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atrielienz, in this plug doesn't have the little holes
tallguy_97,

This is the first thing that came to mind. If you didn’t link it, I was lol. I love this channel.

blazeknave,

“especially people who notice they have holes in them” ahahahhaha I love him. He’s so good, I can never tell if he’s in on the joke or not.

boringbisexual,

I don’t even need to click the link to know who this is.

pipows, in this plug doesn't have the little holes
@pipows@lemmy.today avatar

Americans plugs are very strange

TheControlled,

And Japanese and Canada and Mexico. Don’t forget about our homies.

Anticorp,

European plugs are too big and bulky for our liking.

pipows,
@pipows@lemmy.today avatar
Anticorp, (edited )

That’s different than what my French friend brought over. Aren’t they usually quite bulkier? The ends on her chargers were large round bulky things, with the 3 narrow prongs sticking off. What she had also matched the European adapters I see sold at the electronics store here.

pipows,
@pipows@lemmy.today avatar

This one is Brazilian

lud, (edited )

The majority of Europe uses two types of outlets and plugs. One bigger that’s usually grounded and bulkier and one smaller. The smaller one is always ungrounded and is compatible with either outlet.

The french bulkier outlets are also slightly different that what is common elsewhere. Their ground connection is a prong in the outlet while the rest of Europe has two clip things in the outlets. Most modern plugs accept both outlets though.

Bulkier plug image

Bulkier outlet image

Bulkier french outlet

Smaller (euro)plug image

Smaller outlet (plus bonus bulkier one)

Sometimes the smaller outlet isn’t actually smaller..

The bulkier European plugs and outlets are very safe. It’s impossible to short the pins during insertion and they never go out from the outlet without you intending for it to do so.

Anticorp,

Ah yup! The French one is exactly what I was thinking of. I didn’t realize that there are different outlets in different EU countries. That’s gotta be annoying when traveling.

It’s impossible to short the US ones too. Plugs only go in one way if they’re polarized, or if they’re grounded. Some devices aren’t polarized and they can be plugged in right side up, or upside down.

lud,

Ah yup! The French one is exactly what I was thinking of. I didn’t realize that there are different outlets in different EU countries. That’s gotta be annoying when traveling.

I honestly don’t travel too much but I don’t imagine it would be a big deal.

Pretty much all phone chargers use the smaller version plug that fits in almost all outlets in Europe.

And the modern bulkier plugs usually have both a hole in the buttom to fit french outlets and the clip things to fit other European outlets.

AA5B,

That’s horrible: only one is grounded? A grounded plug can only use half your outlets? Surely to multi-use outpost can also support grounded plugs?

pipows,
@pipows@lemmy.today avatar

It’s because the installation is old, new ones are always grounded

Iron_Lynx, (edited )

Looks Swiss, but I see down the thread that Brazil uses a similar type.

Either way, the Swiss plug feels to me like what if you took the modest CEE 7/16 Europlug and grafted a ground pin onto that.

systemguy_64, (edited )

South Africa also adopted the type N socket

YoorWeb, in this plug doesn't have the little holes
metallic_substance,

Denmark’s looks happy to supply power

this_1_is_mine, (edited )

USA plug should be flipped. The ground should be on top.

Zorg,
@Zorg@lemmings.world avatar

Yes, except all bulky plugs are designed for plugging into an outlet with the ground at the bottom.

prayer,

Not really. Most plugs I see have ground at the bottom and there’s no official standard for orientation.

blazeknave,

No. Ground is on the bottom. Almost always. Unless it’s sideways.

phoenixz,

I love that Danish one, always happy to see me!

21Cabbage, in My band aid came with a natural skin tone of albinism

I take it that’s a packaging fluke? Because I’ve yet to see anyone that pale and handing an albino person a pearl white bandage because “it matches their skin tone” seems kind of insulting.

sir_pronoun,

I feel it’s more likely OP was joking, but then who knows? Celebrities? What do they know? Do they know things? Let’s find out!

whaleross, (edited )
@whaleross@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, it’s a joke. The white ones are missing the top layer it seems.

Patches, (edited ) in We had a virtual card number leaked and used. Somehow we received what was ordered.

Credit Card Numbers by themselves are technically worthless because you have no guarantee they aren’t just randomly generated.

Verified Credit Cards are worth significantly more on the black market. There is no reason to set off fraud detection by using a fake address. Those resellers do not want the goods - they want good credit card numbers.

Significantly less risk in reselling numbers compared to goods and no logistics, or fencing, to speak of.

Coldgoron,

There is a lot sides to this scam business.

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

But sending the goods to the actual cardholder informs them of the fraudulent use, pretty much ensuring they deactivate the card number. Talk about burning the bridge you’re standing on…

Patches,

There are a significant number of people who won’t put it together, and call the bank.

The person who’s name is on the card - might not even have access to cancel the card. My mother’s identity was stolen like this - they opened many many credit cards, and she got a lot of absolute garbage in the mail for months. There was no one for her to call. She didn’t open them.

She locked her identify but it means about fuck all cause people kept opening cards anyways.

RatsOffToYa, in this plug doesn't have the little holes

Fun watch related to your pic youtu.be/udNXMAflbU8

PCChipsM922U,
@PCChipsM922U@sh.itjust.works avatar

In the cheap one, we have two perfectly flat brass pieces pressing against each other.

I’ll bet you any ammount you want, that’s not brass. It’s iron with brass coating.

agamemnonymous,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

Is a brass coating not, technically, a flat brass piece pressed against another?

Rai,

LOGIC’D

Ghostalmedia,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Fuck yeah, technology connections.

NickwithaC,
@NickwithaC@lemmy.world avatar

I knew it would be before I clicked. Alec is great!

Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug,

I knew exactly what video you linked before I clicked it.

0x4E4F, (edited )
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

There is no finite life span on any connector.

You obviously haven’t used a Cannon or a Neutrik made XLR connector. I have one from the 1970s, it still works like a chram.

Also, take a look at some of the Type F power plugs. If that’s not robust, IDK what is.

TurnItOff_OnAgain,

I am very familiar with Alec. Love that channel.

lseif,

summary: the holes are almost never (purposely) used to secure the plug in the socket. it is often just for manufacturing reasons (but not always, as in this case). it is included in the specifications as an optional feature, so that the holes are not made too big, or in the wrong place.

schmidtster, (edited )

I’m curious why he doesn’t talk about all the patents that specify locking as a feature. Even modern patents reference the features of older ones in their designs if they use them.

He used all modern plugs you would find on houses in 2000+, of course none of them lock the old way. Go grab some from the 20s and 30s.

RIP_Cheems, in this plug doesn't have the little holes
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

Throw it out. It’s not safe to use.

hakobo,

The holes don’t actually do anything. youtu.be/udNXMAflbU8

joeyv120, in this plug doesn't have the little holes

The holes are only for manufacturability.

schmidtster, (edited )

Older receptacles had a design that would hug the holes to hold the plug in place. It’s a holdover for people with older houses.

crimroy,

“I like a snug plug” - Dusty Slay

NarrativeBear,

I think this fact is actually a myth, the holes are for manufacturing as stated previously.

schmidtster,

If it’s for manufacturing why are some made without them?

Theres patents out there, I don’t know why technology connection did his own experiments on modern plugs instead of a modicum of research about receptacles.

NarrativeBear,

Not exactly sure, I think it’s just one of those things were we “people” have gotten so used to the design and how it’s supposed to look, that even if it’s not needed we keep doing it.

Since multiple companies manufacturer plugs and connections, some manufacturers may not need the holes as a part of the assembly process. Other may opt not to add them as they do not have a purpose (other then how we perceive a north america plug is supposed to look like).

Funny story, almost all standard north america three prong plug are installed upside down. The third “center prong” or “ground” is actually on the top per the original design.

Most new builds and electricians are opting to install this way now. The orientation has no impact on performance.

Zoot,

Except that if a plug falls out, you want it to stay grounded… meaning the ground should absolutely be on the bottom because gravity.

FutileRecipe,

the ground should absolutely be on the bottom because gravity.

Not necessarily. You typically want the ground longer so it’s the first in and last out. Type G has the ground on top. I vaguely remember hearing that’s because if it comes slightly out and something sharp or metal falls on the plug, you want it to hit the ground and not the live part…but I don’t know how reliable that story is.

root_beer,

This is the reason, yeah, at least according to what I’d read on Wikipedia (I’d just learned this “funny story” myself a few minutes before reading the comment above). I wanted to see if there was anything that could confirm it, but I’m not paying $70 to purchase the standard (NECA 130-2010) where it may be written.

schmidtster, (edited )

Some electricians started doing it since it became a viral Internet trend to intentionally drop quarters onto the prongs of a slightly pulled out plug.

In history there’s only been a few cases of a fires being started because of an accidental thing falling on the plugs. The breaker trips before a fire would start in almost all cases. Provided the breaker isn’t faulty or something. Which you should be testing regularly as a home owner.

schmidtster,

There’s patents with these features specified for locking and even modern patents reference these old patents.

Technology connections got it wrong, it happens.

natebluehooves,

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  • schmidtster,

    I’ve watched that video, what research and sources? He doesn’t talk about any specs or provide them, doesn’t talk about patents or provide them. Can you link to his sources if you know where they are?

    It’s strange how he’s being treated as the end source, while not having any sources at all.

    Look up NEMA specs and patents, it’s not my job to educate people who are taking someone’s word without sources or anything. His experiments are flawed his receptacles are all from the last 2 decades.

    “Go try it yourself and you’ll see”… sure I’ll use a plug from the era that these are from, that’s who these are for, not for people with modern plugs who would be ones watching a video and trying this.

    schmidtster, (edited )

    Here a plug that utilizes the holes to make a secure connection that can only be removed by pulling on the collar to remove the pins that go through the holes.

    Yeah it’s a thing and if you have the holes in the plug, they must meet NEMA spec since it actually is used for locking in lots of cases. Despite technology connections missing the patent and specs from their videos.

    What sources did tech connections have other than their wrong and biased experiment on modern receptacles that wouldn’t have this feature?

    Nollij,

    Funny thing about that, TC recently released a video on this as well.

    youtu.be/vNj75gJVxcE?feature=shared

    TL;DW: Ground on top probably causes more problems than it would solve.

    doc,

    Not exactly a myth, but likely never used for retention purposes as was originally intended. See more here: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/11495/nema-5-15p-blade-holes

    schmidtster,

    Older receptacles and even modern receptacles and cords do still make use of their holes.

    It’s why if the holes are included there is specs they must follow.

    This plug makes use of the holes for a solid mechanical connection that will only be removed when you pull on the collar to remove the pin that goes through the holes.

    HerbalGamer,
    @HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Like the european ones still have?

    user1234, in this plug doesn't have the little holes

    I always thought the holes were there for OSHA lockout/tagout locks.

    Michal,

    They are a byproduct of the manufacturing process. There’s a Technology Connections video about it that I’m too lazy to lookup on my phone.

    janus2,
    @janus2@lemmy.zip avatar

    I was bored enough to look up the link
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=udNXMAflbU8

    LemmyKnowsBest,

    You’re a hero. I even remember watching this video a few weeks ago but I still can’t remember what he taught us the holes are for.

    schmidtster, (edited )

    Technology connections got it wrong. The oldest receptacle he used was from the 2000s. He also didn’t do any research. Modern manufactures keep doing it for the all the old receptacles out there. It’s why the hole size IS specified by NEMA if you are going to include them.

    Theres plenty of patents that specify the locking function, and even some modern patents refer to those old locking features with their features.

    czardestructo, in this plug doesn't have the little holes
    @czardestructo@lemmy.world avatar

    This is a plug for China. It will work fine in US outlets but it’s intended for that Chinese market hence the lack of holes.

    Patches,

    While potentially true - that is not why the holes are missing.

    They aren’t part of any spec.

    schmidtster,

    It’s a holdover from older designs, modern receptacles hold the plug differently, older ones were designed to hug the holes to hold the plug in places.

    DharmaCurious,
    @DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

    Does China use a compatible electrical system to us?

    Darkassassin07, (edited )
    @Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

    No. 220v/50hz in china, 120v/60hz in North America.

    The plugs are similar though, with china using the non-polarized and un-grounded version of the plug used in North America. (two flat blades, same width as Americas live pin) If you didn’t know better, you could plug in the wrong things in either country.

    orangeNgreen, in My local coffee shop has a no birds sign on the door. It is placed at eye height for walking birds.
    @orangeNgreen@lemmy.world avatar

    Does… does it work?

    Dimok,

    Came here to ask the same question.

    Kolanaki,
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    Birds are kinda smart.

    Ghostalmedia,
    @Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

    Only for walking birds.

    Jerb322,
    @Jerb322@lemmy.world avatar

    Probably not well, there’s no circle around it 😁

    Nerrad, in My local coffee shop has a no birds sign on the door. It is placed at eye height for walking birds.
    @Nerrad@lemmy.world avatar

    Birds aren’t real.

    qyron,

    I would like to agree with you but… I’ve been shit on, stared at (which includes judging looks), screamed at, had food and small items stolen (shiny things, like nails, screws and washers), my house casually invaded as the door was open, my work appraised (yard work) and taunted as nests were being built.

    Nah…

    They are very real.

    Nighed,
    @Nighed@sffa.community avatar

    The joke is that they are all government surveillance drones 😂

    qyron,

    Surveilled and shat on… Talk about adding insult to injury.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s America, buddy. Love it or leave it!

    qyron,

    You guys have it the worst, lately.

    SonicBlue03, (edited ) in My local coffee shop has a no birds sign on the door. It is placed at eye height for walking birds.

    This will go over a lot of birds heads.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Only if they duck.

    twack,

    Many might find the concept to be beneath them as well.

    UnrepententProcrastinator, in My local coffee shop has a no birds sign on the door. It is placed at eye height for walking birds.
    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar
    Norgur, in My local coffee shop has a no birds sign on the door. It is placed at eye height for walking birds.

    That's ornitocist! Bigot swine!

    Deceptichum, (edited )
    @Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

    Swine‽ You porcinaphobe coward.

    Norgur,

    coward?! You boviniphobe maggot!

    Jerkface,

    Maggot!? You scoleciphobe ass!

    Norgur,

    Ass?! You equidiphobe rat!

    LillyPip, (edited )

    Rat?! You rodentiphobe shrew!

    Norgur,

    Shrew?! You moleophobe karp!

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