Angry_Maple, (edited )
@Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works avatar

It didn’t have a removable battery, but I used to use an older Asus Zenfone 3 ZE552KL that really kicked arse.

It had cards slots, a headphone jack, a built in radio that used wired headphones for signal, and the damned thing was as reasonably waterproof as I could imagine a smartphone to be. It’s camera was pretty great for the price, too.

Well, one day it fell very hard on a sharp rock, and the screen shattered. The crack made a hole a few milimeteres deep, and it was about a centimetre wide. It might not sound like much, but the crack in the screen was very much there. My happy arse managed to then have it fall out of my pocket and right into the flush of a high-powered toilet.

I left it to dry for one day, and it worked almost like new again. It still powers up today, but the since security updates stopped years ago, i don’t use it anymore. IIRC, it wasn’t too expensive, but I forget if there was a sale going on at the time.

I hope I can find another phone like that around that general price point one day. I can dream haha.

itsonlygeorge,

What the fuck is a high powered toilet? I want one of those!

A_Random_Idiot,

i think he means those like commercial/hospital/doctor office toilets that, when they autoflush and you are still on the seat, feel like you are going to have your insides sucked out by the full concentrated force of a galactic core black hole.

Tarkcanis,

Water resistance.

31337,

I used to have a water resistant Samsung Galaxy with a removable battery. The just put a seal on the battery cover.

Mango,

Bull. If you can get current in through the waterproof Type-C port, you can have a battery with a waterproof housing send current through some terminals.

MisterHex,

Usb c ports can detect a short and shut off to avoid damage. Batteries can’t do this and that’s why they are sealed into the phone.

Buddahriffic,

Ok, then add that circuitry to the battery package.

w2tpmf,

Ok. Then the phone is bigger and more expensive once you add that.

Veneroso,

I use the Samsung Galaxy S22 ultra. It’s already huge. Make it huger! More bigger! More money! CAPITALISM INTENSIFIES!

Cicraft,

That’s what they want you to believe

Signtist,

I just don’t get this. I’ve had to get new phones twice now because the battery life got bad enough that my phone wouldn’t last even a single day on a charge, but I’ve never even gotten close to dropping my phone in water. Are people that clumsy that they loosely hold their phone when they’re in the bathroom or on a boat? It’s the same with dropping it in general - I’ve dropped a phone twice since getting my first smartphone in 2010, and both times it was luckily onto carpet. Yeah, survivability is nice, but it’s trumped by everyday usability.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

I still won’t buy a phone without a microSD slot.

GET OFF MY LAWN!

TheGrandNagus,

What phones even still do? Sonys? Low end Samsungs? Fairphone?

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Right now running a Samsung Galaxy A53.

DannyBoy,

Moto G Pure from 2021 doesn’t have much but it’s got an SD card slot and a headphone jack.

bobs_monkey,

My Xperia 1 V has one, but it shares the same space with the 2nd sim card slot, which I use.

Revan343,

My Motorola does

Maven,

Crazy how every time someone asks what brand even supports some previously-normal feature, the answer is always Motorola. Headphone jack, FM radio, SD card, stylus…

BB69,

Why

9Bsk3IVAnlAYf, (edited )

I like that all of my media is on a removable card I can pop in any device I want and it doesn’t interfere with system files and apps. Makes the initial setup of a new device much easier, not to mention backing it up to my hard drive (cp -r * /media/user/whatever_disk and I’m done).

Revan343,

What a dumb question

usualsuspect191,

Cheap, easily expandable expandable memory

GeneralEmergency,

Because the march of time terrifies them.

danc4498,

28 net downvotes so far for asking “why”. I think Lemmy is becoming more toxic than Reddit was.

cosmicrookie, (edited )
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

They used to have microSD…

MisterHex,

They still do. My 2021 model phone has dual SIM, with one of the slots being enabled for either a SIM card or a SD card.

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Many if not most new models don’t have them though

normalexit,

This drives me crazy. An iPhone 15 pro max with 256gb of storage is 1199 and the 512gb is 1399.

So $200 for an extra 256gb. Meanwhile a fast, name brand, 1tb micro SD card is about $100.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Phones that use those are still relatively easy to find tho.

madcaesar,

Who needs a micro SD when you can pay a subscription cloud service for the rest of your life??? - morons responding to me every time I lament the need for an SD card

Not to mention if your screen gets fucked you can remove the card and have all your photos / movies instantly

shork,

Why not both! I love SD but its also pretty handy I can access photos from my PC without needing any further action (I refer mostly to OneDrive right now) SD still rules tho.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Why do you think my old ass bought a fair phone

papertowels, (edited )

If you don’t mind me asking, what country are you in?

I know murena sells in the US, but I’ve always avoided it because it seems like buying parts is still going to be a PITA, and what’s the point of a repairable phone if you can’t get parts?

ignotum,

Same here

They say stuff like repairability, durability, not using child slavery, yada yada not important

the easily replaceable battery is what really caught my eye and brought me to the yard!

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t…

You know what, never mind. Don’t sell past sold lmao

Kidplayer_666,

I kinda hate the fact they took of the headphone jack. Conveniently, they started selling their own buds with that launch

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

I miss that too. The perfect phone doesn’t exist.

marcos,

It wasn’t all that useful.

Instead of the battery dying and you throwing your phone away, it just happened that the battery died, and you searched for a compatible one, that either didn’t exist or cost 70% of the price of a new phone, so you threw your phone away.

Now, if you want to talk about standard battery sizes, I’m listening.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

It was extremely useful when it was more common than non-replaceable batteries. Most of the time, you could find a better battery than the stock one at a cheaper price.

hikikoma,

As someone who frequently changed their phone batteries and bought spares you are talking out your whole ass about their lack of availability and price, you just made up some shit then justified your argument with your made up shit.

RedAggroBest,

Lemmy: “I want my removable batteries and headphones jacks!”

Manufacturers: “Are you willing to pay more because nobody else wants that and there’d be extra engineering costs to keep it to spec on things like water resistance?”

Lemmy: >:[ proceedes to buy it anyways and complain about it being so much bigger than other phones “I don’t have giant hands!”

DriftinGrifter,

Lemmy users want something -> some money whre decides that strawmans must be applied to fix their sht Perspektive of the world (news flash phones don’t habe to be so enourmus and Thema beging a tad bit thicker is structurally beneficial and not gonna annoy anyone except for people with unusable small pockets that can’tfitt keys)

franklin, (edited )
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah people act outside of their own self interest all the time, it’s why things get regulated in the first place and one of the reasons the invisible hand of the market is a myth.

Zipitydew,

What pisses me off is the Note 4 had these things, plus an IR blaster, and was large for the time but reasonably so. 10 fucking years ago.

Phones have only lost features and repairability since. While the prices have gone up.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

But stonks go up so win win /s

Steamymoomilk, (edited )

“There removable, see all you need is 7 specialized tools!”

“We cant have users replacing there own batterys what if they puntchure or swallow the battery?”

“Making the battery removable would make the phone more bulky and limits innovation”

-Companys BS reasons

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

Apple did it. The rest followed.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

More like, “what if it cuts our incessant growth in sales?!”

TheSpermWhale,
@TheSpermWhale@lemmy.world avatar

Coz batteries degrade over time, and this way you’re either forced to buy a new phone, or have to pay to have the battery replaced

bobs_monkey,

It’s also 10x easier to achieve IP67 water resistance with the battery sealed off. Having a removable battery would require more engineering contrary to shareholders’ wishes.

dejected_warp_core,

This also contributes to the bulk of the device. IIRC, at the time things shifted to sealed designs, Apple and others were competing to make phones as thin, wide, and tall as possible. But that’s not really an excuse; we can probably do better nowadays.

AI_toothbrush,

Smartphones will have removable batteries(at least i hope so)

tubaruco,

because of EU laws, they will, but will probably still be hard to replace

foggy,

The craziest part to me is that it wasn’t until they started forcing them to be stuck inside phones all the time that they started exploding. And yet the FTC still doesn’t give a shit

TheGrandNagus,

I mean it’s not that crazy. If they’re removable, you need to design the batteries themselves to be a bit more rugged and harder to puncture.

I.e. cladding the cells in a relatively thick metal casing rather than a thin pouch

gerowen,

Planned obsolescence

Cool_Name, (edited )

I use an HTC TCL vive. I can text, place phone calls, and barely take a picture, but god damn it I can replace the battery.

PanArab,

A lot of anti-user design choices were first introduced by the iPhone. As someone who has owned iPhones since the iPhone 3G, I blame myself.

rimjob_rainer,

EU to the rescue

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