Don't be that guy.

When you’re talking to an open source dev, just remember that they are literally giving you their time for free, and they are people who don’t like to be treated poorly.

Edit: Just to be clear, I don’t mean any ill will toward the guy. He’s frustrated and he’s just taking it out in the wrong venue at the wrong people, but that doesn’t mean he’s a bad person.

Edit 2: The reinstalling he’s talking about is NPM. So just running npm install. It’s because he tried removing the node_modules directory, which is a reasonable thing to do, but it means you need to reinstall the modules with that command.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

YOU 👏 ARE 👏 NOT 👏 OWED 👏 CUSTOMER 👏 SERVICE 👏 FOR 👏 USING 👏 THIS 👏 SOFTWARE 👏

YOU 👏 ARE 👏 NOT 👏 OWED 👏 A 👏 WARRANTY 👏

Don’t like it? Pay for your software :)

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

Don’t like it? Pay for your software :)

Most people happily will. So the year of the Linux desktop will always be n+1

ReakDuck, (edited )

The nightmare just crawls out to our reality when paid software is less developed on and more buggy than free Open Source software.

CallumWells,

Did you know that “payed” is a naval term. See Grammarly on Payed for more information

ReakDuck, (edited )

Haha whoops. Thanks

CallumWells,

The funny thing is that since it’s an actual word the spell checker might not be of any use to see that it might not be the word you’re actually wanting to use. And with the amount of people using “payed” instead of “paid” the dictionaries will probably include “payed” as an alternative way to conjugate “to pay” in the currency sense.

ReakDuck,

Uh. The spell checker doesnt work on my phone either way. I got lazy to fix anything on my GrapheneOS

hperrin,

That’s because the people making it are doing it for a job rather than for the love of it. (Except me. Surely I don’t do that.)

mastefetri,

It depends on if the first guy is complaining about having to reinstall this specific software, or if the software borked his entire system to the point that he has to reinstall his entire OS. Because that happened to me once. But in the first scenario he is being a dick, and in the second one not so much.

appel,

I disagree, in neither scenario the open source dev owes him anything. You get to use and modify the software for free, but the flip side is you are entitled to nothing.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

You’re not entitled to a working computer once you execute a free program?

fishinthecalculator,

I guess you are not entitled free support once you execute a free program

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

I can’t say I’ve spoken directly to a dev in a situation like that, thankfully, but if that opinion were dominant, FOSS wouldn’t be a thing. Destroying your data or OS is kind of a no-no, whether you pay for the software or not. Obviously, you can’t sue the FOSS dev, but come on, it’d be amazingly shitty if they didn’t even try to help if there’s any evidence it’s their fault.

Star,

Do most open source projects damage your computer? It’s obvious they put effort into making usable programs.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Of course not!

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

The software is almost certainly provided as is, with risks assumed by the person installing it.

Still, I doubt any dev wants a catastrophic outcome and takes steps to avoid that or warn the end user if the code is more likely to bork something.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect the dev to do their best but it’s also not like you can sue them and win, most likely.

daed,

Honestly, no. It’s your job to vet the software you run. If it’s open source, you had every chance to make sure it wasn’t going to irreversibly break your system ahead of time.

Alternatively, you could pay money for a solution from a reputable company with support.

lukecooperatus,
@lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml avatar

Alternatively, you could pay money for a solution from a reputable company with support.

and run the possibly even greater risk that it’ll fuck something up, since you probably can’t even look at their source

daed,

??? You quoted my comment with ‘reputable’ in it. You put a level of trust in anything you use. Reputable companies are unlikely to fuck your shit up with bad software. It happens - not trying to say it doesn’t - but again, you have to trust somewhere.

onlinepersona,

If that’s what you get from a paid product, why would you assume it’s better for a free product?

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

You’re implying that to even install the simplest of programs, I’d need to read and understannd many thousands of lines of code, starting with the FOSS project itself and then spidering out to every dependency. This speaks nothing of the fact that it may be written in multiple languages, some of which I am not familiar with, and even if I am, code can be written in ways that’s almost impossible to understand. This might take a week for a 200 line project.

Reminds me of when my employer said they were going to stop using open source software until a team had vetted it completely. Lol, once they talked to engineers that idea died immediately.

DrRatso,

Who put the gun to your head and made you run the software though?

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

The response to this here is absolutely wild. I guess I should expect my machine to get wiped any moment

red, (edited )

Whenever you choose to run a program that has full access to parts of your PC that may cause issues, you are the person who chose to do so.

Just run apps in a sandbox if you don’t want to risk having to reinstall your OS in a worst case scenario.

The developer owes you nothing.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Legal obligations that I grasped at age 9 don’t really interest me to talk about. It’s pretty obvious I understand them. What I was trying to talk about was what reasonable people should do. But apparently that’s offensive to many ITT as most responses are condescending af

red,

We might be condescending due to braindead users like this:

You’re not entitled to a working computer once you execute a free program?

Despite grasping legal obligations at the age of 9, taking responsibility for your own actions seems to still be a struggle. Good luck.

Womble,

You’re right to an extent, but there is nuance. No end user goes through the Debian repositories and checking the source code for each package by hand. You would be well within your rights to be annoyed if a rm -rf / got added into a script in the repos somehow. A level of trust somewhere is unavoidable for things to work smoothly.

Of course the difference in level of responsibility between core repos and random code pulled of github is vast.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

The extent to which you’re attempting to sound intelligent would be saddening if you weren’t being so rude. I won’t be replying to you in the future.

daed,

I can see how you got there, but I’m actually not saying you need to understand any programming languages at all. If the code is out there, and the product is worthwhile, the community can and will vet it.

Like I responded to the other guy, you put a level of trust in anything you use. You can pay for a product and expect polish and support, or you can go the open source route, the DIY hobbyist route, and expect to have to do more yourself. You might have to do research on a product before you trust it. This isn’t a radical concept to me. If I was putting together an RC car, I would do research on the motor to make sure it was unlikely to fail catastrophically.

CallumWells,

That’s absolutely a ridiculous stance. Yes, you can personally go through everything, but there’s also searching around to find out what other people say about it, actually look through the issues people have raised. Some of it applies to proprietary software as well, find out what other people say about the software. You don’t need to do everything yourself, but you do have to take responsibility for trying to make sure it will work as you hope it will.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Whoosh

carlytm,

This. I swear, some people in the FOSS community seem to be convinced everyone who uses a computer is a developer.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Right? And it seems like no one is interested in understanding my point, most only seem interested in defending developers of FOSS. I understand there is no legal obligation from FOSS devs… That is irrelevant.

I love FOSS. It’s one of the best products of humanity. I am not attacking devs at all…

My point was only that while devs don’t owe anyone anything legally, if the rare edge case happens where their code is destructive by accident, it would be a dick move to ignore complaints about it. I guess because it didn’t spell it all out like this, I “deserved” all the downvotes (on since-deleted comments) and condescending remarks?

Yes I know that if I use Firefox I can’t sue them if somehow they wipe my OS. Yes I know that would probably never happen, it’s extremely unlikely to happen. But if it did, FF owes us at least a response. And I means owes in the sense that it’s the right thing to do, not “if you don’t do it I can sue you”.

Raxiel,

Malware is free too

appel,

Malware is not usually open source.

RovingFox, (edited )
@RovingFox@infosec.pub avatar

You are entitled to the truth. If the dev knows their software could have very damaging effects then that should be front and center on the software page.

appel,

Usually it is? But ultimately it’s still your own responsibility. You did not pay the dev, the dev does not ask you to pay them, ergo the dev owes you diddly squad.

RovingFox, (edited )
@RovingFox@infosec.pub avatar

Let’s be decent with each other, I don’t think my expectations are outrageous. I consider decent to make sure that the person that will use your software is aware of the dangers. And the best person to know those dangers is usually the dev.

hperrin,

In this case, in trying to resolve the issue, he deleted his node_modules directory. So he’s talking about having to reinstall everything by typing npm install and waiting for it to finish.

onlinepersona,

No. It’s provided without warranty nor guarantee that it’ll work or even leave your system intact. That’s the core of most opensource licenses. Dev owes nobody nothing.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

mastefetri,

I didn’t say anyone owed anyone anything. I was saying one level of frustration was understandable, one was not. Anyhow, my case happened twenty years ago when creative commons barely existed.

onlinepersona,

Then you’re right. The frustration would be understandable, the expression thereof towards the developer, not.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

laverabe,

what’s with the link in every comment? just curious

onlinepersona,

It’s a non-commercial copyleft licence for the comment in case the case against Microsoft’s CoPilot is won.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

laverabe,

I don’t quite understand, why would Microsoft sue you for a lemmy comment?

onlinepersona,

Just to be sure, is this a serious question or a troll?

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

laverabe,

serious question… not everyone on Lemmy is a computer expert, lol

onlinepersona, (edited )

🙂 my bad

No, not sue me for lemmy comments. AI is trained with lots of data. The world wide web is full of publicly accessible data like our comments. However, not all publicly accessible data may be used without a license. Examples thereof are news paper articles, videos, still pictures, etc. Normally, if you want to use those commercially, consent has to be given by the license holder and a in some cases a fee has to be paid.

Microsoft Copilot is an AI model to help people write code. However, it was trained mostly on opensource code (code made publicly available) which was very often licensed. And it is done so in such a manner that commercial use is allowed with the obligation to make that commercial code publicly available too. Microsoft does not make the code for Copilot publicly accessible and uses code licensed in many, many other ways - and it does so without asking for consent.

This is often a double standard as companies that hide their code fight very hard to keep it secret and/or pursue those in court who do not get a license to use it. However, they will happily use licensed consent to their benefit without consent nor potential payment.

With some clever tricks, AIs have been duped into revealing their training data (often licensed, sometimes very private e.g addresses, birthday, health information, etc.). Lawsuits have ensued (against the AI owners like Microsoft) and are currently active with a pending verdict. Until the verdicts come, I add the license link to my comments. Who knows, maybe it will have an impact, maybe not.

Hopefully I could explain the situation in an understandable manner for you.

Have a good day.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

laverabe,

I see - thanks for taking the time to explain the backstory, very interesting.

onlinepersona,

You’re welcome. Thank you for reading :)

chicken,

Being polite is better than not being polite, but the way I see it, all user complaints are valid and are better not taken personally if possible. Maybe you as the developer didn’t do anything wrong that contributed to their problem, or are not actually in a position to resolve whatever their problem is, but it’s worth keeping in mind the bigger picture: how well peoples computers work to benefit their lives.

If someone is getting upset that they have to spend time troubleshooting, maybe because they didn’t understand something or made a mistake, there’s definitely other people going through the exact same less-than-ideal experience and not saying anything about it. That’s information about the state of how well things are working and it’s better for it to be out there in some form than not.

hperrin,

Yeah, I didn’t take it personally. He’s just venting, but doing it toward the person trying to help you is unhelpful. That’s why I posted here, basically saying to remember that you’re talking to a person, not a punching bag.

DeltaTangoLima, (edited )
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

Nah - don’t make excuses for them. Here in Australia, we call entitled people like this cunts. With a hard ‘c’. Not the nice one, with a soft ‘c’.

CallumWells,

Sunts?

ogeist,

There is always a risk using libraries from others. If you install something without knowing what you are doing and without considering the risks, you should not be installing it.

corvus, (edited )
@corvus@lemmy.ml avatar

You are literally sending 99% of the new Linux users back to Windows haha. C’ mon its not that hard, look at what custom ROM developers do. They put a big disclaimer warning of the risks of installing the software. You won’t find a single user blaming the devs for a bricked phone, and there are lot of them. The one who has to consider the risks and warn about them is the dev, just because (s)he is the one who knows the software better and not all users are developers and they usually don’t know what are the risks.

ogeist,

You can install shit in Windows too, it is exactly the same case when grandma installs too many toolbars in Internet Explorer 6. No one is warning you there that you might be installing malware.

What I mean is that there are already curated repositories for each distro that can be accessed easily by the package manager. If you go outside of your package manager and repos, gloves are off, you better know what you are doing.

Regarding custom ROMs, since you brought it up and being a custom ROM enthusiast, there are still a lot of complaints, nastiness and pressure from the users similar to this. Installing a ROM has definitely a higher knowledge barrier and that makes you aware of the risks, also you will brick your phone before you are able to install a ROM… if you don’t know what you are doing.

Finally, the developer here in this very lemmy post mentions that the OP of that bug report was working with them in order to solve the issue. The one on the screenshot was just a random dude unnecessarily being rude. Free software is usually delivered as is with no warranties, specifically small projects and libraries.

Thanks for coming to my TED.talk

naevaTheRat,

Me approaching Foss developer with bug: Pardon me, if you could grace this lowly worm with but a moment of your attention; I with me a bug report, and I believe I have found the section of code responsible. This inadequate being lacks the technical expertise to fix it and would be eternally indebted if you would turn your monumental skills upon its trifling problems. It would please me immensely if my paltry efforts were of some assistance.

This user: SOFTWARE NO WORK FUCK YOU!

adj16,

😆 this is legitimately a work of art

ggppjj,

And yet, this is the issue that gets a response instead of a silent closed offtopic wontfix.

naevaTheRat,

Even if that was true effectiveness is never acceptable justification for cruelty

RealFknNito,
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

Never is a strong word when a collection of people all came together and agreed that Windows 10 should force updates.

naevaTheRat,

Oh destroy property or whatever just don’t be cruel to people :p

gravitas_deficiency, (edited )

You’ve clearly never worked with any psychopaths or narcissists. Often, pointed (though importantly, carefully offline and undocumented) cruelty is one of the only ways to effectively punch back and make people like that stop trying to fuck with you, because many people like that only really respond to threat dynamics. It’s not terribly common, and it’s not fun to do, but it definitely is warranted once in a blue moon.

NotJustForMe,

Or even worse:

Thanks. Send a complete log of every software on your system, two videos of the bugs in action, and a detailed analysis of what you’ve had for breakfast.

hperrin,

It is, until it isn’t. I’ve seen devs delete or abandon their projects because of too mush abuse. Nobody likes being yelled at. (Unless that’s your kink. I won’t judge.)

feoh,

Couldn’t agree more.

For what it’s worth I think Brett Cannon wrote one of the best posts ever on the social contract of open source and how Not To Be That Guy :)

snarky.ca/the-social-contract-of-open-source/

Should be required reading IMO for anyone ever on Github :P

Pika,

just spent a few mins reading it, definitly agree with you, required for any issue reporter

hiramfromthechi,
@hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world avatar

Should be required reading IMO for anyone ever on Github :P

Fixed.

seth,

Are you the developer for SMUI? Small world to see a username I recognized from another site. Nice-looking components! 👍

hperrin,

I am. Thanks! :) I built my email service, port87.com with it.

seth,

Oh that’s an interesting concept, I’ve been using username+label@gmail in a similar way for years, and missed it when I switched to proton

ky56,

Open source developers: Why aren’t more people using open source software software for everything. It’s better.

Also open source developers: Oh it broke your computer, well that’s your problem. You should have had a software engineering degree in order to vet the software yourself.

User goes back to closed source paid spyware… ahem software.

Open source developers: Why aren’t more people using open source software software for everything. It’s better.

hperrin, (edited )

It didn’t break his computer. In trying to fix it, he deleted his node_modules directory, and now he’s complaining that he has to run npm install and wait for it to finish.

So to be clear, it was his own action that caused him to have to reinstall everything.

ky56,

The entitlement of the open source community can be astonishingly deaf. You tell users that open source is better, users try it and your response is, oh it’s free software, you get what you pay for.

Pay who? If I donate do I get paid support? Almost any other paid product/service based off that project almost certainly won’t be open source and probably subscription spyware. So your answer to use open source is don’t use open source???

If this is your attitude on your repo then don’t imply/demonstrate it as for production ready use. It a personal fun dev project not fit for mainstream use. Pick a side, you can’t have both.

hperrin,

I actually offer consulting services for this library in particular, so yes, if you pay, you get paid support.

CurlyMoustache,
@CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

There’s a difference between trying to find out what is wrong and being a cunt.

If this person had asked politely after quickly searching for answers, the developer’s response would most likely be different and helpful

ky56,

Absolutely. Should have clarifying that I’m not defending the attitude and abuse of developers. However driving non technical end users to insanity with ill thought through processes is also wrong. Such as expecting users to write bug reports when an automated tool should be being used. An unclear installation guide where 90% of user run into the same problem. etc.

Linus’s (LTT) Linux challenge was the ultimate test of the open source community and they failed miserably. Blaming linus for bricking the system. Um hello, he never should have been incentivized to open the command line at all.

baseless_discourse, (edited )

There is a tradeoff between UX, user liberty, and user privacy. Traditionally, Linux is leaning heavily towards liberty. However now there are systems have locked down core system (like chrome os or mac os), so it is impossible to mess things up. Yet user might complain that they “cannot do anything”.

As for telemetry, privacy is a fundamental pillar of human right. I admire FOSS communities’ stance on privacy by default, and I don’t think they should change that. Although now opt-in privacy preserving telemetry is slowly getting implemented in Linux, I think it is a good thing, but needs still be treated carefully. Privacy-preserving telemetry is good, but it is notoriously hard to guarantee such correctness.

Finally, I think the bug Linus encountered is extremely rare. The flatpak install script is broken, and the apt install removes DE. I don’t think there are any documented incident of both installation methods to have such critical failure. It is even more unfortunate that it happens just as the most popular tech youtuber decides to try Linux.

OnlineAccount150,

I don’t mean any ill will toward the guy. He’s frustrated and he’s just taking it out in the wrong venue at the wrong people, but that doesn’t mean he’s a bad person.

But he is a bad person. He’s being a fucking idiot and being insulting to the person who made the software for him in the first place.

People like that don’t deserve patience and understanding. Perhaps a good response would be “this software is free for you to use, if you don’t like it then fuck off and make your own”.

mako,

But he is a bad person.

People like that don’t deserve patience and understanding.

These black and white statements won’t do you or anyone else any good. We understand that an inconsiderate or rude act doesn’t define a person when we can believe that about ourselves and love ourselves despite our many mistakes and cring-worthy incidents.

When we love ourselves we begin to offer others the same grace and understanding we allow ourselves. We see the myriad reasons we don’t think or act how we’d like to and realize that everyone else’s life is just as difficult and confusing, and often for reasons we’ll never see or understand.

Grain9325,

And here I am anxious thinking I might offend the devs so I spend way too much time thinking what I’ve written is not rude

platypus_plumba,

I’ve only had beef with a single dev ever. The maintainer of Prometheus, Brian Brazil, or whatever his name is. His attitude is so shitty towards people proposing actually good ideas that would push his product forward.

DeltaTangoLima,
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

Yeah, I had the same experience with the devs of Pushbullet, after constructively suggesting a few ways they might be able to work with proxy servers, and all I got back was “Proxies are bad, mmmmk?”.

Fucken Peter Pan-level mentality.

jasondj, (edited )

Proxies aren’t bad they are just dated.

Ironically the big problem with proxies is really that software doesn’t support them properly, usually due to lazy or unknowing devs.

THE_ANON, (edited )

Be him

Be useless to everyone

Use someones open source project

b***h about it

(Lemmy is removing the b word thats why i put it like that)

RobotToaster,

> not know how to use meme arrows

fl42v,

Nope, it’s just that message boards can’t md properly.

THE_ANON,

Fixed

ZOSTED,

rofl “meme arrows”

nomous,

> implying

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

Why is your comment blank

THE_ANON,

Is it dont know why man it is what it is i guess maybe an issue on your end ? not sure

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

Time to put in a bug report on the sync app!

ThirdWorldOrder,

Great now I have to spend my whole life reinstalling it

Sheeple, (edited )
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

It took me THIS LONG to understand the genius of your comment. The joke took me 12 hours lmao

ech,

“Lemmy” isn’t, afaik. Certain instances seem to have profanity filters. Probably not a great word to use in general, though.

THE_ANON,

Just meant it like b*****g about it not trying to offend anyone but that guy

ech,

Being offensive and trying to be offensive are not mutually inclusive. And I wasn’t intending that as a personal rebuke or anything. Just commenting that, in the context of profanity censors, that is a word usually better left unsaid anyhow. Sorry if it came off as a comment on you specifically.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted, (edited )
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It’s not Lemmy; it’s the instance you’re using.

demesisx, (edited )
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

Don’t be that second guy, use Nix.

I agree with OP, but the whole confrontation could’ve been avoided in the first place if all dependencies were spelled out to the letter in the form of a flake.nix with the latest accompanying flake.lock file.

hperrin,

It’s a frontend JavaScript UI library. I can’t control what other dependencies people install alongside my library, or even whether they follow my library’s dependency list.

ParetoOptimalDev,

Isn’t package.json for controlling what dependency versions people install with?

I think I’m missing something.

jjjalljs,

Yeah JavaScript is a horrible language and ecosystem in a lot of ways, but package.json and friends don’t really give me much trouble.

And even if you hose something, you should be able to clear it out and reinstall easily.

I’m assuming the maintainer didn’t (knowingly) make a breaking change in a minor/patch release. That’s a high crime.

hperrin, (edited )

Yes, and I have a package.json that lists dependencies and the versions I test with. You can force a different version though. I don’t think that’s what happened here. I’m guessing it’s a version of some dependency that should work, because it was released as a minor version within the range I specified, but doesn’t actually work.

It could also be an issue with the build system/bundler, which I can’t really control either.

demesisx,
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

Are you sure about that?

taladar,

Don’t be the guy who ignores reports that your software doesn’t work with new dependency versions just because you can’t be arsed to test with anything else even if the report looks like a legitimate problem.

hperrin,

I have been testing with the original reporter of the problem. This guy came in, said he had the same problem, then cursed at me.

taladar,

That was less directed at you and more at the idea that just pinning versions solves the issue which is unfortunately very frequent among proponents of things like vendoring, nix, Docker containers and similar tools that allow a project to stay on an old version for potentially years. Sorry if that came across that way.

Ashiette,

I swear Nix users are the mormons of the Linux world.

AlmightySnoo,
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

They’re worse than us Arch users (btw)

fl42v,

As a former arch user, I advocate for both XD

natecox,
@natecox@programming.dev avatar

I’m a nix user and I’m disappointed by how apt this comparison is.

noodlejetski,

ehehehe you said “apt”

Trail,

Did you get it?

noodlejetski,

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE KIND SIR I DID GET YOUR SUBTLE REFERENCE

ParetoOptimalDev,

Yes, but one of our promises is real… Just a real pain in the ass sometimes.

Abnorc,

Are you saying that I will get my own planet if I use Nix?

demesisx,
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

Guilty. But substitute Mormonism with the proper way to do things.

null,

Upvoted in Nix solidarity. One day they’ll understand.

demesisx,
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

I think it’s funny. We are the new “I use Arch, BTW” and I’m happy to embrace it.

null,

I just hate having to re-configure all my stuff whenever I set up a new box 🤷

demesisx,
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

Agreed. That and I hate Docker with a burning passion.

jadedwench,

As someone who is out of the loop a lot, what is it about Docker that you hate? What do you use instead?

It took me weeks to wrap my head around it, but now I enjoy being able to spin something up without too much work. At work we have the whole CICD thing with Docker and K8, but I am pretty far removed from what they have to do in the run files.

What other kinds of workflows do people use these days?

demesisx,
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

Nix flakes are all I need to completely replace Docker.

stevedidWHAT,
@stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world avatar

When you have blocked most of the troll instances and have no idea what’s going on in these comments

Croquette,

How do you know that someone is on a blocked instance?

Snowpix, (edited )
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

If you look at the number of comments Lemmy says there are, versus the number of comments visible, the difference is how many people from blocked instances there are.

I’ve seen one post where it said there were 51 comments, but none would appear for me. That’s because all of the comments were from instances blocked or defederated by my instance.

Croquette,

Makes sense, thanks for the explanation

mindbleach,

See also: the hard parts of open source.

dessalines,

I just watched this, it was a very good video, experienced a lot of the same things he did/does, thx. Was really interesting learning about the history of some these “alienated loner with god-complex” that was cultivated in early tech. Also good stuff about how the purpose for a given space shapes the discussion and interactions.

A lot of us understand the problem: that silicon-valley, in pursuit of profits and engagement, has wrecked peoples brains with traumatizing ragebait for years, and how stressful it makes all of our lives. We have to do everything we can to make these spaces the opposite: enjoyable, fun, and at the same time not addictive.

IgnacioM,
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I see this in the comments section of Skyrim mods and it pisses me off so much

blazeknave,

It’s every game and the bigger the community the lower the denominator.

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