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Gazumi, in UK proposes selfie-based, AI age verification system for porn sites

And so the last steps to privacy are removed.

Xariphon, in UK proposes selfie-based, AI age verification system for porn sites

I hate this timeline.

amio, in UK proposes selfie-based, AI age verification system for porn sites

The UK should stick to things they know, like tea, comedy shows, fox hunting, and unelected MPs.

platypus_plumba,

What about giving money to the royal family because of reasons?

JoeyJoeJoeJr, in Anytype as an alternative to Notion or Obsidian

If you like note taking software: youtu.be/XRpHIa-2XCE

ErKaf, in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!

EhrenBVG. Wie immer.

nutbutter, in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!

In India, they force us to install proprietary apps, which are probably spying on us.

Star,

They don’t, though? Who’s forcing you to install a proprietary 2FA app in India. Unless you’re saying in general.

nutbutter,

My bank, for example, does not let us use any 2FA app we want. They have their own separate app, made for handling 2FA for that specific bank only.

And in general too, yes. Like Arogya Setu. The app we had to install to prove our vaccination status.

BolexForSoup, in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

This is becoming a trend and I really don’t like it.

Y2K38,

What exactly?

BolexForSoup, (edited )
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

Setting restrictions on what 2FA/authenticators we can use. I imagine it’s only a matter of time before Google functionally makes it so you can only use theirs when using their services.

Edit: I assumed it was some of the messages I’ve seen elsewhere, my mistake. I don’t need everybody repeating the same comment. Please read the responses before telling me the exact same thing over and over again guys lol

ErKaf,

They recommend these two. Under the recommendations it even says you can also use different apps…

Y2K38,

At least for what I just posted this isn’t a restriction. Its a recommendation. You can still use any other app. I thought its nice that they recommend the privacy friendly ones.

starlord,

I’ve gone tons of places that say use Google Authenticator (only) and I just summon the QR code and scan with Aegis anyway and it always works fine. I’ve never seen a place that required a certain one.

skarn,

It literally says “Other authenticator apps that support OTP […] can also be used”.

aniki, in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!

andOTP is opensource, backs up locally, remotely, encrypted, or unencrypted. has no back doors, and will work with any DFA i can chuck at it.

its an archived project but still works fine in modern android

github.com/andOTP/andOTP

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

why not 2fas

frogmint,

Why not Aegis?

OfficerBribe,

Are there well known TOTP apps with backdoors?

aniki, (edited )

Anything closed source could have backdoors. Trust no one.

Why does MS Authenticator need GPS permissions?

play.google.com/store/apps/datasafety?id=com.azur…

OfficerBribe,

As per their FAQ:

Permission to access your location

Q: I got a prompt asking me to grant permission for the app to access my location. Why am I seeing this?

A: You will see a prompt from the Authenticator app asking for access to your location if your IT admin has created a policy requiring you to share your GPS location before you are allowed to access specific resources. You’ll need to share your location once every hour to ensure you are still within a country where you are allowed to access the resource.

aniki, (edited )

And? I don’t give a shit what the admins of my network want. It’s DFA – they don’t deserve to know that. Ergo, I don’t use the MS app. They can kiss my ass and fire me if they don’t trust where I am.

OfficerBribe,

It’s a security / compliance policy. There is a very high chance your company has not even enabled it, have not seen anyone using it.

As I see it, you would and could use it only if you force MS Authenticator notification as the only MFA method and it is important in which country MFA prompt originates. Usually it is IP based block / whitelist which checks IP from which login originates which seems like a much more useful info, then you can also allow any MFA method.

You can always deny permissions to apps.

aniki,

You’re not convincing me.

It’s rather sick to an app that’s open source

OfficerBribe,

Your question was why GPS permission is needed, you should now know why.

I am using MS Authenticator and Aegis. Using MS authenticator only for work accounts that have been setup for number matching feature, it is pretty nice to simply enter 2 digits in app than entering 6 digits in client itself any time you need to approve MFA.

Everything else that supports standard TOTP whether work related or personal is on Aegis - it is a much better TOTP app.

aniki,

i dont care

ReversalHatchery,

That depends. More of the popular ones don’t encrypt the secret keys, they can just be read out with root access or even with the use of ADB (the pull command), not even speaking about reading the memory contents while booted to a recovery.
Some even uploads the keys to a cloud service for convenience, and they consider it a feature.

OfficerBribe,

Sounds more like a bad design than purposefully left backdoors. Very few devices are rooted and usually you cannot get root without fully wiping your device in process. As for cloud upload, that indeed is convenient for most regular users. I prefer encrypted offline backup like Aegis does, but you need to think about regular folk if they would loose or wipe their device.

ReversalHatchery,

It’s not bad design, it’s definitely intentional, however I agree that it’s probably not for having backdoors, but for convenience. Average people forget their passwords all the time, and with encryption that level of carelessness is fatal to your data if they have not saved it somewhere, which they probably didn’t do.

Very few devices are rooted and usually you cannot get root without fully wiping your device in process.

I’m pretty sure the system is not flawless. Probably it’s harder to find an exploit in the OS than it was years ago, but I would be surprised if it would be really rare. Also, I think a considerable amount of people use the cheapest phones of no name brands (even if not in your country), or even just tablets that haven’t received updates for years and are slow but “good for use at home”. I have one at home that I rarely use. Bootloader cannot be unlocked, but there’s a couple of exploits available for one off commands and such.

XioR112, (edited )
@XioR112@lemmy.world avatar

Here is active fork.
github.com/helloworld1/FreeOTPPlus

lemann,

This is what I use. Also supports exporting/importing data to and from Gnome Authenticator so you have 2FA on your computer too 👍

aniki,

Sick! I didn’t think to look at the forks but that’s amazing.

QuazarOmega, (edited ) in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!

Incredibly based.
Come to think of it, it’s sad how we’ve got so accustomed to be suggested Google Authenticator and the other big corp data funnel 2FA apps by the services that support it

TheInsane42, (edited ) in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!
@TheInsane42@lemmy.world avatar

According to Wikipedia it’s based on google authenticator. Is it known how much google code is still in there?

LWD, (edited )

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  • badgrandpa,
    @badgrandpa@lemmy.world avatar

    only what I don’t like in FreeOTP is lack of passcode or biometrics

    lemann,

    I use FreeOTP+ and it requires biometrics to open

    Showroom7561, in UK proposes selfie-based, AI age verification system for porn sites

    What’s the porn site going to do when AI determines that a 15 year old is over 18?

    “Judge, I swear the AI said she was 18!”

    noodlejetski, in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!

    that’s a refreshing change from the regular Google Authenticator and Authy mentions.

    totallynotarobot,

    What’s wrong with Authy?

    vaselined,

    Apparently it is hard to export out of authy

    Midnight1938,

    Microsoft authenticator has joined the chat

    lud, (edited )

    Here is their justification:

    In order to maintain security for our users, the Authy application does not allow importing or exporting 2FA account tokens.

    Users who want to import or export their tokens can follow this process:

    1. Login to the desired online account with your existing 2FA token.
    1. Disable 2FA in the app’s site.
    2. Re-enable 2FA again in the app’s site.
    3. Scan the QR code, optionally write the Authentication Key, this time on the desired 2FA App.

    …authy.com/…/1260805179070-Export-or-Import-Token…

    Evotech,

    Nothing

    BeatTakeshi, (edited ) in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!
    @BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world avatar

    I went for another foss one a while ago, works flawlessly authenticatorpro.jmh.me

    CodeGameEat,

    That’s the one i use too, really a nice app

    m_r_butts, in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!

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  • Truck_kun, (edited )

    I’d love to know as well.

    Been using it for a while as the 2FA app used and recommended by Leo Laporte. I’ve had a good experience with it, but if it has any issues, I would love to know.

    Edit: A while being a year or two.

    badgrandpa,
    @badgrandpa@lemmy.world avatar

    i think they got some google trackers in their code

    floridaman, (edited ) in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!

    I self host Bitwarden (Vaultwarden) so I just use the built-in TOTP authenticator in the Bitwarden app. It’s nice to have it all in one place + having auto copy and paste when I log in. And because I self host, it’s all backed up securely and with (as far as I know) no real backdoors.

    ETA: just realized what community this is in. people that replied to me I’m sorry lmao, I’m not a nut about this kinda stuff and I’m by no means recommending this just like using it this way for convenience factor and to keep the likes of google out of my password.

    Undertaker, (edited )

    Yeah it compromises the idea of a second factor. Bitwarden is the worst choice. It’s only one thing: comfortable

    floridaman,

    Fair, although I’ve said in a comment on this account somewhere else, I self host more for convenience sake than anything. I just like having my own password manager, sure it’s not as secure to use it for MFA but it’s better than giving my passwords to Google, LastPass, etc. and then using eg Google Authenticator. Self hosting is more a corporate distrust thing than a privacy thing for me

    Winter8593,

    No, please do not do this. Two factor authentication should be just that: two separate factors of authenticating yourself. Having them combined in one is the same as one factor.

    floridaman,

    Said in the reply to the other comment here, but I don’t really self host for security/privacy sake. And in addition to that comment I’d also like to say that I do use a YubiKey when possible for MFA. I’m not a security nut enough to care about TOTP (which kinda sucks anyway) all too much but for important things I do use physical MFA.

    jard, (edited )
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  • Dislodge3233,

    I have a really long password on Bitwarden like 30+. I use OnlyKey to store this password on a hardware device.

    You mentioned phones. My problem with using another 2FA app is that it’s still on my phone.

    ideonella,

    I do the same thing. And Bitwarden’s 2FA is off my phone. In a complicated world, it’s reasonable to keep 1 password + 2FA as secure as possible. I simply can’t handle the hassle of pulling out my phone for every 2FA login, but still value the protection 2FA + randomly generated passwords provide.

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