadly don’t eat plant based meats. Like it get the joke… It’s just broadly inaccurate. Meat eaters, people trying to eat less meat, and some vegetarians buy plant based meats.

Fades,

Very true, great points all around

Now with that out of the way, this is literally just a lame “I’ve depicted the group I don’t agree with as the Soyjak and my group as the Chad, thus superiority confirmed”.

It was never going to be a balanced take

atzanteol,

There’s actually a lot of plant based meat that are chemical / preservative free

Literally everything in this sentence is wrong.

thecodeboss,

Thank you, it drives me nuts when people say shit like “chemical-free”. Everything is made out of chemicals, tell me which one otherwise I’ll just assume you’re uneducated and afraid of things you can’t pronounce.

PolyLlamaRous,

My dude… Says who? You? It’s not hard to Google - you find lists of them when you do.

IntentionallyAnon,

Chemical free food? Everything is a chemical. Not hard to google that

atzanteol,

“plant-based” is not “meat”. Are there “meat-based plants?”

All food is comprised of “chemicals”.

abraxas,

Lastly, vegan people broadly don’t eat plant based meats

I think it’s a demographics thing. There’s a whole lot of vegans who eat “fake meat” regularly or even exclusively. I have a successful restaurant chain near me that specialized in “plant-based alternative” meals, from burgers to lasagnas and everything in between. No it’s not all meat. Lots of “Cashew Cheese” and similar.

And honestly, I don’t think vegans should be faulted for “wanting meat but not eating it”. It’s the ones that get judgey of non-vegans like the other 99% are somehow inferior to them. I know way too many vegans who are vegan for good reasons or for personal-trauma reasons, and they should be left alone. Even if they want a miracle burger and mac 'n cashes.

PolyLlamaRous,

Of course there is. Not saying no vegans eat it ever. It could be a regional variable, but I’m speaking about population as a whole, not your local vegan restaurant. Google says 86% of plant based meat is bought by meat eaters. I also work in the field so have some knowledge on the subject. 86% is about right but could be 5-8% high. But in any case, the people who buy it are broadly meat eater, or more likely “flexitarians” .

And vegans should eat more plant based meats. The better brands are very healthy and it could help them stick to their vegan diets.

abraxas,

Google says 86% of plant based meat is bought by meat eaters

The reference behind that Google statement (assuming the same) is a vegan blog talking about the Beyond brand only, and it’s citing a wordpress site as its source, and the wordpress site has been deleted.

NPD has a study mis-cited by vegnews.com (that MPD doesn’t actually seem to cite), but it includes plant-based milks, and I don’t think that gives meaningful numbers. I’ll drink a soy latte with a steak any day. I’m lactose intolerant.

NIH has the most reliable study, that settled around 2/3 of plant-meat consumers are omnivores. Which is saying something, but is also not surprising from the fact that almost 90% of the world consumes meat. So I think it sorta just runs out to nowhere, with regards to being a demographic thing. Clearly, vegans and vegetarians are more likely to consume plant-based meat than meat-eaters. With 10% of Americans being vegetarian and representing over 30% of plant-based meat consumers, they’re eating that stuff up.

computerscientistI,

Indian food most often is vegetarian but definitely not vegan, in my experience. Also: It often seems to be colorful mud. Some parts of the dishes tend to be way too hot.

sooper_dooper_roofer,

It’s not most often vegetarian either, it just has more vegetarians than other continents

about 25% of the population is vegetarian

SeaJ,

Most vegans in the US do not eat food that mimics meat.

Most Western butt holes cannot handle Indian food that well. The couple times I went to Indian weddings, I was clamoring for anything that would not burn my butthole. The good combined with the ridiculous amount of alcohol made the toilets cry.

zalgotext,

Try a fiber supplement. Or eating vegetables.

bane_killgrind,

As a Canadian Caucasian I concur that we should all eat more vegetables.

SeaJ,

The fiber is not the issue. I’m good on that. It was the spiciness that was the problem. I can handle a little bit of spice but there was pretty much no reprieve.

kameecoding,

there are plenty of Indian recipes that’s not spicy.

but also it’s a good idea to just build a bit of spicy food tolerance.

pingveno,

The problem is when someone else is deciding how spicy to make it.

TWeaK,

You need to focus on the creamy, typically lighter colored curries. Butter chicken, korma, things like that.

RaoulDook,

The anus has taste buds in it, so when it’s spicy enough going down it can be spicy again coming out haha.

But why the fuck are there taste buds in there?

AA5B,

I don’t know, that’s a stereotype that may not be true. I mean, I’ll also make fun of my culture’s lack of spice and spice tolerance, but I’m the opposite data point. I love spicy food, prepare very spicy food for my kids, and on my one trip to India had at least the spice tolerance of my Indian co-workers. We’re not all white bread and mayonnaise

wildginger,

“spicy food” doesnt mean the same thing depending on cuisine. Different types of heat are used in different dishes.

I can eat mexican meals for days and have no issues, cholula and all.

Meanwhile mild indian is usually a treat that sets off a small bomb in my gut.

Also, people make fun of americans like we dont have fuckloads of hot sauce brands all over the place. We live next door to mexico, guys, we have plenty of spicy cuisine.

craftyindividual,

I’ll have you know our British digestive systems can handle almost anything from over 60 years of Indian, Pakistani, Carribbean and Mexican food. When Taco Bell arrived on our shores it was bland disappointment compared to existing burrito outlets, especially given all the hype that it apparently puts an American in the toilet for hours :(

wintrparkgrl,
@wintrparkgrl@beehaw.org avatar

Thats from the meat quality, not the spicyness

craftyindividual,

Yeah there’s a sad story about meat quality in the UK after a lot of morons initiated Brexit (goodbye EU food law)

wildginger,

Taco bell gives you the shits because its poorly cooked meat with a lot of beans, not because the food is good or spicy

MJBrune,

I’ve are fried rice with eggs for protein all week. It’s been great. It’s vegetarian but not vegan.

db2, (edited )

Vegans are great, especially with garlic in a nice butter sauce.

Edit: also you’re literally made out of chemicals.

EmpathicVagrant,

Literally not a single thing in our world isn’t chemicals. Lemontek - chemicals interacting. Alcohol for some party - Chemicals. Every part of any meal - chemicals. All of it.

tdawg,

In general I think people are referring to things that are either A) heavily proccesed and/or B) something that isn’t naturally occurring. When they speak about “chemicals”

Your body is made to eat natually occuring plants and animals. Any deviation from that is risking long term issues. Effects that are very often (at least here in the states) ignored unless they just straight up kill you. And even then it’ll probably take a couple decades before anyone actually does something about it. So, yes while many people misuse the word “chemical,” their fear is not misplaced. You should be skeptical of things that are synthesized until they are proven to interact with the human body appropriately

IntentionallyAnon,

I’m sure cows do not care that the beef in them is healthy

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

B) something that isn’t naturally occurring

  1. Humans are natural. We are evolved animals.
  2. Humans created everything humans consider artificial.
  3. Therefore everything deemed artificial is actually natural.

🤓

tdawg,

Yea yea. You know what I mean

chemicalprophet,

Yeah, that argument is idiotically obtuse.

explodicle,

Is light a chemical?

spauldo,

It’s not a thing.

Granted, there are things in this world that aren’t chemicals. Muons, stuff at the LHC, plasma… But everything that a normal person interacts with is a chemical.

ryannathans,

I love how lemon tek was your first example

EmpathicVagrant,

That one’s just for you. People always go off about it being a natural chemical reaction etc and it’s timely with all the conversation about growing acception of psychadelics for mental health

abraxas,

I think we need to understand what definition people are using for “chemicals”. They usually are referring to highly processed ingredients, with highly processed preservatives, highly processed artificial flavors (called “natural flavors”, but taken for example from the anal glans of a beaver… yes this is real and common). By the broadest definition, absolutely everything is a chemical. Generally, people should avoid any definition for a word that makes the word nonsensical. And also generally, you will find big lobbyist groups using that general definition to shell-game about the specific chemicals they are trying to protect.

When a food-concerned person mentions chemicals, they are referring to things like antibiotics or hormones, preservatives or processed sweeteners with known side-effects. Some of them are talking about isolates, like soy protein isolate to which there are valid health concerns.

And yes, sometimes people referring to chemicals don’t know what chemicals they’re complaining about. And yes, sometimes people complaining about chemicals are complaining that their meatless burger’s consistency comes from methyl cellulose, (probably) completely harmless but absolutely artificial.

The same way some vegans are made ill by the thought of meat, some folks are made ill by flavor- or consistency-related facts in their food. I mean, I think vegans would be concerned to know the beaver anal secretions above was in some plant milks under the term “natural flavors”.

EmpathicVagrant,

Yes! I was merely poking fun, but I very much enjoyed reading through your comment. Thanks for clarifying for us!

abraxas,

Sorry, must be having a very literal day today. My wife says they’re common ;)

EmpathicVagrant,

Don’t you dare be sorry, I genuinely love the energy put into clarification and pedantic detail

abraxas,

That just made my day, thanks!

UnverifiedAPK,

✅ Peppers

❌ Capsaicin

YW

dojan,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

I’m a vegetarian, but feel free to cover me in butter and smother me in garlic anyway.

unoriginalsin,

Ah yes! Herbs and spices, the original chemicals and preservatives.

Muhr,

With the power of spices… I lived in an apartment with Indians as neighbours 2 floors beneath.

There wasn’t a single day when you couldn’t smell all spices combined when you walked past their apartment. It was … an interesting smell…😮‍💨 I don’t believe they could smell/taste the original flavours of their food

Nice neighbours though

Rolive,

Nice if you like Indian food.

kameecoding,

the original flavor of their food?

what is that? bland?

pascal,

Yeah, tell him.

I like that all my different vegetables taste like cinnamon and curry.

waow,

I see the seasoning police has arrived. It’s funny and also sad that you think normal food flavors are “bland.” Better drown everything in Lawry’s seasoned salt and Dr Buttblast.

Muhr,

Probably. The spices must have been worth more than the actual food though (:

Surp,
@Surp@lemmy.world avatar

The smell of all the spices is too much for me at times but I am super sensitive to smells. Gives me headaches.

TWeaK,

I used to work with a guy from Pakistan, my car would smell of curry for a week after a couple days of driving about with him. I could tell that he’d been back to his hotel room by the lingering smell in the hallway.

Muhr,

Haha :D

AA5B,

Yeah, some foods are like that - my ex-father-in-law had a similar thing with garlic. You could tell he had it for a couple of days

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