Dehydrated, Or use Firefox, a browser not made by the same guys who want to create a monopoly on web browsers.
ProtecyaTec, Don’t they receive millions from Google specifically?
Dehydrated, Yeah, but they do a lot of good stuff for the open internet, and they respect user freedom and privacy. Unlike Google, they allow you to use proper adblockers and don’t want to screw you over with this MV3 bullshit.
itscozydownhere, I tried to download Chromium but it’s a mess. No way a regular user will be able to download and install it. The will to do it will fade pretty quickly
averyfalken, I go to the software center, search chromuim, click install. Its that easy for Linux mint users
ILikeBoobies, It’s that easy on Windows as well, depending on the package manager you prefer the commands are
Winget (native)
winget install -e --id Hibbiki.Chromium
Chocolatey (third party)
choco install chromium-stable
renzev, Winget is awesome! It’s nice to see Microsoft finally focusing on adding basic quality-of-life features to their OS. First there was Windows Terminal, then proper bash support with WSL, and now package management with Winget! To be fair, it’s not 100% there yet. Tried installing ffmpeg with winget recently, and it took like three times longer than apt-get would have. But hey, better than downloading EXE’s from some random website. Really excited for what they’ll add next. Who knows, maybe Windows will finally be a viable desktop OS some day!
ILikeBoobies, I prefer my pacman being able to cd to a directory and install there rather than winget’s “-location direct path” but yeah Linux is faster and better for tech illiterate people like myself
renzev, Linux is faster and better for tech illiterate people like myself
For real tho, I could never come up with a good reason why I choose Linux over windows. But recently I tried Windows 11, and that finally made me understand. What are sticky keys? Why are you telling me the exchange rate of EUR to USD right now? Why do I need to put
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in front of my username when signing in? Why can’t you just tell me that you want TPM and UEFI boot enabled instead of cryptically saying that my hardware is incompatible even though it is? There’s just too much crap going on for a dumb fuck like me to understand. I would like one boring linux desktop experience that hasn’t changed since 2003 please.
Dehydrated, Firefox is better anyways
itscozydownhere, I’m happy with Safari but yeah Firefox is my other choice
FlyingSquid, Firefox doesn’t fucking work with my daughter’s online school. This is a national school that multiple states are adopting as a state online school (meaning it is a public school and we don’t have to pay tuition) and we have to use Chrome because I can’t get it to work in Firefox and I hate Edge. Even worse, a bunch of materials from the school either don’t mention which browser to use or specifically say you can use either Firefox or Chrome. I spent like half an hour trying to figure out why it wasn’t working. I did updates, resets, anything I could think of, until my wife texted me and said maybe it has to be in Chrome. And yep, that worked.
Of course, the school is run by Pearson, and they’re evil, so they probably have a deal with Google anyway.
Dehydrated, Damn, that sucks. I have always been keeping my school/university stuff in a separate browser, so maybe your daughter can use something like Ungoogled Chromium for school and Firefox for everything else.
FlyingSquid, I’ll look into it eventually, but we had to do this at the last minute because we had to get school started and she gets annoyed when I try to do anything on the notebook while she’s around.
Carlo, Ugh, Pearson’s the worst. Have you tried a user agent switcher? I seem to recall that working when I last had to deal with their crap.
FlyingSquid, I don’t know anything about that. Can you point me to a guide?
Carlo, You can get browser extensions that change your user agent string, which websites use to fingerprint you. So you’re just spoofing a different browser/OS. I use this one.
FlyingSquid, Thanks so much! I will check it out.
pipes, Flatpak (and flathub.org) has been a lifesaver for this, I use Ungoogled Chromium. Of course only for the few broken shitty websites that I’m forced to use
people_are_cute, Except that the spyware is so intertwined into Google’s products that many websites straight-up break without them. Google Drive won’t even let you download stuff with third-party cookies disabled.
renzev, (edited ) Just install a de-googled Chromium fork (ungoogled-chromium or Brave), and create a separate browser profile for Google Drive? Then it doesn’t matter if you have third party cookies enabled or not, your browsing data is completely isolated for your main profile. That’s what I do for almost every proprietary web-app I use (Discord, youtube, shopping services, whatsapp web, f*cebook, etc.). The only issue is that the profile picker gets rather crowded, but to overcome that I wrote a rofi script that lets me launch chromium profiles directly
erranto, I don’t blame the users here, remember from 2008 to 2012 where chrome ads where plastered on every website. Google knew what it was doing spreading its Trojan horse. I wouldn’t have known about the existence of chromium if I wasn’t lurking of privacy forums, blame google this time.
Demdaru, Back then chrome was useful tho. Faster than any competition.
Now, while it’s still fast, it’s so. Fekkin. Hungry.
ILikeBoobies, It wasn’t, people were using out dated explorer versions and up to date Chrome was faster
Luckily Microsoft learned from Google that you can’t leave updates up to the user
MystikIncarnate, I want my browser to be hungry. I’d rather have it using the memory for sites than have the sites reload when I switch tabs. I want it to be fast on all things.
This is not exclusive to Chrome. No matter what I use, I want it to be running from RAM and not have to swap or reload anything. Even things on my phone. I absolutely hate when I’m in the middle of multitasking on my phone and I go back to some information and the app has been unloaded and needs to load from scratch again (sometimes requiring a login to view the information I had previously retrieved).
That being said, I load everything I own up with about as much RAM as I can, and I buy devices with more RAM than I think I’ll need. Generally when considering an upgrade to my current cellphone, I’m looking at the RAM of the new phone and considering if the increased amount justifies the work and cost involved with changing phones (if there’s an increase at all). Since RAM will be the most significant factor in whether or not something can keep up with me.
My main PC has 64G, my laptop has 32G, and I believe right now, my current phone has 8G. It may be time to upgrade my phone…
Demdaru, I…wow…whew…my PC has 12gb…you’re scary my man…
A-anyway, I believe browsers shouldn’t be that hungry…
MystikIncarnate, (edited ) Don’t be scared. I’m rarely over 32GB of use. I mainly have it for when I need to do some virtualization/lab work.
Even when I do labs though, I usually debate whether to run them local or put them on my home server with 256GB of RAM.
Edit to add: since I have the memory, I’d rather that chrome uses it for useful stuff. No point in having the memory if it’s just going to sit vacant most of the time. I already bought the RAM, so I might as well use it.
Mesophar, Not 96gb or 128gb on your pc?
MystikIncarnate, I’ve been thinking about upgrading. I have room to increase the memory on my main system, and my laptop. I can easily double both…
I believe my main system will support upwards of 1.5TB of RAM in specific configurations. I likely would not exceed 256GB. Beyond that and even the best CPUs for my system probably wouldn’t be able to support enough processes to really take advantage of it. Even now I’m more concerned about CPU speed in my main rig than I am about RAM. I’ll probably pick up something with faster cores soon.
possiblylinux127, (edited ) Well they marketed it heavily and this is the result.
Also no one is a loser for using a piece of software.
diffcalculus, Unless it’s Chrome or Windows. According to some folks, you might as well end it all now.
Aceticon, Love the legend at the bottom!
Ethanol, the hecking pepper brush from GIMP at the end got me laughing!
renzev, It’s like a little trophy that we get the privilege of using as a reward for mastering GIMP’s admittedly beginner-hostile interface
fouloleron, Why is Elmo standing in for Cookie Monster?
renzev, (edited ) Huh? Wasn’t this always how this template looked like? I found it by ducking (is that what we call it?) “elmo cocaine meme template”, meanwhile “coockie monster cocaine meme template” returns nothing relevant…
EDIT: Are you making a joke about cookies that I am too dumb to understand?
Emerald, I think it’s because the chrome and chromium icons are circles, like cookies. You also put a “bite mark” in the chrome icon, as if bit off like a cookie.
fouloleron, I’ve never seen the meme before, my bad. I thought it was supposed to be cookie monster munching, not Elmo snorting!
renzev, Oh haha no worries. I myself have never watched a ful episode of whatever show these characters are from (Sesame street? was that what it was called?) so I thought you were referencing some lore I didn’t know haha
woodgen, Good luck finding a Chromium build for non Linux based systems. Not that I would be affected by that.
hubobes, …github.io/ungoogled-chromium-binaries/
Is that not it?
renzev, Are you currently using ungoogled chromium? How is it? Last time I took a look at it, it seemed sort of abandoned. Is it being maintained again?
XCraftMC, last commit was 5 days ago, so I’d say it’s still up and running. I use it as an alternative for sites that don’t work great with firefox
renzev, (edited ) Good to know, thanks! I currently use the flatpak version of my preferred browser for extra security (the sandbox could in theory limit the damage done by zerodays, also in theory limits fingerprinting because things like custom fonts are not available inside the sandbox), but unfortunately that breaks previewing/debugging local html files that reference other local files (e.g. images), so I was looking for a nice and simple browser to install natively just for that purpose.
joyjoy, The only thing stopping ungoogled chromium from really kicking off is an open source webstore alternative. Think Eclipse’s Open-VSX for community vscode builds.
DreadPirateShawn, I agree with the sentiment, but acktshually… blog.chromium.org/…/limiting-private-api-availabi…
jameskirk, That’s the not-spyware part of it.
redditReallySucks, use cromite or firefox
Octopus1348, Cromite is on Android, Ungoogled Chromium is on desktop.
redditReallySucks, Pretty sure cromite has windows builds now. Personally think firefox is better than any chromium alternative on desktop
Rentlar, Nice job on the half chrome logo on the second panel
renzev, Thank you! You noticed! I like to put that extra little bit of effort into my memes to make them stand out
macaroni1556, Green Is My Pepper 👌
BigBananaDealer, when i was in high school chrome had lots of school restrictions but chromium didnt. life saver for me, guy who did nothing in high school
renzev, Schools IT departments all over the world are doing society a massive favor by indirectly teaching children how to bypass censorship. 80% of what I know about IP and NAT came from finding different ways to bypass my school’s firewall haha
BigBananaDealer, one of my ways of bypassing the schools block on reddit was so stupidly easy
ssl error comes up trying to go to reddit. delete ssl from the link bar (cant remember its name) and boom reddit works
ParetoOptimalDev, Replace the icon?
ilinamorato, Firefox logo looks better anyway.
Dehydrated, And the browser is better than this Chromium bullshit
Empricorn, Used to, anyway.
oce, RIP little paw
ilinamorato, Still does, though I agree I liked the old one better.
corsicanguppy, Downvote for “literally”. Better adverbs please?
Dehydrated, Wtf is wrong with you
ilinamorato, The word is actually correct in this case, though. Chromium is, in every way that matters, literally (as in exactly, completely, utterly, fully, in actuality, totally) the same as Chrome.
name_NULL111653, (edited ) With the exception, as mentioned above, of one key detail: the removal of Google spyware and adware.
ilinamorato, Yes, that’s what the meme says. …I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here.
renzev, Is “literally” an adverb? I always though that adverbs were like adjectives but used for verbs (actions). Like “quickly” or “slowly”. Where is the action in a sentence like “It’s literally the same browser”? Is it an adverb for the “is” (to be) auxiliary verb? srry english not my first language
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