buzz86us, Sliders… Had two great seasons then they started chasing trends and it jumped off a cliff.
AgentGrimstone, Almost every Netflix movie. Disappointed almost every time.
SVcross, God, the first season of Revenge was so good. Quite a nosedive after season 2.
krush_groove, Ironic grammatical error
MargotRobbie, But I’ve heard the follow-up to Suicide Squad, “Birds of Prey (and some clown woman)” had great writing, so… does that even out?
EndlessApollo, (edited ) I haven’t seen Birds of Prey, but “The Suicide Squad” (not to be confused with “Suicide Squad”, which I also didn’t watch) was very good.
Edit I may be stupid,
MargotRobbie, Indeed, that movie is also pretty good.
Kase, And you would know, Margot Robbie! Good work!
MargotRobbie, Thank you!
Also, that’s esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie to you!
Crashumbc, Witcher :(
And I’m not talking about the casting or other stuff. Just the general writing and conversion from books to screen sucked ass
The_Picard_Maneuver, It was like a teenager wrote the dialogue.
saintshenanigans, From what I’ve heard it would have been multitudes worse if Cavill wasn’t so passionate about the source, too.
SpaceCowboy, Yeah I never read the books or played the games. So when I watched it I thought it was kinda janky because they were trying a little to hard trying to stay true to the books.
Then I later found out it wasn’t true to the books. Sure sometimes you need to change things to make a story work better for a new medium. But why is it so jank then?
If they made changes but it worked really well as a TV show because of those changes I can understand. And if the show is janky because they tried to stay too close to the books, I can understand. But they made a janky show that’s not true to the books. I don’t understand!
Maggoty, Some of the jank is because of the first book for sure. Doing three different converging timelines isn’t easy.
Blackmist, I’ve heard even that books aren’t that good, basically being medieval James Bond, but somehow even more misogynistic.
yamanii, Darling in the franxx, I was really interested in the world building and was on the minority of people that liked the episodes that had no mecha fights and they were just exploring the current city and how weird it was.
But trigger couldn’t contain themselves and had to do their asspulls and sudden massive power escalation that worked on Gurren Lagann because it wasn’t a grounded take on post-apocalyptic future with a few mechas that defend humanity!
phoenixz, That leaves for an interesting question: why is most writing these days so god awful? There are great writers out there. Hollywood isn’t stupid (is it?) and wants money. Why do they put shit writers on so many projects that then flop like the shit that it is?
yamanii, Most of everything is shit, you just remember the few good ones, you don’t remember the no name awful series that were airing together with Lost.
masterbaexunn, And even then Lost was also written with shit crayons. Especially the later stuff
Crashumbc, With streaming, it’s become about volume not quality. Before there were only so many movie screens and straight to video made next to nothing.
Now straight to streaming can make a LOT of money. Plus streaming services are trying to pump their selection and in-house productions cost nothing once produced. So even average or just good enough content can be profitable.
saintshenanigans, Executives chasing profits with data they don’t understand, or the show just sticks around too long.
douglasg14b, Because it’s targeting the lowest common denominator.
It’s generalizing the writing so that it generally appeals to generally everyone to increase engagement. This means that the show loses its specific attractions and it just becomes another generic TV show based in a different world.
SpaceCowboy, Hollywood is stupid and they didn’t want to pay writers after the first draft is written. It may not be so much the writer is shit (they came up with some good ideas after all) it’s that they don’t have time to make additional drafts to fix plotholes, improve the dialog, etc.
Writing isn’t just banging out something on a typewriter and it’s pure genius the moment is written. It’s a process that usually involves multiple drafts.
You gotta admit a lot of things feel like a first draft, and it’s probably because it is. Hopefully these issues were sorted out with the writer’s strike.
jenny_ball, (edited ) it’s not a simple answer but due to technology and environment, it’s just the way things are. basically less care is taken to get each minute of output simply because it’s possible. so many things. you don’t have to log heavy reels around, you don’t have to use a typewriter. each step is so much easier. before, there was a lot more care taken per step.
RememberTheApollo_, TV show with really interesting premise that is well written, well acted, with great sets:
Streaming service cancels it after the first season and doesn’t renew it.
Fleamo, RIP ‘Night Sky’ with JK Simmons. What could have been.
RememberTheApollo_, I was enjoying the heck out of The Peripheral. RIP.
ThePowerOfGeek, I was just thinking about that show last night and wondering if/when season 2 was coming out, as it had good reviews, great cast, a good plot, and the dialogue was pretty good too.
Went to the Wikipedia page and found out Amazon cancelled it two months after it’s debut. Two months! They didn’t even give it a chance.
Fleamo, I watched with my SO and googled it right after we finished it to see when Season 2 was coming, thinking it would be a joke “haha only 2 years to wait for the next season” and it had already been cancelled. Rough.
AgentGrimstone, Well that really sucks. I don’t even have a guess to what’s going on with that ending.
Zahille7, RIP Carnival Row. I thought it was a pretty damn good show, with excellent actors and good character building.
It hasn’t been “officially” cancelled, but it may as well be at this point.
corsicanguppy, know to man
Maybe proof-read your writing. Maybe once.
Resol, Apparently a internet web series named Battle for Dream Island suffered from this right around the second half of its fourth season. Let’s just say that this is when it has hit its lowest point ever.
Midnight1938, Havent heard that name in a while
Resol, Good for you, the newer episodes are pretty average.
Midnight1938, New episodes dont exist. They are in the imagination of needy
Resol, By the time I’m writing this reply, you probably already got slapped.
rimjob_rainer, Somehow Palpatine returned
Fleamo, You know I’ve seen every other mainline Star Wars and several of the one-offs and TV shows but I never got around to this one and I haven’t really felt like I missed out.
dasgoat, Same. I read about it in memes mostly and at some point I was like ‘alright that’s enough of that’.
Zahille7, You’re right.
SpaceCowboy, This thing again. Palpatine is in a room full of cloning tanks talking about having unnatural powers. Next scene characters mention cloning and dark powers. It’s just Poe doesn’t know how it happened (he’s not omniscient) and doesn’t much care. Fascism returned and he’s going to fight against it, that’s all he needs to know.
It’s explained but the hot take internet reactions missed it. And then memes were created to brag about being to stupid to understand something that happened in a Star Wars movie that a child could understand.
Somehow you don’t understand what things mean in a Star Wars movie. Congratulations!
rimjob_rainer, (edited ) Somehow all efforts from episode 4-6 were in vain and Anakin wasn’t the chosen one again because throwing Palpatine into the death star core didn’t have any impact on anything. Somehow they made everything Luke, Leia und Han achived pointless. Somehow cloning was easily achievable with some dark powers and somehow Palpatine cloned himself and chilled for a few dozen years. Somehow Palpatine was a father and somehow Rei was his granddaughter.
SpaceCowboy, Yes just like my Grandfather fought in WWII in vain because fascism has returned to our world.
Except the fact that evil can return doesn’t actually mean opposing evil is in vain.
Also, you may be slightly not getting the point of Star Wars if you think that we’re supposed to believe Anakin is the chosen one and everyone is supposed to respect his greatness. Yes this is what Anakin believed of himself, but how did that go for him?
Luke was meant to kill his evil father (or rule at his side), it was his destiny. Luke refused that destiny, how did that work out for him? Pretty good until the real evil Empire (the Disney Corporation) came along.
Star Wars isn’t really about making prophecies come true. It’s about rejecting them and finding a better way.
You’re a Star Wars fan, you’re meant to reject the fascist ideals of past greatness, not conform to them! Have a balanced take on Star Wars, not leave it in darkness!
I know from your point of view JJ Abrams is evil, But only a Sith deals in absolutes.
Nalivai, Counterpoint: several flashy videos on the Internet told me that space samurai wisard films are bad now because there is a mean woman there and no kinky costumes.
Strawberry, They have to have bad writing because otherwise it will be canceled 2 seasons in to a 3 season story arc
TheBat, Breaking Bad’s second season. Fuck that bullshit about airplane crash. Especially the black and white teases throughout the episode.
MashedTech, What are your opinions on The Magicians?
Crashumbc, Never watched enough to get a feel. I could not stand the whiney main character kid. He was like nails on a chalk board annoying…
cheesebag, Haha, have you read the books? It is a million times worse / more pretentious. The show was camp, which was at least kinda fun. Definitely an improvement anyway
the_artic_one, Cheesey as hell but still loveable.
herrvogel, The show where they have to sex each other in super sexy horny sex to cast some spell. Yeah sex magic wooo!! And what does the spell do? It just creates a column of light that some guy can use as a beacon to navigate.
My eyes rolled so hard I saw the back of my own skull.
TAG, I did not like the constant tonal shifts between silly magic frat boys and depressing magical apocalypse.
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