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WarmSoda, in Just a little bit

To be fair Janeway wasn’t around at the time, so they didn’t have any examples of genocide to go off of.

Texas_Hangover,

Didn’t Sisko wipe out a whole planet because fuck you Eddington?

mosiacmango,

He just made it uninhabitable by humans. Not exactly the same as wiping it out, but since it forced displacement of a whole planet, it was genocide.

possiblylinux127,

I think genocide requires death

Cypher,

It doesn’t, according to the actual definition.

possiblylinux127,

Good to know

Metz, (edited )

I would love to see the source for that. e.g. Oxford Languages says

the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

frezik, (edited )

The dictionary isn’t a legal framework or international organization. The UN has a convention on genocide:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Item (c) comes the closest to what Sisko did, but he did it in a way that gave them a chance to get out, so it’s not a perfect match. Forcing conditions for removing a group probably wouldn’t qualify under any of these. That said, it can be a factor in Ethnic Cleansing, but the Maquis aren’t really an ethnic group.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

Why not Phlox?

TheGrandNagus,

Phlox, Janeway, Sisko

Damn. Lots of genocide from the good guys.

Transporter_Room_3, in Sorry Ezri
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Daily reminder: Fuck Rick “That Asshole” Berman

The_Picard_Maneuver,
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Stories about him are like a neverending supply of rage. I just recently heard about how he intentionally sabotaged Wil Wheaton’s career to avoid having to pay him more.

frezik,

Best thing about Voyager was that it kept Berman busy on something else so he could only fuck up DS9 a little bit.

gregorum, in Q intentionally leaves his cart in the blind spot behind the most expensive car in the lot
grayman,

Is that why she’s so scrawny? Imposed childhood anorexia?

Spot, in Spread the love
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Telodzrum,

I always thought that uniform jumper over the point collar and tie look was slick af and a really smart way for ENT to show the growth and transition of Starfleet from a near-military Earth-only organization to what we see in TOS and TNG.

billiam0202, (edited ) in Making Lieutenant? That's child's play.

Tom Paris made lieutenant, was busted back to ensign, and then promoted to lieutenant again while Harry stayed an ensign.

Clearly we can infer that off screen, he was an absolutely miserable excuse for Starfleet.

DmMacniel,

But we know the reason: according to Insaneway there always has to be an ensign on the bridge.

Technus, in Philosophical franchises

“Is God real?”

“I dunno but I’ve killed at least half a dozen things pretending to be one.”

Nobody, in I love DS9

And Jadzia is also Sisko’s stepdad.

LongbottomLeaf, (edited ) in Join Starfleet. Fast reaction time not required!

Cadets! This axiom may one day save your life: Phase first, ask questions later.

Is it an impostor? A clone or a hologram? Is it a chair or is it Odo? Too many questions! Now you’re on your way to being composted into Ketracel.

Phase first, cadet! Phase like Tendi scans. Do not hesitate to phase out the answers to your questions. If a visiting Klingon does not remark, “There seem to be a lot of phaser scars on this station” you have not been phasing appropriately!

Do not wait for them to escape into a jefferies tube or Engineering. Phase them!

We have stun settings for a reason, people! Phase each other, play tag. But for Koala’s sake, do not hesitate to fire. Our lives depend upon your itchy trigger fingers.

ElBarto,
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Sir, what if it’s Captain Sisko? Do I still phase first? I don’t really want to have to answer his questions afterwards, I’ve heard what happens.

LongbottomLeaf,

Garak voice: Especially the Sisko.

They’re his orders in the first place.

setsneedtofeed, (edited )
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Stun settings?

negativenull, in One thing the fandoms can agree on.
samus12345, (edited )
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SpookyUnderwear,

The level of lens flair you have provided is insufficient to meet my needs. Moar.

RizzRustbolt, in Protection

Oh… So that’s the Picard Maneuver.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
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Use it at your own risk.

samus12345, in One thing the fandoms can agree on.
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At least with Trek it was an alternate universe, rather than the canon he got his hands on with Wars.

thebardingreen,
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Because of the nature of Trek, it was easy to retcon into an alternate universe. The world building in Star Wars didn’t leave much room for that.

Maybe they can keep ignoring it for another decade, then write it off as a vision from the Dark Side.

whofearsthenight,

Honestly, just move away from it in the timeline. Legends canon has a a few thousand years to work with, and one of the funny bits about Star Wars is that even though the Old Republic and New Republic exist extremely far apart, the vibes and aesthetics are all fairly similar. And although I would say that Andor is proof you can do cool things with a Star Wars background, at its heart SW is a conceptually fairly simple. Young person with the help of wise wizard and plucky band must master his powers to face down the evil tyrant. Now, is that the OG trilogy? Prequels? Sequels? LoTR? The Matrix?

JJ at least got this part, the problem is you have to add enough flavor to the story that it doesn’t feel like a complete rehash, which JJ failed at with TFA even if that was the closest the sequels got. No idea how Rian made it out of the pitch meeting, pretty clear he had no interest in making a SW movie, and basically just went “never mind all that” to TFA. And then JJ has to land the plane that was basically rebuilt into a railcar midair, and it went about as well as could be expected.

samus12345, (edited )
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Yeah, it’s kinda funny how the supposedly more fantastical Star Wars has no really out there things like time travel or alternate universes.

It wasn’t a retcon, though, it was conceived from the beginning as an alternate universe.

hypelightfly,

Disney already wrote off 90% of what was canon at the time and turned it into "legends" when they bought rights. They can do it again.

EmergMemeHologram,

…Somehow, Abrams has returned…

DragonTypeWyvern,

Unless…

Semi-Hemi-Demigod, in Why does that man have a funny U shape on his head?
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Spinning is so much cooler than not spinning

ummthatguy,
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It is a good trick.

Psaldorn,
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Are you an angel?

z500,
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I’m the angel, I want it to spin!

teft,
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He is a prophet who shitposts in the celestial temple, aka /c/risa.

ummthatguy,
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EmpathicVagrant,

What will I call you, if not something to properly show the affection the community has for what you bring us?

ummthatguy, in The memes, they got me
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negativenull,

There once was a lady from Venus
Who’s body was shaped like a penis
When First Contact was made
The crew were dismayed
When she told them her species and genus

Joejoebinkz1,

You’re a madman Ms. Wongburger, that ship will never fly!

MrShankles, (edited )
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The_Picard_Maneuver, in Q intentionally leaves his cart in the blind spot behind the most expensive car in the lot
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clutchmattic,

Made of transparent aluminum, mind you

2deck,
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The cart returns itself, of course.

ummthatguy, in That's what I thought
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Stamets,
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Also why Vulcans seem to make the most boneheaded decisions half the time. A species of endless logic and not a shred of common sense.

Ser_Salty,

Bones-posting

dejected_warp_core,

This is most evident in the TOS episode “The Galileo Seven”. It’s a horrible scenario: Spock is in command of a marooned crew on a hostile planet. He fails to take both a scared crew and an aggressive native species of spear throwing giants, into consideration. He makes one logical survival choice after another, failing to address everyone’s irrationality at every turn, which ultimately costs two lives. Nothing more than the crew’s faith in the chain of command (and perhaps faith in Scotty’s engineering skills) holds this disasterpiece together.

And Vulcans in Trek kind of just get worse from there. You’d think they’d eventually learn to take “irrational actors” into account with assessing situations, but they don’t. While that seems far-fetched, our economists here in 21st century Earth don’t either.

usualsuspect191,

How’d this manage to use both it’s and its for same thing?

ummthatguy,
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Idunno, just copy pasted from IMDB. And I’m terrible at proof reading.

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