Yes as of writing this, the instance works fine. But that’s what I’m saying, within an hour it’ll be down, or just show the thumbnails but not actually load videos.
The takehome is Google isn’t going to let Piped exist. And constantly does things to interfere which Piped can only do so much to bypass it all.
Mmh. They do so much silly stuff nowadays with the ad-blocker detection, handling browsers differently and people from different countries and all the magic that chooses your data rate and quality… I’m not surprised that it’s a different experience for everyone. Hope they don’t take third party frontends away from us for good. (I’d be also happy if every creator switches to a better alternative. But I don’t see that happen any time soon.)
Will you be informed and asked confirmation before the page is loaded?
I mean, even for self-signed/invalid certificates, most browsers allow you to optionally access the page anyway... it'll show some error page first, but it'll allow you to load it if you explicitly request to continue in the error page itself, right? and you'll get an eye-catching red icon indicating the website is untrusted... why can't browsers implement something similar to that? Just use a different icon and a different page/dialog to opt-in on first visit. Something that isn't as strong as the error page, but that makes it clear to the user which organization/government is responsible for authorizing the access.
But then again... why not simply have that website registered under .id.eu (for example) and have the EU use that DNS for registering/signing subdomains using eIDAS certificates? then there would be no risk for it to potentially poison other top-level domains if it's compromised. And imho, it would be great if when a citizen gets their eIDAS certificate it comes with a personal domain that they can freely use.
I feel I'm not fully understanding here neither what exactly is being asked nor the purpose for asking it.
Is there some more clear and unbiased information on this? ...the way they wanna call it "secret" is also very confusing to me, that smells of FUD... in which way is it "secret"? are there no public details about the request? "secret legislation" feels almost like an oximoron. I feel that what they want to say is that the controversial sections were introduced very late in the process, following some closed-door meetings, but that's no the same thing as the legislation being "secret"...
Edit, I’ll rephrase that. You can fork it and do whatever, even remove the “please donate” thing, but if you distribute any spy/malware versions they have legal avenues to force it to get taken down.
As confusing as it is, if you’re to follow the generally accepted definition from the Open Source Initiative, “open-source” doesn’t just mean open source code, but also openness to modification and redistribution - what you called free, others call libre, etc. Just having an open source code, they call “source available”.
But if “You can fork it and do whatever, even remove the “please donate” thing, but if you distribute any spy/malware versions they have legal avenues to force it to get taken down”, that sounds like open source to me? You can indeed modify and redistribute it in almost any way you would like!
That’s not a free software license though. Libre software must give you the right to run, study, modify and distribute the code. It doesn’t do that to my knowledge.
Correct it does not technically fit into FOSS, however the source code is still open for review, allowing you to run, study and modify the code. The only restriction is distribution.
If your personal model is to strictly use FOSS, then this program is not for you.
However, if your model is more about the ability to make personal modification, or to study the code to verify it is not malicious or spying, then this program allows for that.
It is also worth noting this program isn’t technically free (money), but there are no checks if you actually paid. It’s up to you and your own morals to pay or not. For me, I consider it no different than an obnoxious “buy me a coffee” button - if it bugs you that much, go delete it from the code you run.
TBH it’s not proprietary either. I’m OK with such licensing because it helps the developers fuck the clowns over who try to take their code without even a thanks. The source is available to audit if you’d like. That’s what I really care about.
The amount of FOSS snobbery in this community is hilarious. You typed that comment on a proprietary device with proprietary hardware, probably running proprietary software (unless you’re on Linux, truly using ALL open source stuff, including RISC-V hardware, FOSS browser and network stack). But God forbid an app is just source available instead of truly FOSS. Gasp! The horror! You should complain about it using one of the completely closed-source Android/iPhone apps that you use every day.
I run GNU/Linux on a Corebooted laptop. That’s my main device and the one I normally use to access Lemmy.
And FYI, I don’t run any proprietary app on my phone which runs a free software build of Android. Everything is installed from F-Droid.
It’s true that it runs proprietary firmware, but there’s currently no way around it. Unlike Grayjay, which is proprietary just because their greedy creators didn’t want people forking their app.
Fortunately, Invidious, Piped, Libretube and Newpipe all exist and work flawlessly so there’s no excuse to use proprietary trash like that.
Greedy? Lmao the app is free to use. My point is that you make compromises elsewhere with proprietary hardware and software, just like everybody else here, but you decide to draw the line at GrayJay just because it’s only source available? That’s silly, you’re just making yourself feel good with holier-than-thou bullshit.
Also, for the record, I’ve tried all the fully FOSS alternatives and they all have crap UX. GrayJay just works, like a good app should, and you can plug multiple accounts in from different platforms. It’s an excellent product, and it shows what excellent developers are capable of doing in a short time. It’s impressively stable for an app this young. But I guess you’ll never see for yourself because it’s “proprietary trash”. Lol.
you decide to draw the line at GrayJay just because it’s only source available?
I draw the line at the firmware level, yes, because sadly it’s insanely difficult to get a device that can be 100% free software. But from the OS level and up, everything that runs in my devices is free software. That of course includes apps. And Grayjay is no exception to that.
Source available or proprietary is the same to me, it restricts my freedoms as a computer user to not be able to freely modify and distribute my programs as I please.
Actually, I’d prefer for the Grayjay devs just to make it fully proprietary instead of falsely claiming it to be “open source” and using it as marketing. I have no problem with people using proprietary or source available programs. What bothers me are the misleading claims of the creator calling Grayjay open source, when clearly it is not.
Can’t you still modify and distribute Grayjay, just not commercially? I understand that still prevents the app from being considered open source, but their reasoning is valid IMO (to prevent people from making ad-infested clones on the play store, which has happened with NewPipe before).
I’ve been using FreeTube since Piped was very inconsistent for me, but I guess that’s just the nature of these services. I’ll have to check out Invidious again, last time I tried it was several years ago and I stopped using it after the main instance shut down. Is it still under active development? I remember its development status being unclear, partially because the language it uses is not super mainstream, but it’s probably changed since then.
I mean, this is a privacy community. The best way to ensure privacy is to be able (in theory) to inspect and modify without restriction the source of everything you are using. Seems natural and unsurprising that people who care about privacy would overwhelmingly prefer FOSS.
Sure, I get the preference. But these people are acting like GrayJay is somehow worse than completely closed-source software that they use every day. It’s obviously not as good as FOSS, but being able to audit the code makes it a lot more useful and safe than your average closed-source software.
If I had said something about ReVanced, which is a FOSS project that only repackages a completely closed-source app (YouTube) then nobody would have said anything negative. But because I mentioned GrayJay instead, I get gatekeeping responses about “proprietary trash”.
The person who called your suggestion “trash” was definitely being needlessly antagonistic, I’m with you there. There’s no reason why you making a helpful suggestion that isn’t 100% perfect deserves responses like that. At least you’re trying to help, they’re just being an ass.
people are acting like GrayJay is somehow worse than completely closed-source software that they use every day
I think it’s more that people think of it in terms of what kind of software do they want to add to their daily habits? Regardless of whatever apps they use already that are privacy nightmares, the goal is probably to try only adding new apps that are great for privacy. It’s not necessarily hypocritical to not have replaced everything yet, and still refuse to install new privacy concerns, even if they are less concerning than existing apps.
I’m one of the programmers of the Jellyfin Roku client. What are some of the things you’re seeing that need polish? We’re always looking for what to work on next to make it better for users.
overlay band name on band tile. I know the name is up top, but I don’t recognize a lot of those tile pics and have to go one by one trying to find the right one.
when I click a band tile, the “Albums” icon is too small. Ideally have album tiles horizontal along the bottom, but at least make the icon bigger and put next to Instant Mix, also a “all songs” next to “albums”.
Instant Mix is confusing, it seems to be shuffle just name it shuffle, and if you hit shuffle from a band details I’d expect it to shuffle just that band, vs “Shuffle All” from main screen, or Shuffle album from album details, etc.
when playing and play/pause is focused, if I could push “up” to focus the progress bar, and then left/right to fast fwd/rewind, or “ok” btn to enter a time to skip to (think, where I left off in this 20 hour long audiobook)
Movies section had some nitpicks too. Like wishing there was a quick bar when you focus a movie, or at least putting “un/mark watched” in the asterisk menu instead of having to drill into it. The rest is probably just me needing to get used to the playback button design, like pushing up I’d expect to see progress bar and some quick functions but instead I see file info which doesn’t seem like a common thing I’d care to look at. Similarly, being able to click the progress bar and skip to a time would be wonderful vs hitting “right” a hundred times on my crappy Roku remote 🙂
overlay band name on band tile. I know the name is up top, but I don’t recognize a lot of those tile pics and have to go one by one trying to find the right one.
There is a setting to always show the titles on the items. On the home view press *, then go to Settings / User Interface / Libraries / General / Grid View Settings / Item Titles. Ensure this setting is set to Always Show. In your music library you will see titles for all your artists, but only if you’re using the Artists (Grid) view - accessed by pressing * while in your library. The titles in the Artists (Presentation) view aren’t honoring this setting. That’s a bug 🐛
Here are new features you’ve identified that I’ll made enhancement tickets for so we can work on them in the future.
also a “all songs” next to “albums”.
Create a new section that shows a selectable list of all the artist’s songs.
when playing and play/pause is focused, if I could push “up” to focus the progress bar, and then left/right to fast fwd/rewind, or “ok” btn to enter a time to skip to (think, where I left off in this 20 hour long audiobook)
This has been on my mind ever since I first wrote the audio player. It’s coming once we get the last of what I call “the foundation” items completed. In a nutshell, we needed the behind the scenes code to be improved before we could jump into adding more “advanced” functions to the audio player.
Movies section had some nitpicks too. Like wishing there was a quick bar when you focus a movie, or at least putting “un/mark watched” in the asterisk menu instead of having to drill into it.
We’ve had other people mention a similar menu in other locations. We’ve started calling it a context menu. We need to think more about how it interacts with existing * menus and all that, but it’s another good idea.
Gonna unpack these in small groups. I’ll start with things I believe the client already does or will do soon.
when I click a band tile, the “Albums” icon is too small. Ideally have album tiles horizontal along the bottom, but at least make the icon bigger and put next to Instant Mix
If the artist has albums, you should be able to press down on the remote to get to the album section without having to use the left icon menu. That menu is really only there to help people like me who have some artists with dozens of albums and I don’t want to have to press up through all of them to get back to the top. It’s a little jump menu.
Instant Mix is confusing, it seems to be shuffle just name it shuffle, and if you hit shuffle from a band details I’d expect it to shuffle just that band, vs “Shuffle All” from main screen, or Shuffle album from album details, etc.
Instant mix is kinda like a radio play option. It generates a playlist based on the band you’re on. To play all the songs by the selected band, press the Play button on their artist page. To shuffle play the artist, currently you can press the play button on their artist page then enable shuffle mode.
The upcoming 2.0 release will provide a new option where you can simply press the play button on your remote and it will shuffle play all the songs by the currently highlighted artist.
The rest is probably just me needing to get used to the playback button design, like pushing up I’d expect to see progress bar and some quick functions but instead I see file info which doesn’t seem like a common thing I’d care to look at. Similarly, being able to click the progress bar and skip to a time would be wonderful vs hitting “right” a hundred times on my crappy Roku remote.
The upcoming 2.0 release replaces the playback info and subtitle select popups with an OSD (on screen display). It has buttons to play/pause, skip by chapters, a chapter list, and the moved playback info and subtitle select popups. It also shows you where you are in playback (but this bar is not selectable due to technical reasons - thanks Roku 👎
devs have to eat too, open source software (when fully free) is sometimes built as a hobby like Jellyfin, or as a portfolio project, or worst case scenario as a bait and switch to paid (sometimes it’s death sentence). Then there are sponsored projects like Vulkan, or others that live off of donations like Mozilla.
I always see this but I used Plex on my iPhone for months before I bought the Plex pass. I did buy the Plex app way back when and maybe that’s why but I’m also using a new Plex account so I don’t see how’d they be tied together.
I’m not sure if it is exactly the same on Iphone. But on Android you can choose to either pay for the app( a one time payment) or have Plex pass. Either way lets you watch on the mobile app.
Jellyfin is generally just as easy to set up for external access. The only thing you really need to worry about is having a dynamic IP. If you have a domain name, then setting up dynamic DNS is quite straightforward.
The only issue I have with people remotely accessing Jellyfin is that you cannot set a total system bandwidth cap. You can set a per stream cap, but that doesn’t help if you have too many people accessing your server at once.
I got a free subdomain from freedns.afraid.org and they have a script you can just add to your crontab to periodically check your IP and to update their DNS listing if your ISP changes it
I certainly agree that it adds an element of complexity. I had never dealt with anything like this before and had to learn it, but it really is a pretty easy thing to setup.
Sure, but neither are self hosted media servers, and if you can afford/run the one you can afford/run the other. Domain names are cheap as dirt and aren’t all that complicated for anyone running a home server.
Huh? You need an open port and a TLS certificate, that’s about it. If you’re CG-NATed you need some form of proxy in front, but that’s not Jellyfin’s fault.
You can’t really compare the two. Kodi is a media player. Jellyfin is a media server and has a bunch of clients to access that sever. There’s even a kodi addon to connect to Jellyfin. It’s called jellycon and I am experimenting with it now.
They work great together. I have jellyfin as my media server / manager /backend, and kodi on my nvidia shield connected to my TV as my main media player / frontend. In kodi, the jellyfin plugin syncs all metadata from jellyfin to kodi’s library, and streams the media from my jellyfin.
Even libraries have options to be shared, if it’s recommending from non shared libraries that’s real fucked up and sounds like a bug and not intentional
It doesn’t seem like a huge stretch. If somebody had a stored collection, and didn’t share the server with anybody, why not point Plex at that folder? There’s even an *arr for it, so it fits right into the usual stack.
No. I’ve spent hours googling my problem and trying every solution that popped up. The server is behind a router, and no amount of port forwarding and firewall permissions is getting past it for whatever reason.
There are a few things plugged in to that router that I’ve never had an issue accessing, but they just need basic Internet access as far as I understand
I had a similar issue in my home where I ran a nighthawk router at the back of my house connected to the ATT router/modem at the front of the house. I let them run as separate networks for a long time, and that prevented anything not connected to the same router as the jellyfin server from seeing it.
I recently got my act together and switched the router to “access point mode” and the house is all 1 network now. The jellyfin server is available on everything in the house as well. After the change, I felt silly I had it the other way for years because it sure helps many of the other wifi objects in my home as well.
Are you on apartment internet by chance? You’ve probably got a double NAT. In which case you’ll need a server, outside the network, that can make a tunnel to your server.
Yeah I’ve been running Jellyfin for a year now and it’s amazing. The plugins automatically find metadata, cover art, and subtitles for me as soon as I upload them to my nas.
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