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Fake4000, in I deleted my google accounts today

Would you be able to let us know the services you used, the replacements, and how did the migration process work?

noughtnaut,
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Seconded.

Without a single word on replacements for email, calendar, phone, etc… this post is pretty much useless to everyone else than the OP.

averyfalken,

I replaced most of that with proton mail and grapheme is which ironically requires a pixel

rottenwheel,

No sandboxed Google Play services yet? Can be challenging without.

lseif,

not sure if this helps, but i believe using a separate android profile/user is the same as sandboxing, although less convenient

mertn,

See above. Plus I use Thunderbird for calendar.

noughtnaut,
@noughtnaut@lemmy.world avatar

Great, thanks!

How does Thunderbird work for you wrt to sharing calendars with others (eg. family) and syncing with eg. an Outlook calendar?

mertn,

I only use Thunderbird calendar for myself so I don’t know. Proton includes a calendar offering in their package but I have not tried it yet.

mertn, (edited )

Proton for email and cloud storage. Graphenos on a pixel 7a for phone. Phone spps from aurora and fdroid. Kagi.com paid search engine too.

Teodomo,

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  • Sproux,

    Protonmail is a free service with an optional subscription for extra features you almost certainly won’t need

    governorkeagan,

    This. I used it for multiple months on the free plan and it worked perfectly.

    Jayb151,

    Does skiff work?

    PropaGandalf, (edited )

    Here are the things I replaced my Google/Microsoft/Meta services with:

    • Tuta(nota): Email
    • Nextcloud: Cloud
    • Typst: LaTeX/Docs alternative
    • LineageOS: Degoogled Android rom
    • Aurora Store: Google Play Store alternative
    • NewPipe, Odysee, Peertube: YouTube alternatives
    • Firefox: Chrome/Chromium alternative
    • SearXNG: Meta search engine
    • Linux/BSD: Windows alternatives
    • Bitwarden: Password manager & 2FA client
    • OpenStreetMaps (OsmAnd): Google maps replacement
    • LibreTranslate, Deepl: Google translate alternative
    • Signal, SimpleX, Briar, Matrix: chat and group organization

    DO NOT FORGET TO MIGRATE ACCOUNTS BEFORE DELETING

    governorkeagan,

    StreetComplete is a great app to help contribute to OpenStreetMaps

    FarLine99, in I deleted my google accounts today
    @FarLine99@lemmy.world avatar

    Six months and they will be restored by you, don’t worry 😃

    averyfalken,

    As someone that does not use a google account I disagree

    slazer2au, in I deleted my google accounts today

    Now, send a gpdr deletion request because Google still has your data.

    cosmicrookie,
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    It’s going to be difficult after deleting the account though

    primal_buddhist,

    Difficult but legally required by them, including establishing your bona fides.

    Saki, (edited ) in I deleted my google accounts today

    about time 😊 that’s not the goal; one of the first basic steps!


    EDIT Sorry I should not have said it like this. Even though that was my honest feelings, said as free speech without any meany connotations, this should have been treated as good news, like someone finally ditched Windows.

    One of the next steps might be to figure out how not to load GA.js GTM.js Google Fonts etc.

    There is a long way to go to de-Google oneself, and unfortunately it’s not easy nor trivial. One subtle example: Google is a broker of Tor Snowflake, which could cause a difficult dilemma.

    Saki, in US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone records – 'usually' without a warrant

    See also:

    Secretive White House Surveillance Program Gives Cops Access to Trillions of US Phone Records

    The French National Police is unlawfully using an Israeli facial recognition software [installed massively and secretly. The Minister ordered an investigation]

    BearOfaTime, in US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone records – 'usually' without a warrant

    Well that’s at least one step removed from what they were doing in the 90’s, when Verizon(?) dta centers had direct connections for feds to snoop.

    I don’t remember the details, just that it was a big deal at the time. And I’m just sure they stopped doing it, right?

    angrytoadnoises, in I deleted my google accounts today
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    I’m building up to doing the same. Already using Protonmail and Kagi. Looking for a less Google-dependent phone to switch over to and then I might pull the plug myself.

    dontblink, (edited ) in Does this exist?? Messaging platform with a panic button from any member.
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    I mean theoretically if you are hosting your own chat server, for example on Matrix, you can easily make all the chats unaccessible from the clients by issuing a command to shutdown your server or simply the chat server service if there’s no content cached locally.

    I think you can do this pretty easily with a raspberry pi by connecting via ssh…

    Just use a shell script that changes the static ip to something else after the command to shutdown the service/wipe out the data (depending on what your goal is) has been issued, or use a vpn or something like that if possible, because anyone issuing the command would need to know your server ip.

    And issuing a command by ssh to a remote server both from smartphone or pc should be as easy that you can actually build a very small app for that, or use some app that creates shortcuts that directly connects and issue custom commands.

    That way you are forced to give people your new ip every time chats become unaccessible/deleted and someone can’t connect back even if wanting to without talking to you, unless you decide you can use the older ip for whatever reason.

    Of course not using your real ip but using some service like a vpn or proxy (or tor?) would be much better here, but i don’t really know how.

    That can give you full power on the chat history and create the said “panic button” for every client involved.

    OhVenus_Baby,

    Wouldn’t chats be stored locally though? So even if the service was shutdown the app and its local contents would remain. Or does the service load chats after connecting to the home server, then your scenario plays correctly. Matrix doesn’t offer ephemeral messaging which would be a stop gap in this case if stored locally. I’m not familiar with Matrix.

    fred,

    There’s no way to prevent someone from retaining data once they have it. The clients would have to voluntarily cooperate.

    cyclohexane,

    Are there matrix clients that do this? Only fetch messages from server when needed and not store locally?

    dontblink,
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    I guess probably, because Matrix is thought for private chatting, i guess someone else might have had this same idea, i think matrix is opensource so there must be some client that does this.

    fred,

    Even if there is, though, that would only affect you and the messages you read. If you sent it to others, they could still do what they wanted with it.

    ithilelda, in SimpleX Chat v5.4 is released

    been selfhosting the smtp relay and using the app for quite a while. If you use it as a private chat for sensitive content, it is PERFECT. Really looking forward to its future development in group chats.

    MigratingtoLemmy, in I deleted my google accounts today

    Exclusively Tutanota/Proton?

    parpol, in I deleted my google accounts today

    Good job. Do Microsoft and Amazon next.

    otp,

    I feel like Amazon would be easier than MS and Google, wouldn’t it?

    NonDollarCurrency,

    Yep, after you realize the majority of the stuff you can buy of Amazon is mass produced trash with zero quality. It was easy to remove.

    LWD, (edited )

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  • otp,

    Yeah. Deleting accounts, easy enough. Boycotting, much less-so.

    averyfalken,

    Microsoft is already done same with google I have like one niche product that I have not found a place outside of lime a singular stellar on Amazon to buy from

    cosmicrookie,
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    You can actually use windows without an account. When installing windows, they will force you to log in. But If you simply use an account that has been blocked it will create a local user instead of an online user. People use no@thankyou.com and it works well

    BeatTakeshi,
    @BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world avatar

    Thanks for the tip!

    extremelyfasttortoise,

    Or just don’t connect the PC to the internet during the installation.

    letsgo,

    Or, when it looks like you no longer have a choice, click Back and you will then be given that choice.

    quantenzitrone,

    but i don’t want to lose my ability to play minecraft

    (yes i know about minetest)

    parpol,

    It was a hard decision for me to not migrate my mojang account, but it felt better after the deadline officially passed.

    Just pirate it and play or host pirated servers. (You already paid for it anyway)

    stinkycheese, in I deleted my google accounts today

    Do you have any guides or tips?

    mypasswordis1234,
    @mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world avatar

    A guide? Sure! Go to the account settings and click “Delete my account”

    Bremmy,

    So helpful

    BolexForSoup, (edited )
    @BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

    This makes as much sense as telling somebody to delete all of the contents on their failing hard drive before transferring them to a new one

    BolexForSoup,
    @BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

    A lot of (all?) email services will allow you to forward your mail from Gmail. My advice would be set that up, have all of them going to a specific folder, and only use your new email moving forward. No harm in allowing some email forwarding while you adjust for the next 6 to 12 months. But that way you can also immediately stop using Gmail itself.

    Gdrive unless it is really baked into your daily life in a complicated way, it’s pretty easy to replace. Lots of great services out there.

    Proton mail allowed me to export my Google Calendar over with just a few clicks. So that was pretty painless. I’m sure there are other calendar services like that. YMMV.

    Google maps is tough lol

    Xttweaponttx,

    Just dug through a lemmy thread of recommended android apps a minute ago and found someone recommending Organic Maps. Pretty damn good compared to some others I’ve seen!

    And of course, popping into streetcomplete here and there and contributing some data helps sharpen the data 🙂

    Salix, (edited )

    Google maps is tough lol

    You could try to see if you’d like Magic Earth. It’s proprietary, but has a good privacy policy, uses Open Street Maps, and has traffic data.

    Though if you’re dependent on Google Maps for reviews and photos of places, then it’s much harder to replace. Though I guess you could just use the website to look that up.

    CowsLookLikeMaps,

    For the google maps, it helps for us to contribute to Open Street Maps through recording with Mapillary or making edits in our community.

    BolexForSoup,
    @BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

    Is the app itself ready for prime time yet? Can I use it daily? I live in a small but major city.

    shortwavesurfer,

    If you can contribute, that would be great. Especially business names and addresses. The best thing I have found to do is get an address from a place via the internet and plug that into gps-coordinates.net and use the first 7 numbers like 31.12345 -82.12345 into osmand when navigating. Then when i arrive i add it to osm so nobody can claim i stole data from another mapping service.

    BolexForSoup,
    @BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

    Sounds good!

    LWD, (edited )

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  • CowsLookLikeMaps,

    There’s several apps to use open street map data. Organic Maps and OSMAnd to name a few. I use a bit of both along with Waze when needed.

    BolexForSoup, (edited )
    @BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

    Thanks! You too LWD!

    odium,

    I’ve tried them and prefer Magic Earth.

    Also, you can contribute to make the maps more complete with Street Complete.

    Lemongrab, (edited )
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    Magic Earth is proprietary FYI. Good privacy policy and good service, only real problem I have is its not FOSS.

    odium, (edited )

    Yeah, that is an issue. I just like its features and UI the most.

    If you want a good comparision of the apps you can go to the open street maps wiki

    GrappleHat,
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    Congratulations! That’s awesome! I’ve been Google-free for 2-3 years, but I haven’t been brave enough to finally delete Gmail. I keep worrying I might need the message history one day?

    Regarding Maps: I use OrganicMaps as my main, & I reflex to Gmaps WV when something isn’t in OrganicMaps. I feel this is a reasonable privacy-friendly compromise.

    RandomlyRight,

    You can transfer your entire Gmail email history to your new service very easily

    GrappleHat,
    @GrappleHat@lemmy.ml avatar

    Oh yeah? I didn’t know that. I’ll have to look into it, thanks!

    BolexForSoup,
    @BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

    I’m not 100% but I am close. Off gdrive, off gcal, off chrome, almost entirely off gmail. I’ll check out the maps!

    danileonis, in SimpleX Chat v5.4 is released
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    💪

    skankhunt42, in I deleted my google accounts today
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    Welcome to the club.

    shortwavesurfer, in SimpleX Chat v5.4 is released

    Its pretty nice. I am using it for a couple groups. It has some screen reader accessibility issues, but the devs are responsive and fix them as i find them.

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