I mean, seriously, who is still watching this streaming stuff? I mean I’ve heard there are still DVD renting stores somewhere… It’ll die eventually and they know it, they just wanna extract as much as possible from the rotting corpse & the worst is: they’ll get it.
During last year, I watched two series (only murders, Andor) and one movie. Disney+ is convenient and I can share the account with some friends. But at some point, it’s literally cheaper to buy the things I watch directly and then also own them. Set up a Plex instance and it’s also easier to share with friends.
Considering they’re the one who pushed for decades to extend the Copyright period from the original 20 years to “Death of Author + 75 years” (so, around 125+ years), making the entering in our lifetime into the Public Domain of any of the cultural elements we grew up in pretty much de facto impossible, thus breaking the quid-pro-quo of Copyright Legislation, I’m surprised that anybody here sees the Disney Corporation as anything but Evil.
These people did more damage to freedom in modern society (as Copyright also affects things like Software) than anybody else.
Honestly till death of auther I can at least understand as many creators like to make characters a part of their identity and after death they are dead how are they going to profit from the ip and what about the fans who I’m most cases can no longer enjoy new content and after saying all of that I probably only think that because of the ip culture created by the legal environment created by Disney
I think it should be a flat number of years like 20 years, giving the author plenty of time to exclusively control his IP and then afterwards they can still profit because they can still make things from the same IP and sell them to people knowing that they were the founder of the IP.
I feel like the death of the author clause gives a perverse incentive to murder the author so that their IP becomes public domain sooner.
Honestly considering where we are 40 years would probably be a good transition on the way to 20 considering how much corporations today like their 80s ips so making everything made before the 80s public domain could allow a actual proposal like this to not get shot down by corporations like Disney you do bring up a good point with the perverse incentive
The lowest common denominators dictate the market, Netflix has best sales in recent years for hiking and consumers couldn’t live without it and now Disney is wanting a taste, and I’d imagine it’ll work out well for them.
Disney especially has all but totally captured their target demographics, and not many working parents are likely to put the time into setting up a Plex and torrenting movies for their kid(s). Sadly, it’s easier to shell over an unreasonably large fee, and let their kids have at it.
It’s unreasonable in the context that while streaming services were intended to be an affordable alternative to cable without sacrificing content variety, having the same level of variety now requires four or five subscriptions. Not an issue unique to Disney, but they and other movie studios have hiked movie rental costs, along with maintaining unreasonable pricing for BluRay releases, as a means of inflating the valuation of their IP catalog.
The fact that — in contrast to having four or five subscriptions over the span of two years— it’s economical to run one’s own 16TB or 32TB capacity media server (and even subsequently pay for replacement hard drives as needed) demonstrates that the subscription platforms, able to run such servers far more economically per user than anyone can do themselves, are retaining excessively high profit margins in contrast to the compensation paid to the people actually involved in producing content.
I don’t think you can fault streaming services for people not properly managing their finances. That’s more on the public schools not actually teaching any helpful life skills.
Death by a thousand cuts though. I had to sit a co-worker down and go over his finances because he never learnt at home or school. The amount of €10-25 monthly subscriptions this guy had meant he spent about €500 per month on those. On top of buying everything on payments because he never has any savings.
It’s another example of making use of the flawed human psyche which can’t keep track of the little things.
It’s families. Dual income with several kids, yeah the fees sting, but when your cashflow is high and your savings nil, $200 a year doesn’t sound crazy. It’s not smart, and it’s not fair, but if you know any parents of young children you can see how they could make that decision.
My partner drives our neighbour’s kids around sometimes, so we rack up seats on family streaming accounts that way.
Can confirm. My wife and I pay about half for a shared account so our nieces can watch bluey and whatnot. We, their parents, and their grandma also get the rest of the content as a bonus, and everyone else chips in a little for the price too.
If they started limiting streaming like Netflix is doing, it suddenly wouldn’t be worth the cost anymore. But as long as we have 5 adults with jobs splitting the bill, it’s really not that bad.
Always funny seeing rubes be like “it’s on this streaming service” or “I don’t have that streaming service.”
You can stream pretty much anything for free here: fmoviesz.to
All you need is uBlock Origin.
Seeing the discussion always center around paid streaming services just shows me how stupid the average person is these days. They’re proud to pay more, for less. Lol. I guess that’s why they’re called useful idiots.
Never had Disnkey, so this is more about Netflix. Back at the beginning, I didn’t mind paying a fair price for a service that made discovery and streaming easy and convenient. Plus subscriptions going to fund more interesting content? Amazing! Yeah, it’s a bit of platform capitalism, but the fees were reasonable and they spread the wealth in a way I agreed with.
I’m still not against a service that keeps its fees reasonable for what it’s providing.
Let people be stupid. Don’t share the link openly… fm0vi35 is already too good to be true. If people start canceling subscriptions for it, it will be a target to take down.
Not sure how you missed out last time they increased the subscription cost. You must have renewed immediately before the increase from $80. That said, I'm out. The Android TV app has been having annoying audio issues and I've already cancelled every other service because of pricing.
Why do we care about this on a piracy community? I never cared about prices and fees I don’t have to pay for anyway! Tough luck for those of you how sub to Disney.
The fact that there are multiple people in this community that have commented that they are cancelling their sub shows the value of sharing this post. Not all pirates are pure plunderers. There’s a good amount of us that pay for content that is appropriately valued to them.
I’m sure it’s cheaper to maintain overall too, not including the one-time costs of hardware. Plus as you said, control is very valuable - and you get privacy, too! Nobody selling your usage data.
TBH, it would depend on how many services I’m theoretically replacing, and whether you count the people I’ve shared my library with. Before I went down the rabbit hole, cost was the motivation, but I’m long past that.
Between the usenet subs, paid search engines, power for a 24 bay server running 24x7, and adding a new drive every few months, I can’t really defend it on a cost basis for my own use (though that’s not to say it can’t be done considerably cheaper).
Similarly, I’m giving my data to a handful of usenet search engines and 2 usenet providers my data (though I trust all of them more than the likes of Disney and Netflix)
With all that said, I’ve never looked back. It’s a hobby project for me, I have total control, can help out my friends and family, and use the server for other stuff like private cloud hosting, home automation, network ad-blocking, etc…
Yep, looking at doing the exact same thing myself, albeit smaller scale to start with. I’m glad to hear you’re enjoying the ride despite the cost, because I know I’m headed down the same path, lol. Cheers.
If you need any guidance from this idiot, feel free to reach out.
The best general advice I can give is if you want something reasonably large and flexible is to start with Unraid from the outset - I mucked around with a good number of alternatives, with all the hassle that involves before finding this straightforward, super-flexible solution. Otherwise, maybe look at a synology-type appliance for something smaller-scale and less versatile.
Thanks! If I can be candid, I almost asked for your best piece of advice in my previous comment, so I appreciate it. I’ve heard great things about both - Synology especially people always seem to have good things to say. Still doing the research and deciding the best hardware path for the use case at the moment, so I’ll be sure to keep you in mind and pick your brain sometime!
A) I often rewatch things, especially shows like Family Guy just to make noise while I do something else.
B) there’s lots difficult to find media like the 1960s Dr Who series or the entire works of Buster Keaton that can’t just be streamed whenever.
C) I share with several friends and family, just because I’ve seen it doesn’t mean they have.
D) Control/security over my collection. When I want to watch a piece of media, I know its there and available. It hasn’t disappeared from whatever service (free or paid) had it last I looked.
And finally
E) No internet access required. If my internet is out, or I want to go somewhere I won’t have internet: I still have full access to my media. (files can be freely moved to mobile devices that won’t have network whenever I feel like it)
/edit. As a side note; I’ve also automated media acquisition via radarr+sonarr. I just open a self-hosted web page, search for a title, click ‘add+search’ and 20min later it’s been found, downloaded and is available to watch. My users can even request media via Ombi without having to ask me. I don’t have to spend any time looking for media ever (be that a streaming link or a torrent).
Well, I use Russian streaming services. All the media imaginable is instantly available to me and I can download it for offline use if I need it. No need for NAS at all.
I will not support a Russian service, nor will it accommodate my needs.
The biggest reason for this route is that, once setup, finding/watching whatever I or my family wants is as close to effortless as It can be. I don’t have to deal with shady services, nor am I at their mercy (referring to access and content availability). This is particularly important when sharing with friends/family that are not tech savvy. If they have an issue, I can actually do something about it and don’t have to hold their hand through some shady third party site or worry that they’ve gotten themselves into trouble. Once it’s been downloaded, everyone I’ve shared with can access it at anytime hassle and worry free. I (and the rest of my users) don’t have to use caution browsing or streaming from my platform, while I do with random sketchy services. A problem made much worse with alcohol.
It’s not effortless, you have to search for content somewhere and download it. Instead of going to a known service which has everything for you in one place at all times. This is particularly important for non tech savvy people - you just tell them streaming service address and login/password and they can watch anything they want without waiting for you to download stuff.
No I don’t. Now that my server is setup (which it has been for 7+ years), I spend 0 time or effort searching for media files or sources for them.
As I said, I open my own self-hosted web page, search for a title (results from IMDB, The TVDB, and TheMovieDB), and click ‘add’. The software does all the rest: from finding a download link to actually downloading the files, to renaming and sorting them into my media library, even grabbing all the metadata like synopsis, cast, ratings, posters, and a trailer to present it in a netflix-style interface.
My users can also open a webpage hosted by me and request media with the same lack of effort, to be acquired automatically, typically ready to watch in under 15min.
Half the time we don’t even have to do that as the software is also monitoring various lists from IMDB, automatically adding media that gets added to those lists, as well as grabbing every new episode of every show in my library as they release.
My library literally builds/expands itself. Most of the time whatever we wanted to watch has already been grabbed, and the few times it hasn’t, it’ll be available in as little as 3min once requested. (note: just because it’s been downloaded, doesn’t mean it’s gotta be kept forever. Some stuff does get rotated out.)
Instead of going to a known service which has everything for you in one place at all times. This is particularly important for non tech savvy people
I am the known service my users come to. They don’t have to trust a third party, deal with their restrictions/whims, or worry at all.
That third party could at anytime remove your access, disappear/go offline, decide to (intentionally or accidentally) host malware, fall prey to the law, remove the content you wanted, or any other plethora of problems with dealing with third parties.
As long as I’ve got power; I’ve got literal years (played back to back, no breaks) of content to entertain me and my family. I’m dependant on nobody in that aspect.
has everything for you in one place at all times.
Unless all you ever watch is newly released mainstream media this is blatantly false. I have never ever encountered a streaming service with anything close to the range of media my cricle enjoys.
Ontop of all this; my server will also transcode between formats and quality settings on the fly so users with poor connections or device’s that can’t directly play the stored format can still stream without buffering. I’ve never known a service outside the big name streaming platforms to do this (YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, etc). Several of my users have garbage internet, but will happily watch media in a reduced quality to avoid buffering. Awesome for mobile data too; I regularly watch media on my bus ride home from work.
Unless all you ever watch is newly released mainstream media this is blatantly false. I have never ever encountered a streaming service with anything close to the range of media my cricle enjoys.
That’s because you don’t know where to look. I watched all of the original Doctor Who without any issues. It’s not Netflix, lol.
That’s the power of usenet. My downloads are limited by disk speed, not my connection. Didn’t believe it myself until I had it running. I used to use torrents which were slow af.
That’s because you don’t know where to look.
Exactly the damn problem; you have to look for, depend on, and trust some other service to have it available to stream when you want to stream it.
I just throw names at my server whenever I happen to hear of something interesting to watch (often while I am at work) and it finds it for me. I can then watch and share it with as many people as I like without involving anyone or anything else whenever I want to.
/edit: for the record, I’m not the one downvoting you.
What the fuck math are you people doing? It went up from $110/year to 140/year. That’s a 20% increase. Still shit…but where in the fuck are you people getting a 75% increase? Just fucking google it and you’ll see that OP is completely wrong…
If you look at what OP posted they were paying only $80, which means they raised to $110 so recently that OP hadn't even gotten that price increase before they raised it again.
I had to go double check what I’m paying. £96 for the middle tier (1080 not 4k I think), this is approx $116… So sounds like you guys were previously on a better deal (assuming same library access)
Lemmys users have the same habits as redditors. The same jokes are recycled here for upvotes too. It’s the same site but upvote numbers are divided by 50
I paid $ 79.99 less than a year ago. If they hiked it from 80 to 110, then hiked it again in less than a year that makes their practice even worse. They saw no dip in users so they thought they could go back for another bend over the bar.
I paid $80 last year. I’ve got another month before it expires and it would then be $140. If they have raised the price in multiple increments throughout the year doesn’t change the fact that it’s 75% more expensive for people renewing over last years price.
I’m not defending them, but this was clearly always the plan. It was obvious they intended to enter the market just under competitor prices to establish a foothold and then later charge more and reset the industry standard in doing so.
Again, I’m not saying it doesn’t suck, because it does, but this was clearly the Disney+ game plan since day 1
I knew this too but didn’t expect it to go this high so fast. Oh well, I’ll finish setting up my deluge headless + VPN gateway lxc and get back to high seas.
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