I hope someday we'll find a way to pirated a car

In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn’t feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

Pat_Riot,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

There is not one single new car on the market that I would take possession of if you gave it to me for free. I like having a manual transmission and a radio with buttons.

pigup,
Maalus,

It’s the nature of time that the old ways must give in. Automatics outperform manual at every level, and most people would rather drive an automatic than a manual. Even here in Europe, where manuals have been the “default” forever.

Pancito, (edited )
@Pancito@lemmy.world avatar

What? Most people buy manuals here in Europe. And automatic are available… Tho, with the rise of electric cars, both manual and automatic get obsolete

Maalus,

If people were only buying manuals, there wouldn’t be a push to put automatics everywhere, especially sports cars. More than 50% of cars in Europe are now automatic. Only 3% of new cars are manual. The old meets the new, and the people chose the new thing. That’s usually what happens. The age of the manual transmission comes to an end.

Pancito, (edited )
@Pancito@lemmy.world avatar

Source? And automatic is not ‘new’

Maalus,

It is new in Europe.

gearsmagazine.com/…/automatic-trends-in-europe-au….

This for instance.

Pancito,
@Pancito@lemmy.world avatar

Ok, I accept your source and facts, but it will decrease in the next 15 years because of the rise of electric cars anyways.

monstoor,

My dad was driving automatic Jags back in the late 1970s, but he did work in the motor trade. I am seeing more and more automatics around but I still think manual is king (at least in the UK) for the time being. If nothing else, you can save some fuel driving an auto!

viking,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

Yeah I don’t like automatic either, and have an aversion towards anything that needs a touchscreen to operate.

madcaesar,

I’d rephrase that. If you give me a new car for free, of course I’m taking it!

BUT

Buying a new car, right now, as somone who’s actively looking and keeping up with the market… There really aren’t good cars for a reasonable price. A lot of new cars have been enshitified.

rbos,
@rbos@lemmy.ca avatar

I don’t even have a licence. I’d take it. Those gave pretty okay resale value. ^_-

Thorny_Insight,

It’s not like older vehicles came with those features enabled by default. On my 15 year old pickup you can’t have any of that even if you paid for it. I think this is not quite the same as other brands that are locking you out of features like heated seats.

Kongar,

Pretty sure there were cars around 15 years ago with remote start, heated seats, and fancy ways to lock and unlock. No there weren’t phone apps, but nobody wanted that - key fobs worked just fine.

My 2021 jeep’s key fob has an unbelievable range and works fine. My wife’s ford does have a phone app, but it’s completely free.

This is nothing more than a money grab.

legion02,

Not “start from anywhere” like this service is.

Badeendje, (edited )
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

Actually with roadside Assistance included thats not half bad.

bionicjoey,

Don’t think about the one actual subscription service here. Think about all of the features that are technologically built into the car that you can’t access without paying a subscription fee.

VieuxQueb,
@VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca avatar

The options I see on this screenshot seem to be options that need a data connection to work, so I can understand a subscription for that. There is no free Internet mobile connection afterall. The monthly payment option is expensive for sure but the annual option is not too bad.

Badeendje, (edited )
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

That is an excellent point… and to that I also agree. My car from 2018 does all these things for free, even with a data connection.

wesker, (edited )
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

If you buy an older car, you will likely still have none of the functions listed in those supscriptions. Just don’t buy the subscriptions.

devilish666,

Well although older car doesn’t have subscription & sometimes break the emition regulation at least i can repair & modified it by my self, all i need is OBD & some skill tho
In the end I don’t need to worry about subscription, because it doesn’t have it at all plus I don’t need to worry about SOFTWARE UPDATES THAT CAN BREAK CAR, as long as you have gas & your car engine is healthy enough it can run no matter what

RobotToaster,

Just need some bigger 3d printers.

devilish666,

Well I’ve seen company that make boat from huge 3d printer, maybe if we can get our hands at that technology level I think it’ll work

Outtatime,
@Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

Game console manufacturing companies used to use people for modding a console that the person owned fair and square. And they won.

Pounddc1,

HMU on telegram if you got verified Id.me let hit $100k upwards and split @pounddc1

Pounddc1,

HMU on telegram if you got verified Id.me let hit $100k upwards and split @pounddc1

pete_the_cat,

Kia’s just suck in general AFAIK. My friend has a 2010 Kia Sorento and he has some “device” on top of the positive (?) terminal of his battery. The terminal ring is a bit loose so it doesn’t make proper contact with the battery terminal and he has to hold it against it so that he can start his car.

I thought he was bullshitting me at first because he’s not a car guy and told me before that when his car was fucking up that it was the transmission, but it was the coil packs. Nope, there’s a big black box on the top of the battery and he said that only Kia can service it, and it’ll cost like $800 to fix.

AdolfSchmitler,

For $120 a year the Kia boys can total your car anyway!

dog_,

They also made them easy to steal!

CaptainProton,

Directed or viper smart-start… Same thing but $60 a year, and can be retrofitted into some really old cars.

Problem is with the increasingly non-standardized designs, it’s just not realistic to build a module for every car that’s out there.

Nobody,

You wouldn’t download [the basic features of an item you already purchased.]

bartolomeo,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

I might be the guy that shows up at the revolution for the most trivial reason but I hate that it says $59.00 per annually like companies think they’re so smart for having business school graduates on staff charging for things only business school graduates would think to charge for but they can’t even get basic grammar right.

Octagon9561,

You wouldn’t download a car?

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