I am pouring one out to this little champ. Stripping HDCP and letting me... archive streaming services from 2016-2023 RIP

What killed it, well after reviewing some PS4 gameplay I noticed that it was having audio issues, like it would allow some sounds but not all. It was almost as if it was receiving a 5.1 audio output but was missing the centre channel. Even though the PS4 was set to stereo.

After trying various cables, configs, and boxes. I narrowed it down to this box. Not sure what killed it, whether it’s just old, or that it’s been powered on for over 5 years straight. But its long service will never be forgotten in the hours of Netflix and Disney Plus it passed through to my recorder.

TexMexBazooka,

Can I ask a little more about your setup? What is your recorder, is it like a cap card or a dedicated system?

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t want to spill the beans on what I’m currently using since I don’t want it to be patched. But I can tell you what I use to use before my current config. Since apps and devices have updated to a point I found better ones.

I use to run an old Samsung Tablet with USB C video out and one of those Amazon bargain bin tablets with HDMI.

Once this bad boy strips the HDCP any old HDMI recorder can record the signal. At a time I used the Elgato HD60, but I’ve moved on since due to HDR content causing it problems.

ToeNailClippings,

They’re great little boxes just for generally fixing issues with compatibility between things like satellite boxes and various older TVs. The little components do tend to wear out after a while though as they use cheap capacitors and thin traces to chips.

killeronthecorner,
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

You need to make the “you were the best” comic meme with this pasted in

SchizoDenji,

I never used these. I do get a complimentary amazon prime subscription, so can I use a capture card to screen record/rip 4k content from prime?

ToeNailClippings,

In theory yes. Some only work at 1080p, depends on the unit and the streaming service you use. They’re like 9 quid though so no real loss if you buy one and it doesnt work for your particulars.

SchizoDenji,

I have a decent gaming PC, amazon prime video. Is there a way I can verify that it records 4k? I’m also looking to upload/seed this somewhere.

ToeNailClippings,

You should see it in the resolution of the file as it would scale it down. It depends if there is a re-encode chip or if there is a pass-through facility. Your PC card should also tell you what the incoming signal/resolution is.

Crackhappy,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

I have had so many devices that went on long past their service life. Imma pour one out with you my friend.

Slovene,

m.youtube.com/watch?v=xRvCwtLLV6I

01189998819991197253,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

No way to buy another? What’s the part number? I’ll help look.

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

I already have one, not to worry. Plus they are easy to find on Amazon or eBay.

TexMexBazooka,

Can you specify a brand at least?

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

I might’ve already replied with it in this post, I might not have. Who really knows.

klyde,
@klyde@lemmy.world avatar

You act like you’re the only person in the world doing this lol. Just fucking tell them.

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

I used to work as AV technician in a big corporation and had one of those that always saved my ass everytime someone with a MacBook wanted to do a presentation.

PM_Your_Nudes_Please,

Yup, same. For the unaware: Macs have always-on HDCP, and it doesn’t always work as intended.

Lots of times, I’m trying to run a projector with a feed from the presenter’s laptop. Laptop is on stage, projector is in the tech booth. And the line in between the stage and the booth will complete the video signal, but not the HDCP handshake. So Windows machines will work fine, but Macs will just outright refuse to send anything.

So yes, I keep an HDCP stripper handy, because whenever a client pulls a MacBook out I know I’m going to need it.

MomoTimeToDie,

I get why hdcp exists, but why the fuck would apple enable it permanently, for everything? They afraid of people pirating their own desktop or something?

shadow,

Because it accelerates the user experience when transitioning from non-hdcp to hdcp-protected content on their display(s). There’s no need for re-negotiation of the display protocol causing some minor flickering during the transition.

But that only matters if you’re presenting mixed content.

Yeah.

lemann,

Ouch! Thankfully haven’t run into this issue… either the display adapter I use has a HDCP stripper inside, or my Linux install isn’t enforcing HDCP on my macbook

Morgikan,
@Morgikan@lemm.ee avatar

I’m terribly sorry for your loss. Here is some music to help. www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJWYTetgsns

joemo, (edited )

Here’s some.more music for your loss: youtu.be/G44xTr8D_bw

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

And here’s your link without the damn tracker: youtu.be/G44xTr8D_bw

joemo,

Updated thanks!

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

display port is better

pivot_root,

It absolutely is, but that’s not relevant for this post.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

k

hashferret,

Bit of a tangent but: How dangerous is ripping and distributing web content these days? Like how prevalent is watermarking or other methods that could identify the account the recording originated from?

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure about others, but I don’t distribute the content I record or backup, outside of an offsite backup. For me my biggest concern is getting a clean copy for myself, and with certain fruity tablets and a mirrored screen it’s good source to record from for my needs.

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

HDCP is so fucking dumb, I couldn’t play Switch on my old projector because of it and it’s useless in stopping anything from being pirated.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Most anti-piracy measures are useless at stopping piracy.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I’m convinced it has something to do with appeasing ignorant investors.

kadu,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

Companies that sell these DRM schemes, or the groups of companies that come up with the “standards” and ask for a licensing fee, don’t actually believe the solution works to prevent piracy - the investors also do not believe this. They’re just happy to get a tiny fee whenever somebody in the world buys a CD, DVD, streams on Netflix, buys a monitor, a cable, a console, etc.

It’s like creating a closed source media codec, but even easier because you can justify it’s cost with fear.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I meant investors of the media publishers, not the creators of the DRM.

Publishers certainly know it doesn’t work but their investors probably demand that they “do something”.

joemo,

Similar to the war on drugs… Weird.

Crackhappy,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

I fly a giant fucking pirate flag with skull and crossbones and no one ever stops me. All they do is say “Are you a pirate?” or “Say Jack Sparrow”. Tcchh bitch please, I’ll torrent your mom’s prom night.

StorminNorman,

I torrent so much I had to switch to 720p to save space and still have a backlog of 3tb. I blame my ADHD, I have to hoard everyyyyyyyyything.

theangryseal,

Phones finally stopped my hoarding.

On my desktop pc I have almost every file I’ve downloaded since 1998. Seriously.

Want that old specific version of Nero to burn CDs, I probably have you. Looking for abandonware? Yeah, that was my thing for awhile.

I used to have operating systems I can’t find any record of existing these days (mostly front ends for DOS made to seem more modern in the early 00s). I had something that made Windows 3.1 look like Windows 95, I even had something that made Windows 98 look just like Mac OS 8 (no shit, it layered over windows and everything flawlessly).

I had every version of Mandrake Linux and several versions after the rename.

Tonnns of software to extend the life of 16 bit hardware.

I still have several screeners in 240p from the early 2000s with the audience moving around and laughing in them.

I have a decent collection of Nirvana bootlegs I downloaded from FTP servers way back in the day.

Man I miss the old internet. I’m getting old and that’s part of it I guess.

I find myself hoarding on the Steam Deck desktop too. Something about having a wide open file system just brings that impulse out in me.

itsralC,

Have you checked if they have that stuff on archive.org? I’m sure plenty of people would appreciate them.

theangryseal,

That’s a project I’ll certainly undertake one day. Thank you for the suggestion.

gd42,

I use an Dell docking station with my laptop. Any webpage with Spotify embed turns off my external displays because somewhere along the line the video signal loses the DRM certification. It’s infuriating.

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

I get and like HDCP. Mostly because of how easy it can be to bypass. I’d rather have a universal “we tried” standard, than an honest attempt to stop this. With today’s tech and online focused DRM, HDCP could be a lot worse, and I am happy where it is right now.

Like Adobe Digital Editions or Kindle for eBook DRM.

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

That’s the thing though: Ultimately, there is no stopping it with restrictive technology.

The only real way to stop piracy is to offer a good service for a good price.

UltraMagnus0001,

They haven’t learned and the cycle starts again with streaming services doubling, then they wonder why they’re losing revenue.

Rabbit,

Biggest evidence of that is Epic will give away games for free, but there will be people who prefer to pay for the Steam version over the free version.

That’s the biggest evidence that piracy is a problem of distribution and goes against the idea that those who pirates are against paying for a product.

coaxil,

I’m one of these people!

joemo,

Second.

I also waited out the release of some games that launched on the Epic store first. I begrudgingly bought them on Steam, and I hope enough others did to discourage other companies from doing that in the future.

Crismus,

I do the same thing. I never got an Epic account, and really spend more money on GOG.

I enjoy the Epic exclusives because when it lands on Steam or GOG, it’s usually feature complete and less buggy.

lemann,

Seconded. I like having all my games in one place, on all my devices, with Linux support out-of-the-box thanks to Proton. Also, Steam DRM is easy to bypass with code available on GitHub if you really wanted to.

Epic does none of this for me, and I won’t support a company that called all gamers “shmucks” or whatever that C suite said

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Biggest evidence of that is Epic will give away games for free, but there will be people who prefer to pay for the Steam version over the free version.

Ehhh as much as I’d like to think that’s true, I think that has more to do with managing a bunch of clients and launchers. And also that those clients and launchers are full of spyware and bloatware and ads.

I used to not buy anything on Epic but then I got Heroic Launcher and now I’m not so terribly opposed to it. I have the Steam launcher and then I have HGL for Epic, GOG, and Amazon.

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

Yup, outside of legacy PC titles which will never get a re-release, a 1-2 combo shot of GOG and Steam, I don’t pirate games. I even took the time to find way to backup my games so I can get legal ROMs too.

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, GOG and Steam are pretty much the only ways I play games and I’ve bought a shitload of games from them both over the years.

lemann,

I even took the time to find way to backup my games so I can get legal ROMs too.

I have a FHDB PS2 and soooo many games to back up 😭 ughhh.

I have a few titles that I “backed up” 🏴‍☠️ already, but i’m not looking forward to ripping my physical disks… my PS1 library took the entire day and two cd drives, sadly most of those disks were partially unreadable

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

PS2 discs can be ripped on a PC with a DVD player. Same with PS1. The PlayStation copy protection was on system not the media.

milkjug,

Same, I have never pirated any game since the day I installed steam for the first time. It just makes buying games so much easier, and I don’t have to worry about drm or malware at all.

In my case, I rather pay a one-stop reasonable price for content than deal with the hassle of piracy.

Blackmist,

Especially with music and video. At some point it has to enter your eyes/ears, and even if HDCP wasn’t shit, you could always just record what was on your screen or coming out of your speakers.

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

There will always be many ways to circumvent this stupid bulllshit

LuycYQ2uUiTjR3yLri,

Ah yes, the classic analog hole. Next thing you know, “premium” content will need Premium Certified custom eyes and ears, only for the small installation fee of $59.99/month.

Blackmist,

How much for the ad-free plan?

Oh wait, it’s from Amazon, so there’s only an ad-fewer plan.

localhost443,

The only legit media service I pay for now is YouTube. Before I get Amy lectures I am well aware of the issues with it, but also people still keep paying for Netflix as it cancels shows just as they start to grow, so… I’m a legacy google music sub, so moving over for me was a tiny cost increase to no longer mess with adblock on the site, though recently I do feel the YTM ‘radio’ algo is not as good as legacy google music. Self employed manufacturing stuff in my workshop all day either video or music is always on so its a bargain to me. My point being, that’s the only streaming sub I find worth paying for, out of everything. Maybe I’m an edge case but I just don’t see 4/5 of these services still existing in 5 years, its too much. Unless they can all survive on people subbing for 2-3 months a year

porksoda,

Or Cinavia on PS3.

muntedcrocodile,
@muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world avatar

I found a way to bypass one of those the other day for rented books found some tool on linux that did, so even that doesnt work

InformalTrifle,

Can you still get working ones? My old tv won’t get a signal from my new receiver because it’s not got a sufficient hdcp version. Would one of these work to avoid a new tv?

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

Q: Can you still get working ones? I presume so, they come from China, and I found another from Amazon a while back when I did some crazy updates to my setup. (3 HDMI outputs, Games gets split to the TV and to another Splitter which gets intercepted by a automatic switch. This switch has the game signal, but also an HDMI override signal that goes to my laptop or Tablet. That input goes to another splitter that goes to HDMI 2 on my TV and to my HDMI Recorded. This lets me play games while recording whats on my iPad, and lets me monitor my output just in case)

Q: Would one of these work to avoid a new TV? Maybe? Not sure TBH, though for the $9-$20 I’ve seen these for it’s worth looking up.

StorageB,

This website says yes a proper splitter will allow you to use your old TV

howtogeek.com/…/htg-explains-how-hdcp-breaks-your…

They link to this splitter:

www.amazon.com/dp/B004F9LVXC/

Codename_goose,
@Codename_goose@sh.itjust.works avatar

Any chance you remember the brand or manufacturer so that I might look for one, for myself?

StorageB,

This article

howtogeek.com/…/htg-explains-how-hdcp-breaks-your…

Links to this splitter to strip HDCP

www.amazon.com/dp/B004F9LVXC/

the16bitgamer, (edited )
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

No name brand, if you find one that looks like it, it’ll work. Typical search terms are “hdmi splitter 1 in 2 out”, any with EDI switches are busts, like the one from UGREEN.

EDITAlso avoid any with buttons, this is a HDMI duplicator, as in 1 signal goes in, that signal get duplicated and sent out both ports. The ones with buttons switches inputs, so 1 HDMI in 1 HDMI out, the button just chooses which HDMI is being used. Great for monitors with only 1 HDMI input.

Codename_goose,
@Codename_goose@sh.itjust.works avatar

Last question if I may, what recorder did/are you using in tandem with this splitter?

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

Once upon a time, Elgato HD60, I want to keep my current system under wraps, since I don’t want them to fix it ;)

RanchOnPancakes,
@RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world avatar

Pour one out for all the little unsung heroes that just get shit done for years. Looking at you cheap HDMI switcher on my desk.

Mr_Blott,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4d19edef-b638-40bd-80b9-8931965e350a.jpeg

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